I’ve watched us when we were **** in the 70s

[Sir C]

the 80s and the 90s. This is a whole different level of ****. This is soulless, heartless, infertile ****. This is sub-Mourinho ****. Only ****s like Wes and Robson are happy to see us fall this far.

[Burney]

the 80s and the 90s. This is a whole different level of ****. This is soulless, heartless, infertile ****. This is sub-Mourinho ****. Only ****s like Wes and Robson are happy to see us fall this far.

Robson? Who is Robson?

[Sir C]

Robson? Who is Robson?

Stewart Robson.

[Burney]

Stewart Robson.

Oh, him. He always hated Wenger with a weird and inexplicable intensity.

[Sir C]

Oh, him. He always hated Wenger with a weird and inexplicable intensity.

Him and many dickheads of his ilk.

[Burney]

Him and many dickheads of his ilk.

oh, well. At least we’re pushing all vestiges of creativity out of the club, so that’s bound to make things better.

[Tony C]

Unai is shrewd...he’s concentrating on Top4.

[Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult]

the 80s and the 90s. This is a whole different level of ****. This is soulless, heartless, infertile ****. This is sub-Mourinho ****. Only ****s like Wes and Robson are happy to see us fall this far.

No, C.

When we wree **** in the 70s, we at leats played Chippy, as opposed to benching him. And we flogged him to Juve instead of giving him away for free.

18 months ago we were 3-0 up in a flash over there, but everyone says things are so much better now so it must be true.

[Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult]

oh, well. At least we’re pushing all vestiges of creativity out of the club, so that’s bound to make things better.

Hleb did more tonight than most of Dick's cloggers have done since Xmas.

[AFC East]

the 80s and the 90s. This is a whole different level of ****. This is soulless, heartless, infertile ****. This is sub-Mourinho ****. Only ****s like Wes and Robson are happy to see us fall this far.

I go back even further, I’d be lying to say I’ve not seen worse, but certainly not since Don Howe left the club, perhaps earlier.

[Burney]

Hleb did more tonight than most of Dick's cloggers have done since Xmas.

So when do we think Emery will get sacked?

If he sees out 2019 I’ll be surprised.

[AFC East]

So when do we think Emery will get sacked?

If he sees out 2019 I’ll be surprised.

And disappointed?

[Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult]

So when do we think Emery will get sacked?

If he sees out 2019 I’ll be surprised.

Tomorrow if we're lucky but it won't change shît with the Septic in charge.

But AFTV were too thick to see what the real probelm is.

They made this bed. And it's full of shît. So they must lie in it.

[Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult]

And disappointed?

Yeah. Had my missus had this squad at the start of the season, with Torreira added to Ozil, Rambo, Auba and Laca and she could have done better than Dick.

And she knows **** all about football.

Like our 100% owner.

****** NUKE SEPTICS NOW - FREE RADIOACTIVE DEATH ***********

[Alberto Balsam Rodriguez]

the 80s and the 90s. This is a whole different level of ****. This is soulless, heartless, infertile ****. This is sub-Mourinho ****. Only ****s like Wes and Robson are happy to see us fall this far.


I thought you'd be happy about tonight's result?

[Sir C]

I thought you'd be happy about tonight's result?

I’m an Arsenal fan. How could I enjoy us losing?

[redgunamo]

Unai is shrewd...he’s concentrating on Top4.

Shrood indeed ...:sherlock:

[Tony C]

It seems like Mickey Pearce was on point with his list of players leaving imo

Dreadful

Cech, Matalan Niles, Mustafi, Kos, Mkhytaryan and Iwobi can all leave imo

Might be time to cash in on French Vardy too.

Had high hopes he would be our Captain next season but he let us down tonight.

Not to mention Ozil whose more sick than that Syrian girl’s baby.

[Burney]

And disappointed?

Not really. At that point, I doubt I’ll care much.

Which is rather the point.

[redgunamo]

Yes. Another point is we don't really matter anymore, in any case :glazer:

:-\



Not really. At that point, I doubt I’ll care much.

Which is rather the point.

[IUFG]

the 80s and the 90s. This is a whole different level of ****. This is soulless, heartless, infertile ****. This is sub-Mourinho ****. Only ****s like Wes and Robson are happy to see us fall this far.

stop your whining, sc. These things happen...

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[Pokster]

Bunch of moaing tossers on here.

Last season we were absolutely rubbish away from home for the last 6 months of the season.

People on here slagging him off after 6 months in the job while AW was taking the club backwards for a number of years. Give him time and judge him more at the end of next season.

