Bland.

[Sir C]

It’s like watching a glass of water.

[7sisters]

It’s like watching a glass of water.

Give it up C. Arsene’s gone and struggling at coming to terms that several months on, he’s only been offered the MK Dons gig.

[Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult]

It’s like watching a glass of water.

An own goal and two set pieces.

But, and I'm only being generous cos Ozil started:

1. We did get so many corners we were bound to score at least one eventually.

2. Ozil did about half a dozen flicks that, while none worked, were sexy. I don't mind us giving the ball away like that cos if it had worked it would have led to a sexy goal.

[AFC East]

Give it up C. Arsene’s gone and struggling at coming to terms that several months on, he’s only been offered the MK Dons gig.

Did you enjoy watching that game?

[redgunamo]

Odd thing to say after we just won a match 3-0, I'd have thought. Would a 3-0 defeat have invigorated you more?



It’s like watching a glass of water.

[redgunamo]

Again, that seems an odd question. But that's where we are at nowadays, I suppose ..



Did you enjoy watching that game?

[Pokster]

Did you enjoy watching that game?

Did you enjoy the game against the Swedish aprt timers in the same round last year?

[Tony C]

At this point I honestly don’t know if you guys are serious or trolling.

There wasn’t anything remotely enjoyable about losing to Forest, Bayern 10-2, Palace 3-0 with Flamini who supposedly wasn’t good enough for us or even drawing 1-1 vs 10 man mamagerless Atletico. Never mind all of the horrific defeats over the past few years.

Don’t get this Wengerball stuff...we haven’t seen that since the Invincible season and we’re talking about someone who made close to £200m off of us down the years...you shouldn’t feel sorry for him. He was well looked after and has no interest of ever getting back into football.

And I’m unsure why people have turned on Unai.

We all knew and accepted this season was about him and the players working together and we wouldn’t see real changes until Year 2 or 3 of his time here.

Not sure why this has changed especially given out injuries and the clear incompetency of some of our players.

Actually think people owe him an apology.

Ozil is fit and duly started last night. Even got the captain’s armband towards the end.

There is clearly no rift between the two and Unai has simply been covering for the lad until he was fully fit.

[Luis Anaconda]

Did you enjoy the game against the Swedish aprt timers in the same round last year?

Very interesting game of football that and we were, despite your protestations, never even close to going out. Over 180 minutes they were only within one goal with us for about 30, for the majority of the tie we were two clear :vsign:

I also enjoyed last night, though. I love it when our centre backs score :oldschool:

[Herbert Augustus Chapman]

bitch whining for all that interminable tippy tappy Wengerball bóllocks. The object of any sporting contest is the win the ****.

[Sir C]

Did you enjoy the game against the Swedish aprt timers in the same round last year?

Explain to me how that's relevant. ]

Last year is, well, in the past. There has been a lot of change since last year. Why are you so obsessed with last year?

[Sir C]

At this point I honestly don’t know if you guys are serious or trolling.

There wasn’t anything remotely enjoyable about losing to Forest, Bayern 10-2, Palace 3-0 with Flamini who supposedly wasn’t good enough for us or even drawing 1-1 vs 10 man mamagerless Atletico. Never mind all of the horrific defeats over the past few years.

Don’t get this Wengerball stuff...we haven’t seen that since the Invincible season and we’re talking about someone who made close to £200m off of us down the years...you shouldn’t feel sorry for him. He was well looked after and has no interest of ever getting back into football.

And I’m unsure why people have turned on Unai.

We all knew and accepted this season was about him and the players working together and we wouldn’t see real changes until Year 2 or 3 of his time here.

Not sure why this has changed especially given out injuries and the clear incompetency of some of our players.

Actually think people owe him an apology.

Ozil is fit and duly started last night. Even got the captain’s armband towards the end.

There is clearly no rift between the two and Unai has simply been covering for the lad until he was fully fit.

Did I mention last year or Wenger? You oddballs are obsessed with the past. I spoke only of last night.

It was dull and not pleasant to watch. You can argue with that statement, and I'll debate you, but your response is a rant against our old manager who has no control over what happens now. Odd.

[SWv2]

An own goal and two set pieces.

But, and I'm only being generous cos Ozil started:

1. We did get so many corners we were bound to score at least one eventually.

2. Ozil did about half a dozen flicks that, while none worked, were sexy. I don't mind us giving the ball away like that cos if it had worked it would have led to a sexy goal.

