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Burney
08-07-2018, 01:30 PM
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He knows he's on strong ground with the electorate with this issue and it differentiates him from his leadership rivals and the media, who will all dutifully clutch their pearls and in doing so will only emphasise how far removed from the electorate they are and how close to it Boris is.

It's straight out of the Donald's playbook.

Sir C
08-07-2018, 01:33 PM
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He knows he's on strong ground with the electorate with this issue and it differentiates him from his leadership rivals and the media, who will all dutifully clutch their pearls and in doing so will only emphasise how far removed from the electorate they are and how close to it Boris is.

It's straight out of the Donald's playbook.

It's also designed to remind the membership that Javid is one of they Allans, innit.

Sir C
08-07-2018, 01:36 PM
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He knows he's on strong ground with the electorate with this issue and it differentiates him from his leadership rivals and the media, who will all dutifully clutch their pearls and in doing so will only emphasise how far removed from the electorate they are and how close to it Boris is.

It's straight out of the Donald's playbook.

You'd covered that. I must learn to read properly.

Burney
08-07-2018, 01:37 PM
You'd covered that. I must learn to read properly.

I did. But here for lolz is John Lydon weighing in on the whole 'Is Jezza an anti-semite?' thing.

Spoiler Alert: Yes. Yes, he is. wd jl :hehe:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=LQKEciopuxM&app=desktop

Sir C
08-07-2018, 01:47 PM
I did. But here for lolz is John Lydon weighing in on the whole 'Is Jezza an anti-semite?' thing.

Spoiler Alert: Yes. Yes, he is. wd jl :hehe:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=LQKEciopuxM&app=desktop

:hehe: Thank God he hasn't got all tuneful.

7sisters
08-07-2018, 02:00 PM
Can you imagine him putting out an album of old US crooning classics.. love is a splendid thing, That old black magic, Fly me to the moon, type stuff.


Nope. Neither can I.

Peter
08-07-2018, 02:19 PM
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He knows he's on strong ground with the electorate with this issue and it differentiates him from his leadership rivals and the media, who will all dutifully clutch their pearls and in doing so will only emphasise how far removed from the electorate they are and how close to it Boris is.

It's straight out of the Donald's playbook.

So the question asks 'to what extent' and the outcome is presented as yes or no with a significant percentage missing in each category.

Flawed data.

Burney
08-07-2018, 02:21 PM
So the question asks 'to what extent' and the outcome is presented as yes or no with a significant percentage missing in each category.

Flawed data.

All polling data is flawed. :shrug:

Peter
08-07-2018, 02:24 PM
All polling data is flawed. :shrug:

It is indeed. Which is why it should not be used to judge the views of the electorate.

I sat through a lunch you would have loved today. A load of chinese malaysians telling me that muslims were taking over the UK and that we have no idea what we have done.

I thought of you :)

Burney
08-07-2018, 02:29 PM
It is indeed. Which is why it should not be used to judge the views of the electorate.

I sat through a lunch you would have loved today. A load of chinese malaysians telling me that muslims were taking over the UK and that we have no idea what we have done.

I thought of you :)

They're not wong.

Sir C
08-07-2018, 02:32 PM
It is indeed. Which is why it should not be used to judge the views of the electorate.

I sat through a lunch you would have loved today. A load of chinese malaysians telling me that muslims were taking over the UK and that we have no idea what we have done.

I thought of you :)

They'd sort of, you know, know, wouldn't they? :-(

Burney
08-07-2018, 02:52 PM
They'd sort of, you know, know, wouldn't they? :-(

Here we go. Party Chairman asks Boris to apologise. Boris says: "It is ridiculous that these views are being attacked - we must not fall into the trap of shutting down the debate on difficult issues".

Pretty much exactly as I described the strategy earlier.

AFC East
08-07-2018, 04:00 PM
Here we go. Party Chairman asks Boris to apologise. Boris says: "It is ridiculous that these views are being attacked - we must not fall into the trap of shutting down the debate on difficult issues".

Pretty much exactly as I described the strategy earlier.

If a few more politicians saw your chart the debate would soon open up. Liberalism does get itself in knots about illiberal behaviour. A religion that requires women to almost completely cover themselves is not consistent with Liberal values. So stop defending it....

Peter
08-07-2018, 06:42 PM
They'd sort of, you know, know, wouldn't they? :-(

Sort of, in a way, yes. They moved to a Muslim country and found it was overrun (and run) by Muslims. Outrageous!

redgunamo
08-07-2018, 11:08 PM
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He knows he's on strong ground with the electorate with this issue and it differentiates him from his leadership rivals and the media, who will all dutifully clutch their pearls and in doing so will only emphasise how far removed from the electorate they are and how close to it Boris is.

It's straight out of the Donald's playbook.

Still got his eye on Number 10 then, has he? Yes, I suppose he has.

Burney
08-08-2018, 08:09 AM
Still got his eye on Number 10 then, has he? Yes, I suppose he has.

Oh God, yes. These are the first explicit shots in the leadership challenge.