[PSRB]

the 80s and the 90s. This is a whole different level of ****. This is soulless, heartless, infertile ****. This is sub-Mourinho ****. Only ****s like Wes and Robson are happy to see us fall this far.

Spot on. Would not pay to watch this shower of ****e

[Burney]

Bunch of moaing tossers on here.

Last season we were absolutely rubbish away from home for the last 6 months of the season.

People on here slagging him off after 6 months in the job while AW was taking the club backwards for a number of years. Give him time and judge him more at the end of next season.

'Taking us backwards' while...y'know...winning trophies and playing attractive football.

[PSRB]

'Taking us backwards' while...y'know...winning trophies and playing attractive football.

I do think he probably needed a break but he's had that, bring him back immediately

[Burney]

I do think he probably needed a break but he's had that, bring him back immediately

He needs to ride to the rescue with his lovely kind smile, sweep the place clean of this snaggle-toothed, oleaginous Iberian dullard and his equally clueless hangers-on and resume his rightful place at the helm of the club as manager for life until he dies in 40 years or so. :cloud9:

[Tony C]

Two things

The one rumour which I think is quite believable is that Arsene’s plan was to ride off into the sunset after the Cup Final win vs Chelsea.

But Ivan had his own plans and ‘persuaded’ him to sign a 2 year extension.

He then brought in Raul and Sven, sacked Arsene, got Unai and then ran off to Meelan :shrug: he’s just as culpable for all of this imo

My guess is Arsene new the FA Cup was the furthest he could take the team without investment but took a bullet for the club he lives so much...albeit a £10m bullet with a £17m payoff at the end.

Then there’s Allegri and Luis Enrique who turned down the job because they were getting Van Perdue style lack of investment assurances.

Poor Unai got it because he was willing to work with the current group to make them better.

Said in the summer that I felt as admirable as that was he was likely to find people like Mustafi and Xhaka complete dog sh it.

[Pokster]

'Taking us backwards' while...y'know...winning trophies and playing attractive football.

So from 2005 to 2018 he won 3 trophys, last season we hardly won away from home and finished 6th. So in 6 months we have a better away record, we are currently 1 point off the top 4 and still in the EL.

[Sir C]

So from 2005 to 2018 he won 3 trophys, last season we hardly won away from home and finished 6th. So in 6 months we have a better away record, we are currently 1 point off the top 4 and still in the EL.

:sigh: Between 2005 and 2018 he won us 3 trophies whilst keeping us in the Champions League every year dispite having to sell our best players to balance the books.

But you know that. Your failure to acknowledge it is sheer mendacity.

[Burney]

So from 2005 to 2018 he won 3 trophys, last season we hardly won away from home and finished 6th. So in 6 months we have a better away record, we are currently 1 point off the top 4 and still in the EL.

So the three cups we won in 2014, 2015 and 2017 was us 'going backwards', was it? By what measure, exactly?

[AFC East]

Not really. At that point, I doubt I’ll care much.

Which is rather the point.

Fair point, it's becoming harder to care by the game. I merely shrugged at the end of last night's game.

[WES]

'Taking us backwards' while...y'know...winning trophies and playing attractive football.

There are a couple of absurd views routinely trotted out by the anti-Unai whining bitches. First is that the football was attractive under Wenger and is not under Unai. Anyone who watched the endless games of anonymous possession under Wenger the last few seasons and then watched us rip apart Spurs this year would realise how stupid this view is. The second is that Unai has somehow betrayed the traditions of our club by changing the way we play and bringing in new players. Because Wenger certainly never did that, let alone being the first to field a no English players starting 11. :hehe:

As for going backwards - we used to win the league. Then we challenged for it only occasionally. Last year we finished 37 points behind the league winners and were 7 points closer to relegation than we were to the top of the table.

That sounds like a pretty good definition of going backwards to me.

[WES]

Fair point, it's becoming harder to care by the game. I merely shrugged at the end of last night's game.

And if you were to look at the posts on AWIMB over the past few years you would find it filled with long time Arsenal supporters who had stopped caring under Wenger because they knew what they were going to see and they were bored of it. :shrug:

[Bergkamp Was Best]

Are we all still moaning about last night?
We'll thrash those Belarusians within an inch of their lives next week and all will be forgotten :nod:

[WES]

Are we all still moaning about last night?
We'll thrash those Belarusians within an inch of their lives next week and all will be forgotten :nod:

Yup :nod:

Until the next poor result and then all this revisionism will return. Because, as we know, everything was just soooooo wonderful under Wenger last year. :hehe:

[Ash]

Yup :nod:

Until the next poor result and then all this revisionism will return. Because, as we know, everything was just soooooo wonderful under Wenger last year. :hehe:

It is possible for things to have been bad both last year and this year.

