Can someone explain to me exactly why 'no deal' has been removed for good?

[Rich]

I thought yesterday's motion was to remove no deal as a possibility from the March 29th deadline?

I would like to remain as I think it would be far better for my generation of people, but I can't help but feel the threat of no deal was our biggest bargaining chip to use against the EU. Now that is removed it's May/Corbyn/anyone else's deal Vs Remain.

Bloody stupid, if you ask me. But perhaps I've misunderstood.

[IUFG]

I thought yesterday's motion was to remove no deal as a possibility from the March 29th deadline?

I would like to remain as I think it would be far better for my generation of people, but I can't help but feel the threat of no deal was our biggest bargaining chip to use against the EU. Now that is removed it's May/Corbyn/anyone else's deal Vs Remain.

Bloody stupid, if you ask me. But perhaps I've misunderstood.

Because politicians know better than the voting public, r

[Rich]

Because politicians know better than the voting public, r

Well I suppose that is true given that most of the public are poorly educated beasts. But surely, surely any attempt to get a better deal from the EU would have been helped by us threatening to walk away with no deal.

The EU have played a blinder here and refused to blink. Now anyone trying to obtain a better deal is just hoping for goodwill from the EU.

[PSRB]

I thought yesterday's motion was to remove no deal as a possibility from the March 29th deadline?

I would like to remain as I think it would be far better for my generation of people, but I can't help but feel the threat of no deal was our biggest bargaining chip to use against the EU. Now that is removed it's May/Corbyn/anyone else's deal Vs Remain.

Bloody stupid, if you ask me. But perhaps I've misunderstood.

Nope, not understood at all. It's bloody ridiculous, when negotiating anything you always have to have the option to walk away. It's as if they're all ****ing stupid

[Ash]

I thought yesterday's motion was to remove no deal as a possibility from the March 29th deadline?

I would like to remain as I think it would be far better for my generation of people, but I can't help but feel the threat of no deal was our biggest bargaining chip to use against the EU. Now that is removed it's May/Corbyn/anyone else's deal Vs Remain.

Bloody stupid, if you ask me. But perhaps I've misunderstood.

Yes, it's a terrible negotiating stance, and they're doing it because they have never had any intention of implementing the Leave decision.

[Rich]

Yes, it's a terrible negotiating stance, and they're doing it because they have never had any intention of implementing the Leave decision.

Someone was on TV last night calling it ‘The Great Brexit Stitch Up’ and maintained that it’s been a carefully coordinated plan to stop Brexit from the start.

[Yesterday Once More]

Someone was on TV last night calling it ‘The Great Brexit Stitch Up’ and maintained that it’s been a carefully coordinated plan to stop Brexit from the start.

No ****, Sherlock! May was the ideal "patsy" - I genuinely don't think she is conspiritorial, or necessarily much of a "remainer", though unlike many of her colleagues such as Gove she prioritises controlling borders to opening up world trade opportunities. But she is a dreadfully weak leader with no vision, and easily manipulated by civil servants, the EU and other assorted establishment types who want to remain. She is a cautious Carol, when we needed someone with conviction.

She is now so weak that she has failed to sack Cabinet members who disobeyed a three-line whip. Brexiteers such as Boris, David Davis, Raab and McVey were honourable enough to resign the moment they could not support Government policy. Rudd, Guake, Clark etc have been given a free pass.

So now the gloves have to come off. No more Queensbury Rules. I heard that sanctimonious toad James O'Brien on LBC just now calling Nigel Farage out for "treason" because he has invited EU member states to veto the inevitable UK application for an extension (it just needs one). Never mind that Blair has been advising the EU since we triggered Article 50 on how to negotiate with the UK. We should welcome any member state that is prepared to break ranks from the corrupt cartel and say "we see no reason for our citizens to grant such an extension, and as the UK's citizens voted to leave , we should let them".

[Herbert Augustus Chapman]

Yes, it's a terrible negotiating stance, and they're doing it because they have never had any intention of implementing the Leave decision.

So Ash - you're clearly a politically astute chap so 'splain me this. Why does this speaker bloke, practically a convicted rapist by all accounts, insist on bellowing out the result of a vote we have all managed to hear perfectly well just two seconds before?

Strikes me as a bit of a garrulous arse.

