Well that was pretty wânk, wasn't it?

[Burney]

Loads of possession and we were still lucky to scrape a draw. Still can't beat a top 4 side.

Same old shìt, different wrapper.

Emery OUT.

[Rich]

Loads of possession and we were still lucky to scrape a draw. Still can't beat a top 4 side.

Same old shìt, different wrapper.

Emery OUT.

Didn't watch but heard it was an even game that we potentially edged? Nice finish from Lacazette too, I'm told.

[IUFG]

Loads of possession and we were still lucky to scrape a draw. Still can't beat a top 4 side.

Same old shìt, different wrapper.

Emery OUT.

Liverpool are a very good side, b.

I thought we played very well. That level of energy and pressing hasn't been in an Arsenal side since GG's days.

Fúck the bindippers and their disallowed goal :-D

Also, the best atmos at the ground for a long, long time imo

[71 Guns - channeling the spirit of Mr Hat]

Loads of possession and we were still lucky to scrape a draw. Still can't beat a top 4 side.

Same old shìt, different wrapper.

Emery OUT.

Nope. We'd have lost that 4-1 under the SFC :thumbup:

[Burney]

Didn't watch but heard it was an even game that we potentially edged? Nice finish from Lacazette too, I'm told.

We were horribly fragile at the back and woefully profligate in front of goal. Also, Leno is a total fùcking clown - it's like having Almunia back.

[eastgermanautos]

Didn't watch but heard it was an even game that we potentially edged? Nice finish from Lacazette too, I'm told.

Don't listen to the bad man, Rich.

[IUFG]

We were horribly fragile at the back and woefully profligate in front of goal. Also, Leno is a total fùcking clown - it's like having Almunia back.

Like Almunia? :nono:

http://www.awimb.com/showthread.php?606500

[Sir C]

Loads of possession and we were still lucky to scrape a draw. Still can't beat a top 4 side.

Same old shìt, different wrapper.

Emery OUT.

We played pretty well, I thought. There were definite signs of what he's trying to do. There is definitely potential in this midfield pairing of Torreira and Xhaka.

Given what might have happened, I think Emery's start has been hugely encouraging.

You would do well top offer him some respect, b, for that is The Arsenal way.

[Monty92]

Nope. We'd have lost that 4-1 under the SFC :thumbup:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42362392

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/32097847

[Burney]

We played pretty well, I thought. There were definite signs of what he's trying to do. There is definitely potential in this midfield pairing of Torreira and Xhaka.

Given what might have happened, I think Emery's start has been hugely encouraging.

You would do well top offer him some respect, b, for that is The Arsenal way.

NEVER! :shakehead:

[71 Guns - channeling the spirit of Mr Hat]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42362392

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/32097847

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37001073

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40990427

[71 Guns - channeling the spirit of Mr Hat]

We played pretty well, I thought. There were definite signs of what he's trying to do. There is definitely potential in this midfield pairing of Torreira and Xhaka.

Given what might have happened, I think Emery's start has been hugely encouraging.

You would do well top offer him some respect, b, for that is The Arsenal way.

Well said Sir C :thumbup: :clap: Wenger Out indeed :-)

[Sir C]

Well said Sir C :thumbup: :clap: Wenger Out indeed :-)

You can take your Wenger Out and poke it up your hoop, 71.

[Monty92]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37001073

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40990427

You're the one claiming 1 point from 3 big games is progress :shrug:

[71 Guns - channeling the spirit of Mr Hat]

You're the one claiming 1 point from 3 big games is progress :shrug:

:shrug: would you have been happier if we had lost just to prove a point? Given that everybody is salivating over Liverpool especially this season and their undoubted forward line, I do think that result is progress for us. Don't get me wrong - I still think we'll find it difficult to get top 4 given the quality of the other sides but we are heading in the 'right' direction surely?

[PSRB]

We played pretty well, I thought. There were definite signs of what he's trying to do. There is definitely potential in this midfield pairing of Torreira and Xhaka.

Given what might have happened, I think Emery's start has been hugely encouraging.

You would do well top offer him some respect, b, for that is The Arsenal way.

I thought we played really well :shrug: Ozil was excellent, Torriera, Holding, Mustafi all very good. Xhaka was MotM for us but though VvD for them was the best player on the pitch, huge difference he's made to their defence.

