I am sure AWIMB will want to join with me in celebrating the the birth

[Herbert Augustus Chapman]

of Shamima Begum's son and rejoice that mother and baby are doing well. Now we must fight the forces of reactionary cynicism attempting to prevent her returning to her home country.

I am looking forward to hearing again how decapitated heads in dustbins are fine - as long as they came from infidels - and how the Koran is quite unequivocal about the subject of woman being nothing more than cock sockets for the brave young warriors of ISIS.

[Tony C]

Tell you what though...ISIS got the marriage game by the balls.

Just fill in an application form :-|

[Burney]

of Shamima Begum's son and rejoice that mother and baby are doing well. Now we must fight the forces of reactionary cynicism attempting to prevent her returning to her home country.

I am looking forward to hearing again how decapitated heads in dustbins are fine - as long as they came from infidels - and how the Koran is quite unequivocal about the subject of woman being nothing more than cock sockets for the brave young warriors of ISIS.

"But she was gwoomed!" cry the hand-wringing apologists for this murderous little cùnt.

No she wasn't. She was raised by muslim extremists, educated by muslim extremists and guess what? She grew up to become a muslim extremist.

All this shít about 'grooming' is just an attempt to blame some external bogeyman rather than face up to the fact that we are breeding these animals in this country and doing fùck all to stop it. She is not some nice, western girl who's been led astray, she is the logical conclusion of importing and tolerating thousands of salafist terrorist sympathisers under the guise of 'compassion'. In that sense at least, she is our fault and our responsibility.

[WES]

"But she was gwoomed!" cry the hand-wringing apologists for this murderous little cùnt.

No she wasn't. She was raised by muslim extremists, educated by muslim extremists and guess what? She grew up to become a muslim extremist.

All this shít about 'grooming' is just an attempt to blame some external bogeyman rather than face up to the fact that we are breeding these animals in this country and doing fùck all to stop it. She is not some nice, western girl who's been led astray, she is the logical conclusion of importing and tolerating thousands of salafist terrorist sympathisers under the guise of 'compassion'. In that sense at least, she is our fault and our responsibility.

Hmmm - rather surprising that so few of the 2.6 mil Muslims in the UK decided to go to Syria then isn't it? How many went in total; a few hundred? Given the powerful nature of what you describe isn't that somewhat surprising?

Methinks you are rather overstating the issue, Burney.

[WES]

Hmmm - rather surprising that so few of the 2.6 mil Muslims in the UK decided to go to Syria then isn't it? How many went in total; a few hundred? Given the powerful nature of what you describe isn't that somewhat surprising?

Methinks you are rather overstating the issue, Burney.

Having said that, the vile b1tch would never get anywhere near our shores again if I had my way, of course.

[Burney]

Hmmm - rather surprising that so few of the 2.6 mil Muslims in the UK decided to go to Syria then isn't it? How many went in total; a few hundred? Given the powerful nature of what you describe isn't that somewhat surprising?

Methinks you are rather overstating the issue, Burney.

There are more than 25,000 UK muslims on the terror watch list (a number the former chair of the Cobra Intelligence Group describes as 'the tip of the iceberg'). Vastly more UK muslims have fought for ISIS than have joined the British military. Our prisons are widely and openly acknowledged to have turned into terrorist recruiting centres.

Tell me again how I'm overstating the issue. :rolleyes:

[Herbert Augustus Chapman]

Having said that, the vile b1tch would never get anywhere near our shores again if I had my way, of course.

to the point where the ISIS brethren will find it quite useless to them (given their predilection for raping children I think it highly likely).

[Burney]

to the point where the ISIS brethren will find it quite useless to them (given their predilection for raping children I think it highly likely).

I think ISIS' days of rape and murder are behind them, h. Those that aren't dead are currently enjoying the hospitality of those whose loved ones they raped and murdered, so are probably wishing they'd been taken out nice and cleanly by a Hellfire missile.

[Alberto Balsam Rodriguez]

Having said that, the vile b1tch would never get anywhere near our shores again if I had my way, of course.

Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

She is a British citizen and, as such, should be allowed to return to this country. If she has committed a crime, she should be charged and tried in a court of law and sentenced accordingly, if found guilty.

I see that her parents want to take care of the child.... what a great idea after all, they did a fine job first time round. Perhaps they will learn from their mistakes?

[Burney]

Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

She is a British citizen and, as such, should be allowed to return to this country. If she has committed a crime, she should be charged and tried in a court of law and sentenced accordingly, if found guilty.

I see that her parents want to take care of the child.... what a great idea after all, they did a fine job first time round. Perhaps they will learn from their mistakes?

The media's readiness to accept the father as some sort of sad victim is almost unbelievable. This is a man who took her to Al-Muhajiroun rallies attended by now-convicted terrorists when she was 12, ffs!