Quite incredible statement really given that such flicks are often used as the primary reason many use to criticise Ramsey.

It really is a funny old game.

The only issue of any importance last evening was to win the tie, the performance or quality of football a complete irrelevance. We are through and we await the draw.

[redgunamo]

Formerly known as "context", "precedent" :-\




Explain to me how that's relevant. ]

Last year is, well, in the past. There has been a lot of change since last year. Why are you so obsessed with last year?

[Sir C]

Formerly known as "context", "precedent" :-\

"Things were shít in the past so one mustn't mention that things are shít now"? That sort of "context"?

[Viva Prat Vegas]

Despite the stadium sounding like a busy shopping mall, I agree with LA (to add to your centre-backs scoring cloud9...defenders clearing off the line :cloud9: )
An intriguing match for the connoisseur in which the ref should have blown for time 5-10 minutes earlier

[Sir C]

Quite incredible statement really given that such flicks are often used as the primary reason many use to criticise Ramsey.

It really is a funny old game.

The only issue of any importance last evening was to win the tie, the performance or quality of football a complete irrelevance. We are through and we await the draw.

I've never heard (seen) ganpati slate Ramsey for his flickery, have you?

[Viva Prat Vegas]

Paddy McGinty might be confusing him with WES

[Pokster]

Explain to me how that's relevant. ]

Last year is, well, in the past. There has been a lot of change since last year. Why are you so obsessed with last year?

To start with, my question was aimed at AFC E who is obviously trying to make a point thta under UE we play bland football, my point was that we also played bland football ast year.

I think the future is positive under UE, he can get rid fo some of the players who don't seem to buy into his ideas and can get in players that will suit his style of football. This will take time as we have a lot of chaf to get rid of

[redgunamo]

No, it's about consistency.





"Things were shít in the past so one mustn't mention that things are shít now"? That sort of "context"?

[SWv2]

I've never heard (seen) ganpati slate Ramsey for his flickery, have you?

"as the primary reason many use"

Many, not Ganpati.

Which is why I did not criticise the fella, merely pointed out the game to be a funny old game in the context of how one person can be driven demented by an action that another appreciates.

Don't try and pick a fight with me you Dutch fanny.

[Luis Anaconda]

Despite the stadium sounding like a busy shopping mall, I agree with LA (to add to your centre-backs scoring cloud9...defenders clearing off the line :cloud9: )
An intriguing match for the connoisseur in which the ref should have blown for time 5-10 minutes earlier

:clap: Yes - always nice. I'm sure Kenny Sansom cleared the ball off the line at least once I match in his prime

[redgunamo]

:nod: Chavley always enjoyed a goal-line clearance too.


:clap: Yes - always nice. I'm sure Kenny Sansom cleared the ball off the line at least once I match in his prime

[Sir C]

"as the primary reason many use"

Many, not Ganpati.

Which is why I did not criticise the fella, merely pointed out the game to be a funny old game in the context of how one person can be driven demented by an action that another appreciates.

Don't try and pick a fight with me you Dutch fanny.

You said it was an incredible thing for him to say. I merely posited that it would only be an incredible thing to say if he had said the opposite about someone else.

[Herbert Augustus Chapman]

Did I mention last year or Wenger? You oddballs are obsessed with the past. I spoke only of last night.

It was dull and not pleasant to watch. You can argue with that statement, and I'll debate you, but your response is a rant against our old manager who has no control over what happens now. Odd.

Oh be quiet you disingenuous old goat. You've been sniping at Unai since the day he arrived. We progressed to the last 16 of a major tourney and all you can do is grizzle because none of the goals were preceded by a hundred sideways passes.

[Luis Anaconda]

:nod: Chavley always enjoyed a goal-line clearance too.

and a four-foot over-the-line clearance once as well

[Burney]

It’s like watching a glass of water.

Caviar and sausages, innit.

Mind you, these aren’t even decent sausages. These are those frozen, skinless Richmond abominations that are weirdly pink and don’t really taste of meat.

[Burney]

Oh be quiet you disingenuous old goat. You've been sniping at Unai since the day he arrived. We progressed to the last 16 of a major tourney and all you can do is grizzle because none of the goals were preceded by a hundred sideways passes.