[Billy Goat Sverige]

We were horribly fragile at the back and woefully profligate in front of goal. Also, Leno is a total fùcking clown - it's like having Almunia back.

He made one mistake when he came out and missed it and the Liverpool chap hit the post with his header. On their goal he did the correct thing and were it not for Holding sticking his leg out and deflecting it into Milner’s path we’d not be talking about it.

[PSRB]

He made one mistake when he came out and missed it and the Liverpool chap hit the post with his header. On their goal he did the correct thing and were it not for Holding sticking his leg out and deflecting it into Milner’s path we’d not be talking about it.

:nod: I really like him, young, great distribution and already made several brilliant saves. The one against VvD was superb.

[Rich]

:nod: I really like him, young, great distribution and already made several brilliant saves. The one against VvD was superb.

He's a poor man's Jordan Pickford. Why can we not have Pickford :-(

[Monty92]

:shrug: would you have been happier if we had lost just to prove a point? Given that everybody is salivating over Liverpool especially this season and their undoubted forward line, I do think that result is progress for us. Don't get me wrong - I still think we'll find it difficult to get top 4 given the quality of the other sides but we are heading in the 'right' direction surely?

I don't disagree with a word of that :shrug:

Just pointing out how ridiculous it is to compare him to Wenger at this point, especially when Wenger's recent record in big games was arguably better.

Last season we drew at home with Liverpool towards the end of the year in game that saw us play some scintilating football only to be undone by defensive ****tness, and finished the game in 5th place, some way off the top. If there has been progress, it's been very, very tentative :shrug:

[Pat Vegas]

I don't know on here if people are actually annoyed or taking the piss. :shrug:

[Pokster]

I don't disagree with a word of that :shrug:

Just pointing out how ridiculous it is to compare him to Wenger at this point, especially when Wenger's recent record in big games was arguably better.

I tyake it that means his record in "lesser" games is much better than AW's then? So progress does seem to have been made

[PSRB]

He's a poor man's Jordan Pickford. Why can we not have Pickford :-(

I like Pickford but he's too short. Leno will be our no.1 for the next 5+ years and he'll get better and better

[Rich]

I don't disagree with a word of that :shrug:

Just pointing out how ridiculous it is to compare him to Wenger at this point, especially when Wenger's recent record in big games was arguably better.

Our issue was consistently dropping points against teams in the bottom half of the table. Well, that and not being able to compete with the best teams in the league.

[Pokster]

I don't know on here if people are actually annoyed or taking the piss. :shrug:

b is just a miserable **** p

[Pat Vegas]

b is just a miserable **** p

and monty is monty.

[Monty92]

I tyake it that means his record in "lesser" games is much better than AW's then? So progress does seem to have been made

We're four points better off than we were at the same stage last season and have the same number of points as the season before.

We definitely haven't got any worse, I'll give you that :shrug:

[Burney]

I don't know on here if people are actually annoyed or taking the piss. :shrug:

Well I can't speak for anyone else, f, but I'm taking the pìss in a somewhat annoyed fashion.

My take is simply that while Emery is demonstrating a decent level of competence and there are encouraging signs, the hype about him is unwarranted given that our overall position so far is no better this season than it was for years under Wenger.

It's all honeymoon period bóllocks, basically and we should judge him in May.

[Pokster]

We're four points better off than we were at the same stage last season and have the same number of points as the season before.

We definitely haven't got any worse, I'll give you that :shrug:

So looking at those 2 facts, we are getting better... wd Monty for admitting progress has been made

[Monty92]

Well I can't speak for anyone else, f, but I'm taking the pìss in a somewhat annoyed fashion.

My take is simply that while Emery is demonstrating a decent level of competence and there are encouraging signs, the hype about him is unwarranted given that our overall position so far is no better this season than it was for years under Wenger.

It's all honeymoon period bóllocks, basically and we should judge him in May.

That speaks for me too. I think there's plenty to be optimistic about - even if it is simply the placebo of removing Wenger and much of the negativity that followed him towards the end. I'm more than ready to start looking forwards rather than backwards, but when people start absurdly comparing him with Wenger at this point I'll point it out :shrug:

[Arsenal Alcoholic Review]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42362392

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/32097847

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/05/15/article-2628653-1DD94E8400000578-83_634x716.jpg

[Burney]

We're four points better off than we were at the same stage last season and have the same number of points as the season before.