[Alberto Balsam Rodriguez]

The media's readiness to accept the father as some sort of sad victim is almost unbelievable. This is a man who took her to Al-Muhajiroun rallies attended by now-convicted terrorists when she was 12, ffs!


You appear to have done a lot of research on this. Do you think she kept in contact with her parents while she was out there?

[Burney]

You appear to have done a lot of research on this. Do you think she kept in contact with her parents while she was out there?

I wouldn't be at all surprised.

To me, the really key thing here is that she doesn't even pretend to be remorseful - even expecting to be sympathised with - and is amn unreconstructed, militant jihadi who represents a clear threat to the security of this country and certain sections of the media are falling over themselves to take her side.
Whichever way you cut it, there's something deeply, deeply wrong with that.

[WES]

I wouldn't be at all surprised.

To me, the really key thing here is that she doesn't even pretend to be remorseful - even expecting to be sympathised with - and is amn unreconstructed, militant jihadi who represents a clear threat to the security of this country and certain sections of the media are falling over themselves to take her side.
Whichever way you cut it, there's something deeply, deeply wrong with that.

She's either still radicalised or really stupid or both. I'm guessing both. She gave the initial interview in which she was clearly unrepentant, this was followed by her family pointing out that she had been brain washed and probably didn't mean it and this was then followed by a video interview in which she pretty much repeated what she initially said. :hehe:

I'd let her and the child stay there and rot. If nothing else it sends a very powerful message to anyone thinking of leaving for Muslim dominated, third world sh1tholes. Think of the message if she was let back in, we couldn't prove she broke the law (fairly strong chance of that I think) and she then went back to enjoying the benefits of this country whose values she had rejected.

Ban her for life, I say. :nod:

[Sir C]

She's either still radicalised or really stupid or both. I'm guessing both. She gave the initial interview in which she was clearly unrepentant, this was followed by her family pointing out that she had been brain washed and probably didn't mean it and this was then followed by a video interview in which she pretty much repeated what she initially said. :hehe:

I'd let her and the child stay there and rot. If nothing else it sends a very powerful message to anyone thinking of leaving for Muslim dominated, third world sh1tholes. Think of the message if she was let back in, we couldn't prove she broke the law (fairly strong chance of that I think) and she then went back to enjoying the benefits of this country whose values she had rejected.

Ban her for life, I say. :nod:

You mean you're going to have a find a new holiday destination? :-(

[Burney]

She's either still radicalised or really stupid or both. I'm guessing both. She gave the initial interview in which she was clearly unrepentant, this was followed by her family pointing out that she had been brain washed and probably didn't mean it and this was then followed by a video interview in which she pretty much repeated what she initially said. :hehe:

I'd let her and the child stay there and rot. If nothing else it sends a very powerful message to anyone thinking of leaving for Muslim dominated, third world sh1tholes. Think of the message if she was let back in, we couldn't prove she broke the law (fairly strong chance of that I think) and she then went back to enjoying the benefits of this country whose values she had rejected.

Ban her for life, I say. :nod:

She really ought to sack her PR, tbh.

https://twitter.com/Independent/status/1097487686095507456

[IUFG]

She really ought to sack her PR, tbh.

https://twitter.com/Independent/status/1097487686095507456

I see she has resorted to a charm offensive to get "home"... :rolleyes:

[WES]

You mean you're going to have a find a new holiday destination? :-(

Dubai isn't a Muslim dominated third world sh1thole. :shrug:

[Burney]

Dubai isn't a Muslim dominated third world sh1thole. :shrug:

Ummm...its legal system is based in large part on Sharia law. So, whatever else you want to say about it, it definitely is muslim-dominated.

[Herbert Augustus Chapman]

You mean you're going to have a find a new holiday destination? :-(

. . . . . . . .

[Alberto Balsam Rodriguez]

I wouldn't be at all surprised.

To me, the really key thing here is that she doesn't even pretend to be remorseful - even expecting to be sympathised with - and is amn unreconstructed, militant jihadi who represents a clear threat to the security of this country and certain sections of the media are falling over themselves to take her side.
Whichever way you cut it, there's something deeply, deeply wrong with that.


I certainly don't think we should be risking life and limb to go rescue her, especially at cost to tax payer. If she finds her own way back, good luck to her. She'll probably end up at Calais.

[WES]

Ummm...its legal system is based in large part on Sharia law. So, whatever else you want to say about it, it definitely is muslim-dominated.

If by muslim-dominated you mean the people that run things are muslim then yes. But the culture there is nothing like in Iran or Saudi where women are openly subjugated and westerners are rarely seen. And regardless of what you think about it, it is rather technically advanced and not in any way a sh1thole.

Great resorts too :thumbup:

[Burney]

If by muslim-dominated you mean the people that run things are muslim then yes. But the culture there is nothing like in Iran or Saudi where women are openly subjugated and westerners are rarely seen. And regardless of what you think about it, it is rather technically advanced and not in any way a sh1thole.

