In my, happily very occasional, dealings with police officers,

[Sir C]

they are invariably polite and respectful. Perhaps not supremely intelligent, but then why would an intelligent person choose such a profession? (I speak not of specialist officers such as Morse, Lewis and Hathaway, of course.)

One chap stopped me in my car recently, apologised profusely for doing so, but claimed that his 'system' told him that my car was uninsured. "Obviously," he said, "it must be a mistake," but he was obliged to check. When I reassured him that I did have the requisite insurance cover, he apologised once more and invited me to get on with my day.

As I drovbe off he saluted.

One suspects that if one is polite but firm when dealing with the constabulary, they, like dogs, understand their social position and treat one accordingly.

[IUFG]

they are invariably polite and respectful. Perhaps not supremely intelligent, but then why would an intelligent person choose such a profession? (I speak not of specialist officers such as Morse, Lewis and Hathaway, of course.)

One chap stopped me in my car recently, apologised profusely for doing so, but claimed that his 'system' told him that my car was uninsured. "Obviously," he said, "it must be a mistake," but he was obliged to check. When I reassured him that I did have the requisite insurance cover, he apologised once more and invited me to get on with my day.

As I drovbe off he saluted.

One suspects that if one is polite but firm when dealing with the constabulary, they, like dogs, understand their social position and treat one accordingly.

his ANPR picked up an uninsured motor vehicle? :sherlock:

was you driving it under your car trader insurance, sc?

[Sir C]

his ANPR picked up an uninsured motor vehicle? :sherlock:

was you driving it under your car trader insurance, sc?

No. The insurance company hadn't updated the system when I changed the registration number.

[Monty92]

they are invariably polite and respectful. Perhaps not supremely intelligent, but then why would an intelligent person choose such a profession? (I speak not of specialist officers such as Morse, Lewis and Hathaway, of course.)

One chap stopped me in my car recently, apologised profusely for doing so, but claimed that his 'system' told him that my car was uninsured. "Obviously," he said, "it must be a mistake," but he was obliged to check. When I reassured him that I did have the requisite insurance cover, he apologised once more and invited me to get on with my day.

As I drovbe off he saluted.

One suspects that if one is polite but firm when dealing with the constabulary, they, like dogs, understand their social position and treat one accordingly.

#Whiteprivilege :rolleyes:

[IUFG]

No. The insurance company hadn't updated the system when I changed the registration number.

ah! so how did you have proof of insurance?

you slipped the copper a monkey, didn't you...

[Sir C]

#Whiteprivilege :rolleyes:

What are you doing to build bridges with Our Jeremy, who is, of course, the victim here?

[Sir C]

ah! so how did you have proof of insurance?

you slipped the copper a monkey, didn't you...

No, I simply explained the situation to him. He clearly saw no reason to question the word of a gentleman.

[Monty92]

What are you doing to build bridges with Our Jeremy, who is, of course, the victim here?

I must say I am distinctly uncomfortable with this whole business.

"Existential threat"? Really?

I fear the Jewishers have over played their hand and are going to end up losing sympathy now.

[IUFG]

No, I simply explained the situation to him. He clearly saw no reason to question the word of a gentleman.

leave it out.

I've seen them documentaries on C5. They'd have had you in a near fatal choke hold the second you reached for your documents.

[Sir C]

I must say I am distinctly uncomfortable with this whole business.

"Existential threat"? Really?

I fear the Jewishers have over played their hand and are going to end up losing sympathy now.

You shouldn't be. This is how they get their way. They chip, chip, chip away at accepted norms until the unconscionable view becomes valid and acceptable for debate. They're currently doing it with jewhating and communism. They have recently done it with such matters as men being married to men, or women being married to women - then it was men becoming women by the magical method of simply calling themselves women. Insanity becomes an accepted norm.

In this matter they are assisted by useful idiots such as yourself, of course.

[Burney]

I must say I am distinctly uncomfortable with this whole business.

"Existential threat"? Really?

I fear the Jewishers have over played their hand and are going to end up losing sympathy now.