We definitely haven't got any worse, I'll give you that :shrug:

I would say that it's reasonable that Emery would have as his goal for the first season CL football as a minimum benchmark of progress. Anything less than that and questions can very reasonably be asked, I think.

[Monty92]

So looking at those 2 facts, we are getting better... wd Monty for admitting progress has been made

Progress so tentative it's barely worth pointing out other than to say "Well, at least we've not got worse".

In fact, that's arguably the biggest positive so far. We don't appear to be suffering an identity crisis, which could have been expected after Wenger left. The players looked energised pretty much from Emery's first match.

[Pat Vegas]

One thing I have 100% noticed is the energy and tempo appears to have increased.
We also seem to keep our heads up when we concede.

I think it was Kolosinac laying on the floor after the Liverpool goal. somebody picked him up immediately.

[Sir C]

Progress so tentative it's barely worth pointing out other than to say "Well, at least we've not got worse".

In fact, that's the biggest positive so far. We don't appear to be suffering an identity crisis, which could have been expected after he left.

What nonsense is this? What 'progress' could one reasonably expect? It was clear that he was going to have to dismantle the tacts, the training, the preparation - everything that Wenger instigated over 20 years, and rebuild it. We could reasonably have expected to have struggled at least for a season while he tried to build something new. Instead, we've played some decent stuff, beaten teams we might expect to beat, and played extremely well against one of the best two sides in the country and earnt a creditable draw.

I'd call that a remarkable beginning. Arsene doesn't need defending here. Arsene's gone.

[Burney]

Progress so tentative it's barely worth pointing out other than to say "Well, at least we've not got worse".

In fact, that's arguably the biggest positive so far. We don't appear to be suffering an identity crisis, which could have been expected after he left. The players looked energised pretty much from his first match.

I'd agree with that. It's no easy thing to follow a chap who'd been there 20 years and keep things on an even keel. David Moyes at United would be the obvious example. It could be argued that Emery has succeeded simply by virtue of not failing.

[Monty92]

What nonsense is this? What 'progress' could one reasonably expect? It was clear that he was going to have to dismantle the tacts, the training, the preparation - everything that Wenger instigated over 20 years, and rebuild it. We could reasonably have expected to have struggled at least for a season while he tried to build something new. Instead, we've played some decent stuff, beaten teams we might expect to beat, and played extremely well against one of the best two sides in the country and earnt a creditable draw.

I'd call that a remarkable beginning. Arsene doesn't need defending here. Arsene's gone.

I think the fact that Wenger left under a pretty heavy and long-standing cloud means that us not imploding under the new fella is not quite as impressive as it would have been for, say, David Moyes, who took over a title winning team.

But I don't think we're in fierce disagreement here.

[Burney]

I think the fact that Wenger left under a pretty heavy and long-standing cloud means that us not imploding under the new fella is not quite as impressive as it would have been for, say, David Moyes, who took over a title winning team.

But I don't think we're in fierce disagreement here.

:nod: You also have to factor in that the Wengerahti have quite a lot of capital invested in talking the new guy up, having been baying for AW's blood for the best part of a decade. That's meant that in effect, Josef Goebbels could have turned up and he'd have got a positive reception from them.

[Monty92]

:nod: You also have to factor in that the Wengerahti have quite a lot of capital invested in talking the new guy up, having been baying for AW's blood for the best part of a decade. That's meant that in effect, Josef Goebbels could have turned up and he'd have got a positive reception from them.

Indeed. Compare the reaction to when Wenger occasionally played Aubameyang on the wing to when Emery does it.

And can you imagine if Wenger had played Xhaha or Iwobi at left back? :hehe:

[Viva Prat Vegas]

:nod:
Wenger played Reiss-Nelson there instead

[Arsenal Alcoholic Review]

Indeed. Compare the reaction to when Wenger occasionally played Aubameyang on the wing to when Emery does it.

And can you imagine if Wenger had played Xhaha or Iwobi at left back? :hehe:

European Silverware. Emery 3-0 Wenger

In fact Emery 3-2 Arsenal

:hide:

[Monty92]

European Silverware. Emery 3-0 Wenger

In fact Emery 3-2 Arsenal

:hide:

Yes, although if Wenger had been competing in the UEFA Cup, rather than the Champions League, for two decades, he might have picked up a few himself too.

