Should have won that match.......

[PSRB]

Yes Chelsea were probably the better side but they were at home and we missed 2 absolute sitters and at least 2 other very good chances.

BT Sport were getting right on my tits, saying how poor we were defensively yet seemed determined not to mention how many times we cut Chelsea apart down the flanks.

Bellerin should just play on the wing, with the new chap as a RB.

[WES]

Yes Chelsea were probably the better side but they were at home and we missed 2 absolute sitters and at least 2 other very good chances.

BT Sport were getting right on my tits, saying how poor we were defensively yet seemed determined not to mention how many times we cut Chelsea apart down the flanks.

Bellerin should just play on the wing, with the new chap as a RB.

I called Glenda some very bad names in front of Master WES :nod:

He natters on about how bad we are defensively and how completely outplayed we had been for the first 30 minutes and then goes strangely quiet as we rip them to pieces. No mention of how we dominated them for the last 15-20 minutes of the first half.

Horrible c*nt that he is.

The second half surprised me. Was disappointed in how we let them control the game. Some bright spark in the press blamed this on the replacement of Xhaka with Torreira. :hehe:

[IUFG]

Yes Chelsea were probably the better side but they were at home and we missed 2 absolute sitters and at least 2 other very good chances.

BT Sport were getting right on my tits, saying how poor we were defensively yet seemed determined not to mention how many times we cut Chelsea apart down the flanks.

Bellerin should just play on the wing, with the new chap as a RB.

I wouldn't have been surprised if that game finished 5-5.

Mustafi and Xhaka mysteriously still get picked and Bellerin is a shadow of his former self.

Ozil needs a ****ing good shake.

Auba, Mhki and Iwobi all putting over from 6-8 yards :facepalm:

On the ropes a bit in the second half but lots of positives though...
Guendouzi will be quite a player imo

[WES]

I wouldn't have been surprised if that game finished 5-5.

Mustafi and Xhaka mysteriously still get picked and Bellerin is a shadow of his former self.

Ozil needs a ****ing good shake.

Auba, Mhki and Iwobi all putting over from 6-8 yards :facepalm:

On the ropes a bit in the second half but lots of positives though...
Guendouzi will be quite a player imo

Wait for the football intelligentsia to assure us that Ozil was brilliant and mention his running off the ball. Ignore them, he was poor both games and with his talent it really is shocking how peripheral he can be.

As many have said many times, he is the ultimate luxury player, and I'm not convinced we can afford that luxury at this point.

[Billy Goat Sverige]

I called Glenda some very bad names in front of Master WES :nod:

He natters on about how bad we are defensively and how completely outplayed we had been for the first 30 minutes and then goes strangely quiet as we rip them to pieces. No mention of how we dominated them for the last 15-20 minutes of the first half.

Horrible c*nt that he is.

The second half surprised me. Was disappointed in how we let them control the game. Some bright spark in the press blamed this on the replacement of Xhaka with Torreira. :hehe:

Yeah, the Xhaka stuff is funny. We had no control in the first 30 minutes when he was on the pitch but him going off meant we lost control of the midfield :rolleyes: He was mostly rubbish and deserved to be hooked, just as Özil did. We sat deeper in the second half for some reason and let them have the ball. That’s why we lost control of the game.

[WES]

Yeah, the Xhaka stuff is funny. We had no control in the first 30 minutes when he was on the pitch but him going off meant we lost control of the midfield :rolleyes: He was mostly rubbish and deserved to be hooked, just as Özil did. We sat deeper in the second half for some reason and let them have the ball. That’s why we lost control of the game.

The defending for the first goal :hehe:

Be interested to see what Mustafi and Sokratis have to say when Unai asks them why they thought Pedro standing 5 yards goal side of them was a good thing.