You've been gaslighted, mate. Can you seriously imagine a situation in which any other minority ethnic group would be told they have to meet their racist abusers half way in order to achieve resolution? Of course not. It would be unthinkable in any other case than anti-semitism - which should tell you that there's something funny going on here. What you're doing here is falling for their attempt to make anti-semitism a special kind of racism that isn't really racism.

[Sir C]

leave it out.

I've seen them documentaries on C5. They'd have had you in a near fatal choke hold the second you reached for your documents.

I wasn't driving a 10 year old Beemer with loud music issuing forth, i.

[SWv2]

they are invariably polite and respectful. Perhaps not supremely intelligent, but then why would an intelligent person choose such a profession? (I speak not of specialist officers such as Morse, Lewis and Hathaway, of course.)

One chap stopped me in my car recently, apologised profusely for doing so, but claimed that his 'system' told him that my car was uninsured. "Obviously," he said, "it must be a mistake," but he was obliged to check. When I reassured him that I did have the requisite insurance cover, he apologised once more and invited me to get on with my day.

As I drovbe off he saluted.

One suspects that if one is polite but firm when dealing with the constabulary, they, like dogs, understand their social position and treat one accordingly.

I have had various dealings with them over the years and always found the Met (and indeed all UK based law enforcement agencies for that matter) to be absolute ****s of the very highest order, the ones in Margate 1994 being especially deserving of this award.

On one occasion I even had the terrible misfortune of socialising with one off-duty and I think he was possibly even more arrogant and rude then.

The RUC were always ****s but this was during the so called Troubles so it was their job to be so.

The Irish ones, An Garda Siochana, are just useless and lazy and quite thick. I expect Sir C will use this to make a sweeping generalisation about all people on this island.

[Peter]

You've been gaslighted, mate. Can you seriously imagine a situation in which any other minority ethnic group would be told they have to meet their racist abusers half way in order to achieve resolution? Of course not. It would be unthinkable in any other case than anti-semitism - which should tell you that there's something funny going on here. What you're doing here is falling for their attempt to make anti-semitism a special kind of racism that isn't really racism.

Well it does have its own word, doesnt it. It IS different from other racisms.....

Naturally, I oppose all racisms, even against nasty people.

[Burney]

Well it does have its own word, doesnt it. It IS different from other racisms.....

Naturally, I oppose all racisms, even against nasty people.

How is it different? Other than having a 2,000 year history, I mean?

[Sir C]

I have had various dealings with them over the years and always found the Met (and indeed all UK based law enforcement agencies for that matter) to be absolute ****s of the very highest order, the ones in Margate 1994 being especially deserving of this award.

On one occasion I even had the terrible misfortune of socialising with one off-duty and I think he was possibly even more arrogant and rude then.

The RUC were always ****s but this was during the so called Troubles so it was their job to be so.

The Irish ones, An Garda Siochana, are just useless and lazy and quite thick. I expect Sir C will use this to make a sweeping generalisation about all people on this island.

One can understand the frustration of police officers in the UK having to deal with immigrants from the third world though, can't you? You no spikka da proper English, can't read or sign a statement, probably carry bizarre diseases... no, I don't fancy it personally.

[Monty92]

You shouldn't be. This is how they get their way. They chip, chip, chip away at accepted norms until the unconscionable view becomes valid and acceptable for debate. They're currently doing it with jewhating and communism. They have recently done it with such matters as men being married to men, or women being married to women - then it was men becoming women by the magical method of simply calling themselves women. Insanity becomes an accepted norm.

In this matter they are assisted by useful idiots such as yourself, of course.

Ok, perhaps I mean I don't feel they've played their hand effectively.

The focus of their argument is that criticism of Israel can too easily slide into anti-semitism and that Corbyn is unwilling to tackle this. This is of course true, but it's also true that, for example, criticism of immigration can often slide into far right racism. Yet our tolerance of criticism of immigration seems to be far higher than it is of criticism of Israel. This to me is an unavoidable double standard.

And yet in Corbyn we have a man who has persistently throughout his life supported and defended people with the most disgusting anti-semitic views. He's also a man who recently sacked an MP for pointing out the fact that child rape gangs in this country have a cultural and ethnic common denominator.