‘Major tourney’ :hehe:

Bate Borisov :hehe:

[redgunamo]

Oh, it's not about Unai, I think; nothing really to do with him at all, per se. It's all about the WOB.



Oh be quiet you disingenuous old goat. You've been sniping at Unai since the day he arrived. We progressed to the last 16 of a major tourney and all you can do is grizzle because none of the goals were preceded by a hundred sideways passes.

[Sir C]

Oh be quiet you disingenuous old goat. You've been sniping at Unai since the day he arrived. We progressed to the last 16 of a major tourney and all you can do is grizzle because none of the goals were preceded by a hundred sideways passes.

Excuse me, I fought through two world wars to protect freedom of expression and I consider myself free to express my view without be silenced by you, you jobbie-tugging bully.

If we had had the internet in the early '90s you would have seen me expressing a similar view about George Graham and his 'style' of football. So suck it up, ponceboy. You will never silence me.

[Sir C]

Caviar and sausages, innit.

Mind you, these aren’t even decent sausages. These are those frozen, skinless Richmond abominations that are weirdly pink and don’t really taste of meat.

Cor, now I fancy a sausage. Even a Richmond one. Nestling there on a plate like a kitten in bed with its siblings, the two fried eggs, the 6 rashers of streaky bacon and the black pudding.

[Pat Vegas]

Cor, now I fancy a sausage. Even a Richmond one. Nestling there on a plate like a kitten in bed with its siblings, the two fried eggs, the 6 rashers of streaky bacon and the black pudding.

I had some of those Heck chicken sausages. They are quite nice but hard to tell when they are cooked.

[redgunamo]

Right, but they actually cost the same as caviar. Unpleasant, of course, but we just have to grin and bear it, for now.



Caviar and sausages, innit.

Mind you, these aren’t even decent sausages. These are those frozen, skinless Richmond abominations that are weirdly pink and don’t really taste of meat.

[Burney]

I had some of those Heck chicken sausages. They are quite nice but hard to tell when they are cooked.

What are you, Jewish?

Chicken sausages, ffs!

[Burney]

Cor, now I fancy a sausage. Even a Richmond one. Nestling there on a plate like a kitten in bed with its siblings, the two fried eggs, the 6 rashers of streaky bacon and the black pudding.

What of the fried slice, hmm? After all, all that meat will have produced some wonderfully flavoured fat. Criminal to waste it.

[Sir C]

What of the fried slice, hmm? After all, all that meat will have produced some wonderfully flavoured fat. Criminal to waste it.

I had kind of assumed that was a given, tbh.

[SWv2]

I had some of those Heck chicken sausages. They are quite nice but hard to tell when they are cooked.

You sick ****.

[Burney]

You sick ****.

:nod: We are as one in this matter, sw.

[PSRB]

It’s like watching a glass of water.

I do rather like Emery's touchline antics.

[SWv2]

:nod: We are as one in this matter, sw.

Our shared disgust must be a result of your inherent Irishness.

Tiocfaidh ar lá B.

[WES]

I do rather like Emery's touchline antics.

I love watching him on the sidelines almost as much as I love watching Gwendoozi play football.

19 isn't he? Lord but that lad is going to be a cracking player.

I thoroughly enjoyed it. We played well although we lacked a leetle bit the cutting edge around their box.

[Herbert Augustus Chapman]

What of the fried slice, hmm? After all, all that meat will have produced some wonderfully flavoured fat. Criminal to waste it.

sidies then fry it in the leftover dirty bacon fat.

[Herbert Augustus Chapman]

Major tourney is basically anything that isn't the Emirates Cup.

I final with Chelsea would be tasty I reckon.

[Sir C]

sidies then fry it in the leftover dirty bacon fat.

That would be that, you know, Anchor stuff would it?

[Ash]

No, it's about consistency.

:nod: And Arsene was always very clear about the importance of consistency. For example, how frequently your parchimetro turns up for training.

Just imagine what would happen in court. "Quoting the case of Jarndice v Jarndice is all very well, m'lud, but it is pure whataboutery and should be struck from the record."

As for the match, I enjoyed it because we won 3-0 and we got to see dear old Mezut again.

[Herbert Augustus Chapman]

Anchor, Lurpak, Country Life ... anything that isn't some kind of ridiclules fake made from mung bean oil. In addition to eating it, I need to be able to lube yer mum's arse'ole with it Brando stylee.

[redgunamo]

Well said, A. Good post.