Have to say I'm developing man love for Gwen and I thought Mikkie and Iwobi (steady IUFG) had very good games but that's not the best part of the first two games. The best part was watching under-performing players get taken off regardless of who they are and how much they make.

wd Unai :clap:

[PSRB]

The defending for the first goal :hehe:

Be interested to see what Mustafi and Sokratis have to say when Unai asks them why they thought Pedro standing 5 yards goal side of them was a good thing.

Have to say I'm developing man love for Gwen and I thought Mikkie and Iwobi (steady IUFG) had very good games but that's not the best part of the first two games. The best part was watching under-performing players get taken off regardless of who they are and how much they make.

wd Unai :clap:

Thought Sokratis was decent, Bellerin and Mustafi less so. It's also embarrassing trying to watch Cech play out from the back.

In his defence, the BiL told me how Roy Hodgson told the England back 4 that they had to play out from the back, essentially less they be dropped if they booted it long and I assume they have been told the same. Surely, there has to be some element of right time to play long and right time short, as City do?

[SWv2]

Encouraging signs and certainly no need to panic.

Home win this Saturday and we progress.

[PSRB]

Encouraging signs and certainly no need to panic.

Home win this Saturday and we progress.

Pretty much my take on it. 7 or 8 very winnable games coming up. Just need that 1st win and start to build confidence

[WES]

Encouraging signs and certainly no need to panic.

Home win this Saturday and we progress.

Ramsey sold by the end of the month? :rubchin:

Sadly, I can't see there being much interest in him on the continent. I'm guessing if he moves it would be to a PL club.

[SWv2]

Ramsey sold by the end of the month? :rubchin:

Sadly, I can't see there being much interest in him on the continent. I'm guessing if he moves it would be to a PL club.

I expected nothing from these two matches so it starts now.

Would like to see Leno and Torreira more involved from now, they were the real summer investments for the future so I see no point in them sitting out matches. Guendozi has to stay in based on performance so all new in N5.

Yes, 11 days to sell Ramsey abroad.

[redgunamo]

Thought Sokratis was decent, Bellerin and Mustafi less so. It's also embarrassing trying to watch Cech play out from the back.

In his defence, the BiL told me how Roy Hodgson told the England back 4 that they had to play out from the back, essentially less they be dropped if they booted it long and I assume they have been told the same. Surely, there has to be some element of right time to play long and right time short, as City do?

Can't compare us to Manchester City, imo. They score so many goals that the odd mistake or two simply doesn't cost them anything and they know it and their opponents know it too.

Basically, players always want to do things they're actually good at so when you make them do things they're not so good at, they're uncomfortable. But if that's the way the manager wants them to play, they have no choice. He will tolerate their discomfort until such time as he can get "better" players.

[SWv2]

Can't compare us to Manchester City, imo. They score so many goals that the odd mistake or two simply doesn't cost them anything and they know it and their opponents know it too.

Basically, players always want to do things they're actually good at so when you make them do things they're not so good at, they're uncomfortable. But if that's the way the manager wants them to play, they have no choice. He will tolerate their discomfort until such time as he can get "better" players.

Wise words, as ever.

These things take time, he is still working largely with Wenger players and possibly even a Wenger mind set when in the heat of the action.

City are held up as the target to try and replicate and they should be as they are the best in the country, but let us not fool ourselves that they clicked into the superb Guardiola machine they currently are on the day of his arrival. Slowly but surely he got his players into the roles he identified as needing them, supplementing existing players who were of the very highest level. He has replaced the entire back 4 as an example, we have Sokratis.

This is one to just sit back and enjoy the very bumpy ride.

[Tony C]

Garth Crooks spent most of the game venting about Gwen.

Kept accusing him of being to young and inexperienced.

Mind blowing really...even Chelsea fans were impressed with him.

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Just a quick one but Sokratis...this guy is not slow! Would like to see Holding next to him because he will thrive playing alongside a real professional like Sokratis. We need to take advantage of this. Even better if we get Lichsteiner at RB. Holding will have 2 top notch experience pros guiding him.