I can see us winning 2-1 next week.

[Burney]

It is possible for things to have been bad both last year and this year.

I can see us winning 2-1 next week.

Even going through against Battyboy Boris in Europe's premier sh*t club competition is unlikely to elevate the mood much, I'd have thought.

[7sisters]

It is possible for things to have been bad both last year and this year.

I can see us winning 2-1 next week.

I find it difficult to definitively slate any new manager, who has no realistic alternative but to walk around in his predecessors hole filled shoes. He's been beset by bad luck. It's not unreasonable to hope a new manager can get more out of some of his players but in the case of Mustafi, Xhaka, Elneney and several others past their sell by date, you cannot polish a turd. :shrug:
For balance, I'd question his choice to not use Ozil or Ramsey. This seems madness in the current situation and could make the difference between finishing inside or outside the top four. We have them as resources, they're being paid large amounts of money to simply train. :shrug:

[Burney]

I find it difficult to definitively slate any new manager, who has no realistic alternative but to walk around in his predecessors hole filled shoes. He's been beset by bad luck. It's not unreasonable to hope a new manager can get more out of some of his players but in the case of Mustafi, Xhaka, Elneney and several others past their sell by date, you cannot polish a turd. :shrug:
For balance, I'd question his choice to not use Ozil or Ramsey. This seems madness in the current situation and could make the difference between finishing inside or outside the top four. We have them as resources, they're being paid large amounts of money to simply train. :shrug:

Nothing can be 'hole-filled', 7s. A hole is, by definition, empty.

[SWv2]

Tomorrow if we're lucky but it won't change shît with the Septic in charge.

But AFTV were too thick to see what the real probelm is.

They made this bed. And it's full of shît. So they must lie in it.

Dude, you need to lay off the coffee or cocaine or whatever stimulant you are enjoying as you sound like an absolute fúcking cretin which I am 100% sure you are not.

Calling for a manager to be sacked when any person with any basic knowledge of football, and of Arsenal, knows he has a rebuilding job of this and in all likelihood next season ahead of him.

Last night was pish but we will go through next week, there is absolutely no doubt of that.

Just calm the fúck down please.

[Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult]

Fair point, it's becoming harder to care by the game. I merely shrugged at the end of last night's game.

Exactly.Normally, 1-0 down with 2-3 mins to go plus injury time and I'm shouting for an equalizer.

Last night I was thinking "it would be a bit unfair if we nicked one now. These lads (the home fans) deserve an historic victory. Goof luck to them."

The fact that for the first 60 mins, Hleb was the most creative player on the pitch might have had something to do with less than full support for the Arsenal cause.

[Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult]

There are a couple of absurd views routinely trotted out by the anti-Unai whining bitches. First is that the football was attractive under Wenger and is not under Unai. Anyone who watched the endless games of anonymous possession under Wenger the last few seasons and then watched us rip apart Spurs this year would realise how stupid this view is. The second is that Unai has somehow betrayed the traditions of our club by changing the way we play and bringing in new players. Because Wenger certainly never did that, let alone being the first to field a no English players starting 11. :hehe:

As for going backwards - we used to win the league. Then we challenged for it only occasionally. Last year we finished 37 points behind the league winners and were 7 points closer to relegation than we were to the top of the table.

That sounds like a pretty good definition of going backwards to me.

The team I grew up with were full of Paddies. And they're a lot more foreign than the French are. I mean, I can get a train to Paris in 2hrs. Trying getting to Dublin or Belfast.

And I like foreigners better than northerners, so all in all, jobs a good'un.

[Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult]

Dude, you need to lay off the coffee or cocaine or whatever stimulant you are enjoying as you sound like an absolute fúcking cretin which I am 100% sure you are not.

Calling for a manager to be sacked when any person with any basic knowledge of football, and of Arsenal, knows he has a rebuilding job of this and in all likelihood next season ahead of him.

Last night was pish but we will go through next week, there is absolutely no doubt of that.

Just calm the fúck down please.

Look. I just don't like him.

Remember that goal against some Ruskies last year, where Ozil chipped it over the top perfectly picking out Rambo's run who then jumped on the turn and lifted the ball over the advancing 'keeper with the outside of his boot?

That's why I hate him.

Ozil and Rambo made me happy, even if we lost. Because I know they can do things like that fairly regularly.

Both have had some stunningly creative performances this season, but Dick doesn't like that so drops them.

Sorry, mate. Not for me.