:nod: And Arsene was always very clear about the importance of consistency. For example, how frequently your parchimetro turns up for training.

Just imagine what would happen in court. "Quoting the case of Jarndice v Jarndice is all very well, m'lud, but it is pure whataboutery and should be struck from the record."

As for the match, I enjoyed it because we won 3-0 and we got to see dear old Mezut again.

[Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult]

"as the primary reason many use"

Many, not Ganpati.

Which is why I did not criticise the fella, merely pointed out the game to be a funny old game in the context of how one person can be driven demented by an action that another appreciates.

Don't try and pick a fight with me you Dutch fanny.

Thank you.

I have been consistant on this. Our owner is never gonna give us enough money to compete. So I'd rather play beautiful football even if we lose more games, or we get hamered by 5 or more goals a few times a season.

It gave me pleasure seeing Rambo back heel it into the net after starting that move this year as much as it did when Santi, Olly and Jack walked the ball into the net with one touch flicks.

I'd have a goalie, 2 CHs and a striker. And the rest of the team, full backs and all, should be players like Santi. Like Ozil, Rambo, Cesc, Bobby P, DB10.

If we can have the same-ish number of points but the choice is bland football but no hammerings vs sexy goals but getting stuffed by the big boys, I want the latter.

[Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult]

Oh be quiet you disingenuous old goat. You've been sniping at Unai since the day he arrived. We progressed to the last 16 of a major tourney and all you can do is grizzle because none of the goals were preceded by a hundred sideways passes.

It's flicks, Herb. I want flicks. Don't care if they're forward, backwards or sideways. I want one touch flicks preferably using a part of the boot other than the instep. I likes that, I do.

[Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult]

Excuse me, I fought through two world wars to protect freedom of expression and I consider myself free to express my view without be silenced by you, you jobbie-tugging bully.

If we had had the internet in the early '90s you would have seen me expressing a similar view about George Graham and his 'style' of football. So suck it up, ponceboy. You will never silence me.

Does depend how you define early '90s, C.The football we played in '91 was as good as I'd ever seen. And the end of '92, when Merse and Limpar swapped wings and Campbell played up front with Wrighty was just sublime.

Course, GG being the proto-Emery decided he didn't like this and swiftly dropped everyone creative and got Hillier, Selley and Morrow into MF.

Did win us the CWC, though. After being the first team ever to win us the two domestic cups in the same season.

But yes, after we'd seen was was possible 1990-2, it was a pity. But we had the back 5 and Wrighty to keep us sane.

[Sir C]

Does depend how you define early '90s, C.The football we played in '91 was as good as I'd ever seen. And the end of '92, when Merse and Limpar swapped wings and Campbell played up front with Wrighty was just sublime.

Course, GG being the proto-Emery decided he didn't like this and swiftly dropped everyone creative and got Hillier, Selley and Morrow into MF.

Did win us the CWC, though. After being the first team ever to win us the two domestic cups in the same season.

But yes, after we'd seen was was possible 1990-2, it was a pity. But we had the back 5 and Wrighty to keep us sane.

After we got gubbed in the European Cup that time he shít himself and started sending teams out to kick people.

Dixon, Adams, Winterburn and Bould tasked with physically assaulting the opposition was digusting. We were no better than Stoke under Pulis and it made me ashamed.

It took Ferguson's Manyoo to get me interested in the game again. I'll never forgive George for that.

[Pokster]

After we got gubbed in the European Cup that time he shít himself and started sending teams out to kick people.

Dixon, Adams, Winterburn and Bould tasked with physically assaulting the opposition was digusting. We were no better than Stoke under Pulis and it made me ashamed.

It took Ferguson's Manyoo to get me interested in the game again. I'll never forgive George for that.

When you say gubbed, you mean lost in Extra time to Benfica?

[Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult]

After we got gubbed in the European Cup that time he shít himself and started sending teams out to kick people.

Dixon, Adams, Winterburn and Bould tasked with physically assaulting the opposition was digusting. We were no better than Stoke under Pulis and it made me ashamed.

It took Ferguson's Manyoo to get me interested in the game again. I'll never forgive George for that.

I sort of see what you mean, but Benfica did us at the start of the'91-2 season.

At the end of it, he switched Merse and Limpar's flanks so they'd cut inside onto their stronger foot and had Campbell and Wrighty in peak form.