[Rich]

So Ash - you're clearly a politically astute chap so 'splain me this. Why does this speaker bloke, practically a convicted rapist by all accounts, insist on bellowing out the result of a vote we have all managed to hear perfectly well just two seconds before?

Strikes me as a bit of a garrulous arse.

The Ayes have it! The Ayes have it!

[Rich]

So Ash - you're clearly a politically astute chap so 'splain me this. Why does this speaker bloke, practically a convicted rapist by all accounts, insist on bellowing out the result of a vote we have all managed to hear perfectly well just two seconds before?

Strikes me as a bit of a garrulous arse.

Would you rather a face with no ayes or noes?

[Herbert Augustus Chapman]

We should welcome any member state that is prepared to break ranks from the corrupt cartel and say "we see no reason for our citizens to grant such an extension, and as the UK's citizens voted to leave , we should let them".

What do you mean by welcome them? Ask 'em round for a beer?

[Herbert Augustus Chapman]

The Ayes have it! The Ayes have it!

Lock up!!
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[Yesterday Once More]

If the Italians prevented this sabotage, I'd buy them all a prosecco.

[Rich]

If the Italians prevented this sabotage, I'd buy them all a prosecco.

You mean if they block an extension? Don’t all the EU puppets have to do what Tusk tells them to?

[Pat Vegas]

So Ash - you're clearly a politically astute chap so 'splain me this. Why does this speaker bloke, practically a convicted rapist by all accounts, insist on bellowing out the result of a vote we have all managed to hear perfectly well just two seconds before?

Strikes me as a bit of a garrulous arse.

it's to make us look more ridiculous when it is shown on news outlets around the world

[Herbert Augustus Chapman]

If the Italians prevented this sabotage, I'd buy them all a prosecco.

Italian birds grow it out mate ...fact!

[Herbert Augustus Chapman]

it's to make us look more ridiculous when it is shown on news outlets around the world

In addition to all the infantile hooting, hollering and general baboonery?

[Pat Vegas]

In addition to all the infantile hooting, hollering and general baboonery?

:nod: he looks like a reject from Eggheads or QI or something.

[Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult]

Someone was on TV last night calling it ‘The Great Brexit Stitch Up’ and maintained that it’s been a carefully coordinated plan to stop Brexit from the start.

If you really think the last 3 years of unprecedented political cluster****, up to an including last night, has been a carefully co-ordinated conspiracy then you're more paranoid than the average Corbynista in a synagogue.

May introduced a bill. A Tory backbencher added an ammendement, which May didn't want. So Spellmen tried to withdraw it. The Speaker said no, Cooper moved it and the ammendment was passed by 4 on a free vote despite the govt voting against.

Thus May now tried to vote down the ammended bill, despite her having introduced it, remember? So there's now not a free vote but a 3-line whip. And she loses by 40, 10x as much as when she just had a free vote.

I'm more inclined to believe that Mossad was behind 9/11 than anyone in the UK government or Parliament knows what the fück they're doing.

[Herbert Augustus Chapman]

I'm more inclined to believe that Mossad was behind 9/11 than anyone in the UK government or Parliament knows what the fück they're doing.

It was Mossad gan. The 'falling man' can clearly be heard shouting "some big nosed **** pushed me!" - probably Monty

[Alberto Balsam Rodriguez]

Yes, it's a terrible negotiating stance, and they're doing it because they have never had any intention of implementing the Leave decision.


Taking no deal off the table has made no difference as we will still be in a no deal situation in 2 weeks time.

What it has done is made May's non-deal more likely but she may not be able to bring that vote back in this session of parliament without changes to the motion. It is unlikely that the EU will grant an extension without a plan and it is quite clear that there isn't much of a plan.

[barrybueno]

If the Italians prevented this sabotage, I'd buy them all a prosecco.

I think they've all got scooters already YOM

[Ash]

So Ash - you're clearly a politically astute chap so 'splain me this. Why does this speaker bloke, practically a convicted rapist by all accounts, insist on bellowing out the result of a vote we have all managed to hear perfectly well just two seconds before?

Strikes me as a bit of a garrulous arse.

I've no idea, Herbs. Apparently monstrous pomposity is a prime component of parliamentary procedure.