Yet the focus seems to be on that very narrow point about criticism of Israel, rather than the far more damning evidence of Corbyn's dubious character, and that isn't actually going to have any effect.

[Monty92]

You've been gaslighted, mate. Can you seriously imagine a situation in which any other minority ethnic group would be told they have to meet their racist abusers half way in order to achieve resolution? Of course not. It would be unthinkable in any other case than anti-semitism - which should tell you that there's something funny going on here. What you're doing here is falling for their attempt to make anti-semitism a special kind of racism that isn't really racism.

We say that all the time about the Allans. That they should meet people half-way :shrug:

Anyway, see my reply to Charlie below.

[Peter]

How is it different? Other than having a 2,000 year history, I mean?

Exactly. It pre-dates racism and has its own word.

Naturally, I find it just as appalling as any other form of racism. I find all racism appalling.

I am appalled by it.

[Viva Prat Vegas]

Sir C "No. The insurance company hadn't updated the system when I changed the registration number."

Is it personalised ?
:-(

[Viva Prat Vegas]

Peter "Naturally, I find it just as appalling as any other form of racism. I find all racism appalling.

I am appalled by it."

Just in cast that persecuting Plod's looking in
:-)

[Sir C]

Ok, perhaps I mean I don't feel they've played their hand effectively.

The focus of their argument is that criticism of Israel can too easily slide into anti-semitism and that Corbyn is unwilling to tackle this. This is of course true, but it's also true that, for example, criticism of immigration can often slide into far right racism. Yet our tolerance of criticism of immigration seems to be far higher than it is of criticism of Israel. This to me is an unavoidable double standard.

And yet in Corbyn we have a man who has persistently throughout his life supported and defended people with the most disgusting anti-semitic views. He's also a man who recently sacked an MP for pointing out the fact that child rape gangs in this country have a cultural and ethnic common denominator.

Yet the focus seems to be on that very narrow point about criticism of Israel, rather than the far more damning evidence of Corbyn's dubious character, and that isn't actually going to have any effect.

I agree that the criticism of Israel issue is an unwelcome distraction, but it's the only really concrete point the jews have to argue. Watering down the internationally recognised definition of anti-semitism is a clear and obvious danger to jews; Corbyn having tea with any number of filthy individuals can be glossed over.

[Burney]

We say that all the time about the Allans. That they should meet people half-way :shrug:

Anyway, see my reply to Charlie below.

Asking people to observe the laws and customs of the country to which they have immigrated is not 'asking people to meet you half way', it should be a basic requirement of any immigrant. No-one is ever expects muslims to accept racist abuse.

Jews, on the other hand, are being expected to tolerate actual racist abuse of them because Israel.

[Burney]

Exactly. It pre-dates racism and has its own word.

Naturally, I find it just as appalling as any other form of racism. I find all racism appalling.

I am appalled by it.

It doesn't pre-date racism, it's just one of the oldest types of it. If you don't mind me saying, p, the fact that you are even quibbling about its nature as racism rather exemplifies the point.

[Burney]

I agree that the criticism of Israel issue is an unwelcome distraction, but it's the only really concrete point the jews have to argue. Watering down the internationally recognised definition of anti-semitism is a clear and obvious danger to jews; Corbyn having tea with any number of filthy individuals can be glossed over.

Correct. There is only one possible reason to adjust that definition of anti-semitism and that is to allow your members to transgress it. In other words, you are redefining anti-semitism in order to give yourself room to be anti-semitic.

This point isn't being made hard or often enough.

[IUFG]

Is it personalised ?
:-(

oh dear, oh dear...

[Sir C]

Sir C "No. The insurance company hadn't updated the system when I changed the registration number."

Is it personalised ?
:-(

It is what we call in the trade a 'cherished number', s. And it is indeed cherished. It was a gift to me from my father on my 21st birthday. It's a lovely number plate. I always have it on my special occasion car. It's a sort of tradition.

[IUFG]

It is what we call in the trade a 'cherished number', s. And it is indeed cherished. It was a gift to me from my father on my 21st birthday. It's a lovely number plate. I always have it on my special occasion car. It's a sort of tradition.

is it PEN 15 ?