Didn't we bear Villa 5-0 and Weds 7-1 with some sublime footie?

He then did a Dick next season, decided he didn't want any creativity and drove out anyone with any creative ability.

Well, at least that's how I remember it. I'm sure LA will be along in a bit to point out every single sentence I've written is factually inaccurate. But that was my take.

Hence the next season, we won both cups playing defensive football.

[Sir C]

I sort of see what you mean, but Benfica did us at the start of the'91-2 season.

At the end of it, he switched Merse and Limpar's flanks so they'd cut inside onto their stronger foot and had Campbell and Wrighty in peak form.

Didn't we bear Villa 5-0 and Weds 7-1 with some sublime footie?

He then did a Dick next season, decided he didn't want any creativity and drove out anyone with any creative ability.

Well, at least that's how I remember it. I'm sure LA will be along in a bit to point out every single sentence I've written is factually inaccurate. But that was my take.

Hence the next season, we won both cups playing defensive football.

Listen mate, when you get to my age it's a miracle that I remembered it was George Graham I was talking about, never mind precise details.

He did turn us into a team that played boring football and kicked people, and that is shameful.

[Pokster]

I sort of see what you mean, but Benfica did us at the start of the'91-2 season.

At the end of it, he switched Merse and Limpar's flanks so they'd cut inside onto their stronger foot and had Campbell and Wrighty in peak form.

Didn't we bear Villa 5-0 and Weds 7-1 with some sublime footie?

He then did a Dick next season, decided he didn't want any creativity and drove out anyone with any creative ability.

Well, at least that's how I remember it. I'm sure LA will be along in a bit to point out every single sentence I've written is factually inaccurate. But that was my take.

Hence the next season, we won both cups playing defensive football.

I remember the SW 7-1, 6 goals in the last 20 minutes when KC and IWWW were up front, next game he dropped KC and put Smith back up top

[Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult]

Listen mate, when you get to my age it's a miracle that I remembered it was George Graham I was talking about, never mind precise details.

He did turn us into a team that played boring football and kicked people, and that is shameful.

Oh, I totally agree. It's just I loved that front 4 at the end of '92, that's why I remember it so much.

I thought we'd have the league in the bag the next year, playing Wengerball, but instead we just ground out 1-0s in the cups. So disheartening.

[AFC East]

To start with, my question was aimed at AFC E who is obviously trying to make a point thta under UE we play bland football, my point was that we also played bland football ast year.

I think the future is positive under UE, he can get rid fo some of the players who don't seem to buy into his ideas and can get in players that will suit his style of football. This will take time as we have a lot of chaf to get rid of

The title of the thread was making a point that I happen to agree with. I see no reason for any optimism, either in terms of results or in terms of the football becoming fun to watch.

Of course, the man needs time, right now it's dull, uninspiring and lacking any kind of strategy that my limited mind can discern. I saw more of a pattern in our first 10 games under the man than I do in recent weeks.

[Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult]

The title of the thread was making a point that I happen to agree with. I see no reason for any optimism, either in terms of results or in terms of the football becoming fun to watch.

Of course, the man needs time, right now it's dull, uninspiring and lacking any kind of strategy that my limited mind can discern. I saw more of a pattern in our first 10 games under the man than I do in recent weeks.

Bingo.

And that's when we had Rambo and Ozil in the team and the front 5 were being allowed to play wengerball while he tried to sort out the defence.

We were scoring sexy goals but still Mustafying it up at the back. So what does Dick do? Drop the creatives.

Just like, as you and SC say, when GG played beautiful footie at the end of '92, he dropped Kevin Campbell and forced out Limpar, which drove Merse to hit the bottle and the bookies, thus leaving only IWWW as any creative up front.

[IUFG]

It’s like watching a glass of water.

bland last night?


cue "it was only Bournemouth"...

[WES]

bland last night?


cue "it was only Bournemouth"...

cue 'it's all about you being right and others wrong you need some help blah, blah, blah...'

All of which is a cover for 'my prior posts now make me look a right tw@t and offence is the best form of defence etc'

[AFC East]

bland last night?


cue "it was only Bournemouth"...

Much better performance, funny when you play some technically gifted players what can happen.

Expect them to be yanked for Saturday.

[Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult]

Much better performance, funny when you play some technically gifted players what can happen.

Expect them to be yanked for Saturday.

My thoughts exactly.