[Pokster]

Indeed. Compare the reaction to when Wenger occasionally played Aubameyang on the wing to when Emery does it.

And can you imagine if Wenger had played Xhaha or Iwobi at left back? :hehe:

If it had turned out as well as it has then he would have been praised... Iwobi at LB worked brilliantly as he helped push them back and set up the goal

[Arsenal Alcoholic Review]

Yes, although if Wenger had been competing in the UEFA Cup, rather than the Champions League, for two decades, he might have picked up a few himself too.

I don't know. You had to beat the likes of the mighty Galatasaray and Paok Salonika.

[Monty92]

If it had turned out as well as it has then he would have been praised... Iwobi at LB worked brilliantly as he helped push them back and set up the goal

And when it didn't, it would be used as evidence of his senile French ****ery.

Whereas when Xhaka costs us the game against Palace, not a peep.

[PSRB]

I would say that it's reasonable that Emery would have as his goal for the first season CL football as a minimum benchmark of progress. Anything less than that and questions can very reasonably be asked, I think.

I'm happy with Top 6 this year but then it must be top 4, if not challenging for the title.

[Pat Vegas]

And when it didn't, it would be used as evidence of his senile French ****ery.

Whereas when Xhaka costs us the game against Palace, not a peep.

seems unfair to blame someone for standing in a position where a player pretends to run into him.

[Monty92]

seems unfair to blame someone for standing in a position where a player pretends to run into him.

His body position smacked of a midfielder, not a left back.

[IUFG]

And can you imagine if Wenger had played Xhaha or Iwobi at left back? :hehe:

There are two turds that Emery has polished up quite nicely. So to speak.

Wenger couldn't even roll them in glitter.

[Rich]

I'm happy with Top 6 this year but then it must be top 4, if not challenging for the title.

I feel as though we need to moderate your expectations here. Challenging for the title next season... :hehe:

[PSRB]

I feel as though we need to moderate your expectations here. Challenging for the title next season... :hehe:

Why not? Liverpool are apparently challengers, we'll have 2 more transfer windows and a season to bed Emery's tactics in.

[Luis Anaconda]

I'd agree with that. It's no easy thing to follow a chap who'd been there 20 years and keep things on an even keel. David Moyes at United would be the obvious example. It could be argued that Emery has succeeded simply by virtue of not failing.
:nod: I think the desire to build Emery up partially stems from the fact that people said Wenger was leaving the club in a terrible state, which will take years to fix it when in fact. Rather than admit that was complete *******s and Wenger still had eyes on the long-term good of the club, they make Emery out to be a miracle worker (I do like him but there is some over-the-top praise, I do admit). Compared to the state that Ferguson left United in (admittedly as champions), Arsene didn't leave us so badly off

[Burney]

Why not? Liverpool are apparently challengers, we'll have 2 more transfer windows and a season to bed Emery's tactics in.

I do find it very odd that Manchester City look so much better than any other side I've seen this season and aren't further ahead.

[Luis Anaconda]

Why not? Liverpool are apparently challengers, we'll have 2 more transfer windows and a season to bed Emery's tactics in.

Remember Rich is a bit of a ****, p

[PSRB]

I do find it very odd that Manchester City look so much better than any other side I've seen this season and aren't further ahead.

2 other unbeaten teams, though.

£2.7bn over 7 years, just goes to show what a load of nonsense FFP was/is.

[Luis Anaconda]

His body position smacked of a midfielder, not a left back.
Which to be fair, he admitted as much didn't he and said it was a pen?

[WES]

:nod: I think the desire to build Emery up partially stems from the fact that people said Wenger was leaving the club in a terrible state, which will take years to fix it when in fact. Rather than admit that was complete *******s and Wenger still had eyes on the long-term good of the club, they make Emery out to be a miracle worker (I do like him but there is some over-the-top praise, I do admit). Compared to the state that Ferguson left United in (admittedly as champions), Arsene didn't leave us so badly off

Hmmm - this 'Wenger is leaving the club in a terrible state' is not a narrative I particularly remember. I think the feeling was more that we had good enough players and enough money that we should be challenging for the league more often and winning the odd pot, not declining each year as was the case for the past few years. Throw in the lack of progress by many of the younger players and it felt like it he was not making the most of what was available to him.