I know I'm being hypocritical because I always hate people turning on new signings. {I sung Bendtner and Gervinho's praises for ages in the hope that they'd come good which shows how little I know about the game.}

But in the Ozil/Rambo vs Dick war, I know which side I'm on.

And as he's clearly never going to be given the investment he'd need to rebuild the squad in his own image to a title contending level, it's just gonna be this shît forever.

It's like splitting up from your stunning girlfriend of 20 years and realising the only birds you can get are mingers from the web.

Yet before, in your eyes at least, your 20 year girlfriend was always as beautiful as she looked when you first got together and fell in love.

Maybe I'll get over it, but I reckon it's gonna take me a few more managers first.

{Btw, just realised that I had my first fling with my beloved around the time AW arrived. Maybe a month, at most two, either way.}

[Sir C]

Look. I just don't like him.

Remember that goal against some Ruskies last year, where Ozil chipped it over the top perfectly picking out Rambo's run who then jumped on the turn and lifted the ball over the advancing 'keeper with the outside of his boot?

That's why I hate him.

Ozil and Rambo made me happy, even if we lost. Because I know they can do things like that fairly regularly.

Both have had some stunningly creative performances this season, but Dick doesn't like that so drops them.

Sorry, mate. Not for me.

I know I'm being hypocritical because I always hate people turning on new signings. {I sung Bendtner and Gervinho's praises for ages in the hope that they'd come good which shows how little I know about the game.}

But in the Ozil/Rambo vs Dick war, I know which side I'm on.

And as he's clearly never going to be given the investment he'd need to rebuild the squad in his own image to a title contending level, it's just gonna be this shît forever.

It's like splitting up from your stunning girlfriend of 20 years and realising the only birds you can get are mingers from the web.

Yet before, in your eyes at least, your 20 year girlfriend was always as beautiful as she looked when you first got together and fell in love.

Maybe I'll get over it, but I reckon it's gonna take me a few more managers first.

{Btw, just realised that I had my first fling with my beloved around the time AW arrived. Maybe a month, at most two, either way.}

There is sense here. Sense aplenty. I'd only argue with you turning your nose up ast mingers from the web.

There's nothing wrong with a minger.

[SWv2]

Look. I just don't like him.

Remember that goal against some Ruskies last year, where Ozil chipped it over the top perfectly picking out Rambo's run who then jumped on the turn and lifted the ball over the advancing 'keeper with the outside of his boot?

That's why I hate him.

Ozil and Rambo made me happy, even if we lost. Because I know they can do things like that fairly regularly.

Both have had some stunningly creative performances this season, but Dick doesn't like that so drops them.

Sorry, mate. Not for me.

I know I'm being hypocritical because I always hate people turning on new signings. {I sung Bendtner and Gervinho's praises for ages in the hope that they'd come good which shows how little I know about the game.}

But in the Ozil/Rambo vs Dick war, I know which side I'm on.

And as he's clearly never going to be given the investment he'd need to rebuild the squad in his own image to a title contending level, it's just gonna be this shît forever.

It's like splitting up from your stunning girlfriend of 20 years and realising the only birds you can get are mingers from the web.

Yet before, in your eyes at least, your 20 year girlfriend was always as beautiful as she looked when you first got together and fell in love.

Maybe I'll get over it, but I reckon it's gonna take me a few more managers first.

{Btw, just realised that I had my first fling with my beloved around the time AW arrived. Maybe a month, at most two, either way.}

I have never been in the situation where I have had to make do with mingers, internet sourced or otherwise, so that part of your analogy is weak with me.

The Ozil/Ramsey issue is a shítfest, I doubt there is a sane Arsenal supporter that would argue otherwise.

Ozil is on his way out of the club and that I suspect is UE's call as manager and you know what we should back him - none of us really know what is happening yet are quick to simply decide it is the fault of one person in the relationship.

There is a lot of misty eyed nostalgia about the lad who is a marvellous footballer but a player who has been utterly bóllocks and anonymous as frequently in matches as he has been mercurial and game changing. I read last evening that he has missed 100 games for one reason or another in his AFC career. The issue is simply not UE.

Ramsey I suspect the contract decision is not that of UE but the new hierarchy structure which exists in the club. If he was asking for such an outrageous figure, which on top of 300k for Ozil and then then inevitable rush of other players seeking parity then the club was correct to remove the deal.

The major issue with AR is his being sold for free. Not the fault of UE and if anything the fault of the previous administration.

And yet again Ramsey is a player around whom an enormouse sense of MEN exists as throughout his entire career people, Arsenal people, were queuing up to verbally bash the lad.


Bit of decorum is needed. See the season out, huge job in the summer (fúcking huge) during which the club must support Emery financially and footballistically.

