She must be some sort of masochist.

[Sir C]

Just rsign, woman, and let some other mug deal with this shítshow.

[Burney]

Just rsign, woman, and let some other mug deal with this shítshow.

Unfortunately, she’s a dangerous mixture of stubborn, determined and utterly devoid of flair, courage, imagination or vision.
Just as all Churchill’s flaws became strengths during WWII, all her potential strengths as a Cabinet Minister (or even PM during quiet times) are flaws in this situation.

[Sir C]

Unfortunately, she’s a dangerous mixture of stubborn, determined and utterly devoid of flair, courage, imagination or vision.
Just as all Churchill’s flaws became strengths during WWII, all her potential strengths as a Cabinet Minister (or even PM during quiet times) are flaws in this situation.

She's a fúcking maniac is what she is.

[WES]

Unfortunately, she’s a dangerous mixture of stubborn, determined and utterly devoid of flair, courage, imagination or vision.
Just as all Churchill’s flaws became strengths during WWII, all her potential strengths as a Cabinet Minister (or even PM during quiet times) are flaws in this situation.

I paid slightly more attention to this recently and I'm not sure I understand the DUP's issue with the backstop particularly.

It seems that the main complaint is that the backstop - like paying 39bil immediately - is seen as weakening our bargaining position in the future relationship negotiations hence it has to go. But if it goes does that not simply mean that our main leverage is a no deal threat? And how much leverage is that given that every c*nt and his dog has assured the public that no deal will not happen including Parliament itself?

And isn't the DUP adamantly opposed to no deal because it means a hard border with Ireland? Honestly, so much of this still feels like much ado about nothing to me.

[Burney]

She's a fúcking maniac is what she is.

I don’t even think she’s that. I just think she's a career technocrat plodder wildly out of her depth because she utterly fails to grasp emotional dynamics of Brexit.

[SWv2]

I paid slightly more attention to this recently and I'm not sure I understand the DUP's issue with the backstop particularly.

It seems that the main complaint is that the backstop - like paying 39bil immediately - is seen as weakening our bargaining position in the future relationship negotiations hence it has to go. But if it goes does that not simply mean that our main leverage is a no deal threat? And how much leverage is that given that every c*nt and his dog has assured the public that no deal will not happen including Parliament itself?

And isn't the DUP adamantly opposed to no deal because it means a hard border with Ireland? Honestly, so much of this still feels like much ado about nothing to me.

They are fúcking lunatics W.

Hope that helps.

[Burney]

I paid slightly more attention to this recently and I'm not sure I understand the DUP's issue with the backstop particularly.

It seems that the main complaint is that the backstop - like paying 39bil immediately - is seen as weakening our bargaining position in the future relationship negotiations hence it has to go. But if it goes does that not simply mean that our main leverage is a no deal threat? And how much leverage is that given that every c*nt and his dog has assured the public that no deal will not happen including Parliament itself?

And isn't the DUP adamantly opposed to no deal because it means a hard border with Ireland? Honestly, so much of this still feels like much ado about nothing to me.

OK. You may have been paying attention to this, but clearly understand very little about 220 years of Ulster Unionism.

[WES]

OK. You may have been paying attention to this, but clearly understand very little about 220 years of Ulster Unionism.

Oh yes, I know nothing of the history of NI and Ireland etc. :shrug:

Other than SW's point that they seem to be lunatics. All this fuss over a border. What sort of nutters would allow a simple border to be such a big deal?

[AFC East]

I don’t even think she’s that. I just think she's a career technocrat plodder wildly out of her depth because she utterly fails to grasp emotional dynamics of Brexit.

I think your friend had it right. She's a maniac. No politician can navigate a successful path through this mess.

She's just saving someone else from destroying their career.

We should just get on with making the best of no deal. Everything else needs some sort of agreement and there isn't anywhere near enough common ground on such a phenomenally complex issue.

[WES]

I think your friend had it right. She's a maniac. No politician can navigate a successful path through this mess.

She's just saving someone else from destroying their career.

We should just get on with making the best of no deal. Everything else needs some sort of agreement and there isn't anywhere near enough common ground on such a phenomenally complex issue.

I have come to the same conclusion - the only options are no deal or Remain and we should proceed on that basis. And the criticism of May and her deal are astonishingly over the top and filled with flawed logic; I find it astonishing that more people don't recognize the position she's in and how well she's actually dealt with it.

That pompous oaf Boris was on Marr on Sunday making it seem all so easy. Postpone the 39bil (even though that is money the UK government had previously promised to the EU) and threaten them with no deal (even though Parliament are openly telling everyone they won't allow that to happen) and the EU will magically do what we want.

Cretin.

[AFC East]

I have come to the same conclusion - the only options are no deal or Remain and we should proceed on that basis. And the criticism of May and her deal are astonishingly over the top and filled with flawed logic; I find it astonishing that more people don't recognize the position she's in and how well she's actually dealt with it.

That pompous oaf Boris was on Marr on Sunday making it seem all so easy. Postpone the 39bil (even though that is money the UK government had previously promised to the EU) and threaten them with no deal (even though Parliament are openly telling everyone they won't allow that to happen) and the EU will magically do what we want.

Cretin.

Yep. In this as in many things Boris is a critic from the side. It’s a shame he didn’t get a run at it. He may have learned a little humility.