Of course it's only been 16 games or so but not only has Emery implemented a new way of playing, we're within 6 points of the top of the table almost a third of the way into a season where the top 3 teams are on unprecedented runs. ManU won the league with 79 points in 99 and we might have 3 teams with more than 80 as it stands. Plus, we're seeing improvements in younger players (Holding, Iwobi, Bellerin etc) and tactical adjustments/substitutions that seemed to never happen under Wenger. All in all it's just a great start that everyone should be excited about.

If anyone feels the need to endlessly compare this to Wenger, rather than celebrate what he brought us while looking forward to what we can achieve under Unai, they probably are on a wind up (Burney) or in need of a life (Monty).

:-)

[Luis Anaconda]

Hmmm - this 'Wenger is leaving the club in a terrible state' is not a narrative I particularly remember. I think the feeling was more that we had good enough players and enough money that we should be challenging for the league more often and winning the odd pot, not declining each year as was the case for the past few years. Throw in the lack of progress by many of the younger players and it felt like it he was not making the most of what was available to him.

Of course it's only been 16 games or so but not only has Emery implemented a new way of playing, we're within 6 points of the top of the table almost a third of the way into a season where the top 3 teams are on unprecedented runs. ManU won the league with 79 points in 99 and we might have 3 teams with more than 80 as it stands. Plus, we're seeing improvements in younger players (Holding, Iwobi, Bellerin etc) and tactical adjustments/substitutions that seemed to never happen under Wenger. All in all it's just a great start that everyone should be excited about.

If anyone feels the need to endlessly compare this to Wenger, rather than celebrate what he brought us while looking forward to what we can achieve under Unai, they probably are on a wind up (Burney) or in need of a life (Monty).

:-)

I don't disagree with much of that bar the first point - this is just a token headline from an article in the Sunday Times

"Pity the poor manager who has to rebuild Arsenal when Arsène Wenger goes" - there were quite a few articles like that and then factor in the more vile abuse from some of the Wenger outers about him ruining the club (along with Ivan and Stan). Of course, not all people who wanted him out were of this mind but there was certainly a lot of them.

[Monty92]

I don't disagree with much of that bar the first point - this is just a token headline from an article in the Sunday Times

"Pity the poor manager who has to rebuild Arsenal when Arsène Wenger goes" - there were quite a few articles like that and then factor in the more vile abuse from some of the Wenger outers about him ruining the club (along with Ivan and Stan). Of course, not all people who wanted him out were of this mind but there was certainly a lot of them.

Indeed, the phrase "managed decline" became part of the anti-Wenger lexicon over the past few years

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=wenger+%22managed+decline%22&oq=wenger+%22managed+decline%22&aqs=chrome..69i57.3912j0j9&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

[WES]

Indeed, the phrase "managed decline" became part of the anti-Wenger lexicon over the past few years

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=wenger+%22managed+decline%22&oq=wenger+%22managed+decline%22&aqs=chrome..69i57.3912j0j9&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

You can argue that Arsenal were in decline (the results indicated that that was clearly true) without arguing that Wenger was leaving the club in a terrible state. It depends on how bad he was at managing the players and money available to him. :-)

Not sure how anyone can suggest that Arsenal as a club weren't far ahead of where we were when he arrived. In fact, virtually every analysis of his performance - no matter how bad - started with 'let's not forget what he has done for this club but...'

[7sisters]

You can argue that Arsenal were in decline (the results indicated that that was clearly true) without arguing that Wenger was leaving the club in a terrible state. It depends on how bad he was at managing the players and money available to him. :-)

Not sure how anyone can suggest that Arsenal as a club weren't far ahead of where we were when he arrived. In fact, virtually every analysis of his performance - no matter how bad - started with 'let's not forget what he has done for this club but...'

Didn’t Wenger also become mired in effectively doing a job which is carried out by 3 or 4 people at most other clubs ?
Emery has been left to purely coach the players, whereas, reports claim that AW left the players to work out playing solutions amongst themselves ...

[SWv2]

Not sure why Leno is getting so much stick on the goal.

Failure to hold the cross or failure to clear it into a better position, I saw somewhere a suggestion that he should simply have allowed it go across the goal without interference as Salah was not getting to it.

It was the very unfortunate slight touch off Holding which presented the ball to Milner else it was likely Kolasinac would have dealt with it.

I see nothing but tangible grounds for optimism right through the team.