Bellend on the right wing is interesting and I believe Unai has doubled up full backs before.

[Alberto Balsam Rodriguez]

Wise words, as ever.

These things take time, he is still working largely with Wenger players and possibly even a Wenger mind set when in the heat of the action.

City are held up as the target to try and replicate and they should be as they are the best in the country, but let us not fool ourselves that they clicked into the superb Guardiola machine they currently are on the day of his arrival. Slowly but surely he got his players into the roles he identified as needing them, supplementing existing players who were of the very highest level. He has replaced the entire back 4 as an example, we have Sokratis.

This is one to just sit back and enjoy the very bumpy ride.


It took a year for Pep to mold a group of already talented and highly paid bunch of players. Plus he added a few more. Expecting us to even replicate that in a year is optimistic considering our lack of financial clout and the issues that Emery has inherited. I think it will take 2 seasons for us to get back in the top 4 and we should be happy with that.

[Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult]

Yes Chelsea were probably the better side but they were at home and we missed 2 absolute sitters and at least 2 other very good chances.

BT Sport were getting right on my tits, saying how poor we were defensively yet seemed determined not to mention how many times we cut Chelsea apart down the flanks.

Bellerin should just play on the wing, with the new chap as a RB.

So that would involve dropping Mhikky as right winger where he scored one, made one and should have had more. ok.

[Alberto Balsam Rodriguez]

I expected nothing from these two matches so it starts now.

Would like to see Leno and Torreira more involved from now, they were the real summer investments for the future so I see no point in them sitting out matches. Guendozi has to stay in based on performance so all new in N5.

Yes, 11 days to sell Ramsey abroad.


It seems like we can have a whole sale change in the structure of the club, but some common issues remain. Shouldn't we have got rid of Ramsey 2 weeks ago, if he had not signed an extension? It's Ozil, Sanchez, Walcott, Jack etc all over again. I'm sure, we will learn from this ;-)

[Alberto Balsam Rodriguez]

Pretty much my take on it. 7 or 8 very winnable games coming up. Just need that 1st win and start to build confidence

Looks like a good time to play West Ham?

[PSRB]

So that would involve dropping Mhikky as right winger where he scored one, made one and should have had more. ok.

Where did I say that? I just said Bellerin is not a RB and would perhaps make a better winger.

[Burney]

Yes Chelsea were probably the better side but they were at home and we missed 2 absolute sitters and at least 2 other very good chances.

BT Sport were getting right on my tits, saying how poor we were defensively yet seemed determined not to mention how many times we cut Chelsea apart down the flanks.

Bellerin should just play on the wing, with the new chap as a RB.

Meh. Bag of w@nkers imo.

[Billy Goat Sverige]

So that would involve dropping Mhikky as right winger where he scored one, made one and should have had more. ok.

Also at fault for their first goal and the right side being the main point of attack for Chelsea.

[Tony C]

Shout out to iWobi too...looks like one who will thrive under Emery and Juan Carlos imo

If he can kick on then we’ve got a right weapon of a player imo

[redgunamo]

Where did I say that? I just said Bellerin is not a RB and would perhaps make a better winger.

Not sure he carries enough goal-threat for that either :-\

[PSRB]

Not sure he carries enough goal-threat for that either :-\

His crosses were (for the most part) pretty good. I love the lad but he has just gone backwards, at a rate of knots

[redgunamo]

His crosses were (for the most part) pretty good. I love the lad but he has just gone backwards, at a rate of knots

Sure. Fine, when judged as defender. As an attacker though, a wide-forward or winger, we'd look at it differently. You'd be comparing him to people like Sané at Manchester City, who manages a goal every four or five games, I think :-\

[levancho80]

Would like to see Leno and Torreira more involved from now, they were the real summer investments for the future so I see no point in them sitting out matches. Guendozi has to stay in based on performance so all new in N5.