To be so hugely critical at this juncture is the actions of an idiot. Sorry.

And I am quite shocked at some of the others involved in this debate, people quick enough to criticise others who may speak out of turn on occasion. The hypocrisy shocks me.


p.s. you can get to Dublin in 50 minutes from London. You do know where Ireland is?

[Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult]

I have never been in the situation where I have had to make do with mingers, internet sourced or otherwise, so that part of your analogy is weak with me.

The Ozil/Ramsey issue is a shítfest, I doubt there is a sane Arsenal supporter that would argue otherwise.

Ozil is on his way out of the club and that I suspect is UE's call as manager and you know what we should back him - none of us really know what is happening yet are quick to simply decide it is the fault of one person in the relationship.

There is a lot of misty eyed nostalgia about the lad who is a marvellous footballer but a player who has been utterly bóllocks and anonymous as frequently in matches as he has been mercurial and game changing. I read last evening that he has missed 100 games for one reason or another in his AFC career. The issue is simply not UE.

Ramsey I suspect the contract decision is not that of UE but the new hierarchy structure which exists in the club. If he was asking for such an outrageous figure, which on top of 300k for Ozil and then then inevitable rush of other players seeking parity then the club was correct to remove the deal.

The major issue with AR is his being sold for free. Not the fault of UE and if anything the fault of the previous administration.

And yet again Ramsey is a player around whom an enormouse sense of MEN exists as throughout his entire career people, Arsenal people, were queuing up to verbally bash the lad.


Bit of decorum is needed. See the season out, huge job in the summer (fúcking huge) during which the club must support Emery financially and footballistically.

To be so hugely critical at this juncture is the actions of an idiot. Sorry.

And I am quite shocked at some of the others involved in this debate, people quick enough to criticise others who may speak out of turn on occasion. The hypocrisy shocks me.


p.s. you can get to Dublin in 50 minutes from London. You do know where Ireland is?

I know Rambo's leaving. I know the club wants Ozil out coz Dick wants width, not a no.10.

Fine.

But they should both be playing for the rest of the season. This is my problem.

We've lacked creativity for the last 3 months, but he persists with the likes of Xhaka and Gwendo in MF doing nothing with Ozil and Rambo on the bench or not even in the squad.

That is the point. I'd have made the best of Ozil and Rambo now and then rebuilt in the summer. Maybe we'd have more wins. But even if not, I bet we'd have some sexier goals and I'd be happy.

Of course I know where Ireland is. It's after Wales. Which means you can't get a train there.

And even if your navvies had knocked up a tunnel I hadn't heard about in the month I've been away, it would still take a lot longer to get to Dublin than the 2hrs or so to Paris.

[Ash]

Last night was pish but we will go through next week, there is absolutely no doubt of that.


Let us hope so.

We will need to either keep a clean sheet or score three goals. None of which is certain imo.

[Alberto Balsam Rodriguez]

I’m an Arsenal fan. How could I enjoy us losing?


I was under the impression that you want Emery out and Wenger back in?

[Sir C]

I was under the impression that you want Emery out and Wenger back in?

Lord no. I object to our depress8ng lack of style or identity. I object to the disrespect with which Wenger was treated. Beyond that, I make no judgment.

[redgunamo]

Yes, if only we'd had an identity before Wenger arrived. My word!


Lord no. I object to our depress8ng lack of style or identity. I object to the disrespect with which Wenger was treated. Beyond that, I make no judgment.

[7sisters]

Yes, if only we'd had an identity before Wenger arrived. My word!

One nil to the Arsenal ? For shame.

[redgunamo]

So the three cups we won in 2014, 2015 and 2017 was us 'going backwards', was it? By what measure, exactly?

"Going backwards" is perhaps a little strong. "Not going forwards" maybe?

After all, I don't imagine we built the Emirates and signed superstars from Real Madrid and Barcelona in order to win a few more FA Cups, did we.

Not that there's anything wrong with that, of course, but even Wenger himself would've been wanting more, I suspect.

[redgunamo]

I know. Completely non-descript club. No history, no sense of tradition.



One nil to the Arsenal ? For shame.

[AFC East]

Let us hope so.

We will need to either keep a clean sheet or score three goals. None of which is certain imo.

There should be no doubt we are going through, but there is. This would be our biggest European failing for decades. Fingers crossed it isn't.

[Pokster]

There should be no doubt we are going through, but there is. This would be our biggest European failing for decades. Fingers crossed it isn't.

Considering how close we came to throwing it away against a team of Swedish part timers last year, nothing is certain...