[Luis Anaconda]

You can argue that Arsenal were in decline (the results indicated that that was clearly true) without arguing that Wenger was leaving the club in a terrible state. It depends on how bad he was at managing the players and money available to him. :-)

Not sure how anyone can suggest that Arsenal as a club weren't far ahead of where we were when he arrived. In fact, virtually every analysis of his performance - no matter how bad - started with 'let's not forget what he has done for this club but...'

Just read this comment in a piece supposedly praising our performance on Saturday " The water damage caused by Wenger’s decline will take years to reverse". Admittedly by one of the worst football writers I have ever read

[7sisters]

You can argue that Arsenal were in decline (the results indicated that that was clearly true) without arguing that Wenger was leaving the club in a terrible state. It depends on how bad he was at managing the players and money available to him. :-)

Not sure how anyone can suggest that Arsenal as a club weren't far ahead of where we were when he arrived. In fact, virtually every analysis of his performance - no matter how bad - started with 'let's not forget what he has done for this club but...'


Just read this comment in a piece supposedly praising our performance on Saturday " The water damage caused by Wenger’s decline will take years to reverse". Admittedly by one of the worst football writers I have ever read

Water damage ? How about, ‘rusting effect’ or perhaps, ‘malignant carcinoma’ .... Jesus. Journo’s eh ?

[Alberto Balsam Rodriguez]

Well I can't speak for anyone else, f, but I'm taking the pìss in a somewhat annoyed fashion.

My take is simply that while Emery is demonstrating a decent level of competence and there are encouraging signs, the hype about him is unwarranted given that our overall position so far is no better this season than it was for years under Wenger.

It's all honeymoon period bóllocks, basically and we should judge him in May.


There is hype?

[SWv2]

There is hype?

Media began to lose the run of itself a little pre-Palace with premature talk of smashing club records.

Perhaps in a rush to crown the man who many / some predicted, or hoped as the case with Monty and his type, would fail.

Certainly a B+ on his report card at this stage.

[WES]

Just read this comment in a piece supposedly praising our performance on Saturday " The water damage caused by Wenger’s decline will take years to reverse". Admittedly by one of the worst football writers I have ever read

Good lord, going to tell us who that muppet is?

He certainly isn't representative of the football writers I read. :shrug:

[PSRB]

Good lord, going to tell us who that muppet is?

He certainly isn't representative of the football writers I read. :shrug:

Jonathan Liew, I assume. LA hates him

[Luis Anaconda]

Jonathan Liew, I assume. LA hates him

Daniel Storey on F365 - all stats and no substance.

Actually completely reversed my opinion on Jonathan Liew - enjoy a lot of his stuff (probably more non-football) and he is quite engaging on Twitter

[PSRB]

Daniel Storey on F365 - all stats and no substance.

Actually completely reversed my opinion on Jonathan Liew - enjoy a lot of his stuff (probably more non-football) and he is quite engaging on Twitter

Generally the only decent read on there is Mediawatch, such as this little piece.......
Right-back to where you started from…
Trent Alexander-Arnold was awful on Saturday. Like really awful. He was targeted by Arsenal from the opening whistle. The Daily Mail generously gave him 6/10, rating Fabinho as the only less accomplished player at the Emirates.

So of course Daily Mail columnist Jamie Redknapp put him in his Team of the Week.

There was literally a better right-back on the other side of the pitch, Jamie. But then you never played for Arsenal…

[Alberto Balsam Rodriguez]

Media began to lose the run of itself a little pre-Palace with premature talk of smashing club records.

Perhaps in a rush to crown the man who many / some predicted, or hoped as the case with Monty and his type, would fail.

Certainly a B+ on his report card at this stage.


In my opinion, the team is performing around about where they should be which, imvho, is in stark contrast to the previous 2-3 seasons where the same-ish players woefully under performed. Does that make Emery a genius or does that highlight a legend of the club that had sadly lost his way?

[SWv2]

In my opinion, the team is performing around about where they should be which, imvho, is in stark contrast to the previous 2-3 seasons where the same-ish players woefully under performed. Does that make Emery a genius or does that highlight a legend of the club that had sadly lost his way?

It can be both as Emery has come into a new role with new players, to him and also new to the club, and performed admirably and has given all genuine hope for the future (which I am not sure was the case any longer with AW).