Great resorts too :thumbup:

Not being as bad as Iran or Saudi is setting the bar pretty low, though isn't it? While it may offer greater licence than other Islamic societies, it is still an Islamic society. Women are subjugated, I'm afraid. And you can be executed for sodomy - among other things. Its record on human rights is also pretty damn poor.

[7sisters]

Not being as bad as Iran or Saudi is setting the bar pretty low, though isn't it? While it may offer greater licence than other Islamic societies, it is still an Islamic society. Women are subjugated, I'm afraid. And you can be executed for sodomy - among other things. Its record on human rights is also pretty damn poor.

Yes but the malls, discounted top notch jewellery, first class hotels and all year round weather mitigates that. 😀

[WES]

Yes but the malls, discounted top notch jewellery, first class hotels and all year round weather mitigates that. ��

Quite right, 7s. :nod:

It's a moderate Islamic country which is technically advanced and offers the conveniences you mention. Dubs :cloud9:

[Burney]

Yes but the malls, discounted top notch jewellery, first class hotels and all year round weather mitigates that. ��

Everywhere has all-year-round weather, 7s. :shrug:

[Burney]

Quite right, 7s. :nod:

It's a moderate Islamic country which is technically advanced and offers the conveniences you mention. Dubs :cloud9:

No. Turkey could reasonably be described as a 'moderate Islamic country'. Dubai is a slightly less hardline Islamic country than Saudi or Iran. :shrug:

[WES]

No. Turkey could reasonably be described as a 'moderate Islamic country'. Dubai is a slightly less hardline Islamic country than Saudi or Iran. :shrug:

Women in Dubai can move freely around with no control over themselves or their dress. A third of Dubai MPs are women.

That is not slightly less hard line than Saudi, it's far less hard line.

[7sisters]

I was there a couple of weeks back and gave the metro a whirl. Very impressive. Lots of little Indian chaps hopping on and off at stations. It was like being on the District Line but with fewer seats. Incredibly clean. You could almost eat your dinner off the floor. 20 dirhams for a day pass, which was far better than the 6 lane traffic jams and the usual 100dir fare to Deira.

[eastgermanautos]

There are more than 25,000 UK muslims on the terror watch list (a number the former chair of the Cobra Intelligence Group describes as 'the tip of the iceberg'). Vastly more UK muslims have fought for ISIS than have joined the British military. Our prisons are widely and openly acknowledged to have turned into terrorist recruiting centres.

Tell me again how I'm overstating the issue. :rolleyes:

Now you're just making stuff up. Anyway, this whole schtick about darkies overrunning the borders is very two years ago. Now it's all about socialism and the cynical manipulations of The Man to turn brother against brother.

Get with it, GI Joe

[Alberto Balsam Rodriguez]

Not being as bad as Iran or Saudi is setting the bar pretty low, though isn't it? While it may offer greater licence than other Islamic societies, it is still an Islamic society. Women are subjugated, I'm afraid. And you can be executed for sodomy - among other things. Its record on human rights is also pretty damn poor.


Wouldn't pass the anti-slavery legislation either

[Burney]

Now you're just making stuff up. Anyway, this whole schtick about darkies overrunning the borders is very two years ago. Now it's all about socialism and the cynical manipulations of The Man to turn brother against brother.

Get with it, GI Joe

Cobra = COBR = Cabinet Office Briefing Room

[Rich]

Not being as bad as Iran or Saudi is setting the bar pretty low, though isn't it? While it may offer greater licence than other Islamic societies, it is still an Islamic society. Women are subjugated, I'm afraid. And you can be executed for sodomy - among other things. Its record on human rights is also pretty damn poor.

I was treated like Royalty when I visited Saudi, to be fair. There are even ways and means to get booze, if you know the right people.

[IUFG]

I was treated like Royalty when I visited Saudi, to be fair. There are even ways and means to get booze, if you know the right people.

so which Journalist did you choose to have brutally murdered?

[Tony C]

Told this story before on the old Arsenal World...back when your IP was displayed.

Mate of mine working over there was given the option of a pay rise or porn.

He choose the latter.

Got home...got comfy, had the Kleenex on stand by, lubed up, slapped the vhs in and then was like WTF because most of the screen was censored out.

Those pesky Saudis :clap:

[Luis Anaconda]

so which Journalist did you choose to have brutally murdered?

Don't give him any ideas, i

[IUFG]

Don't give him any ideas, i

well... I do have a hitlist I could let him have.

[eastgermanautos]

That it stands for something for something does not diminish its cheesiness.

[Burney]

That it stands for something for something does not diminish its cheesiness.

Simply throwing a few shovelfuls of soil into the otherwise limitless depths of your ignorance, old boy. :thumbup:

[eastgermanautos]

I'm as partial to a well-crafted acronym as the next man. MILF, for example. Lol. FYI.