[Sir C]

is it PEN 15 ?

Oddly enough, no. That would be a strange gift from a father to his son.

[Burney]

It is what we call in the trade a 'cherished number', s. And it is indeed cherished. It was a gift to me from my father on my 21st birthday. It's a lovely number plate. I always have it on my special occasion car. It's a sort of tradition.

:nod: And it has the letters 'VD' in it. :snigger:

There used to be lots of jokes about VD when we were younger, didn't there? The acronym STI just isn't as funny.

[SWv2]

It is what we call in the trade a 'cherished number', s. And it is indeed cherished. It was a gift to me from my father on my 21st birthday. It's a lovely number plate. I always have it on my special occasion car. It's a sort of tradition.

Your old man gave you a number plate?

I would have clubbed him round the fúcking head with it.

[Sir C]

Your old man gave you a number plate?

I would have clubbed him round the fúcking head with it.

That is because you are a savage, sw. But you can't help that. It will take 2,000 years of education to civilise your sort. :-(

[Sir C]

:nod: And it has the letters 'VD' in it. :snigger:

There used to be lots of jokes about VD when we were younger, didn't there? The acronym STI just isn't as funny.

I certainly didn't find anything funny about STI when I saw your mum's results from the clinic :-(

[IUFG]

:nod: And it has the letters 'VD' in it. :snigger:

There used to be lots of jokes about VD when we were younger, didn't there? The acronym STI just isn't as funny.

They even stick it on Subarus nowadays.
Not that they'll be any new ones sold in the UK any longer . . .

[Burney]

I certainly didn't find anything funny about STI when I saw your mum's results from the clinic :-(

It's true, though, isn't it? They change all the amusing medical terms. Like 'spastic'. 'Spastic' is funny. Saying 'You're a spastic' is amusing. Saying 'You have cerebral palsy' sounds like a diagnosis.

[Viva Prat Vegas]

We used to have a toilet at school with a sign on the door which said "Invalids"

[Sir C]

It's true, though, isn't it? They change all the amusing medical terms. Like 'spastic'. 'Spastic' is funny. Saying 'You're a spastic' is amusing. Saying 'You have cerebral palsy' sounds like a diagnosis.

'VD' isn't funny per se, though. Not like clap, pox or dose.

[Burney]

'VD' isn't funny per se, though. Not like clap, pox or dose.

:nod: Or 'crotchrot'

[Sir C]

:nod: Or 'crotchrot'

Or 'cauliflower-like warts up and down my fúcking shaft, man!' :-(

[PSRB]

they are invariably polite and respectful. Perhaps not supremely intelligent, but then why would an intelligent person choose such a profession? (I speak not of specialist officers such as Morse, Lewis and Hathaway, of course.)

One chap stopped me in my car recently, apologised profusely for doing so, but claimed that his 'system' told him that my car was uninsured. "Obviously," he said, "it must be a mistake," but he was obliged to check. When I reassured him that I did have the requisite insurance cover, he apologised once more and invited me to get on with my day.

As I drovbe off he saluted.

One suspects that if one is polite but firm when dealing with the constabulary, they, like dogs, understand their social position and treat one accordingly.

Ended up buying a 15 plate A5 S Line Sportback 2.0 TDI, I expect to be told that was a poor choice but I'm really rather liking it.

[Burney]

Or 'cauliflower-like warts up and down my fúcking shaft, man!' :-(

The first time you see genital warts in the flesh can be profoundly alarming, can't it? I saw my first set on a bloke called Colin who ended up being a copper. He seemed quite proud of them.

[IUFG]

The first time you see genital warts in the flesh can be profoundly alarming, can't it? I saw my first set on a bloke called Colin who ended up being a copper. He seemed quite proud of them.

whoooah there, b...

[Burney]

whoooah there, b...

What? :shrug:

[IUFG]

The first time you see genital warts in the flesh can be profoundly alarming, can't it? I saw my first set on a bloke called Colin who ended up being a copper. He seemed quite proud of them.

I expecting you to name some young girl when you first encountered them.

Not some bloke named Colin.

In what sort of situation were you and Colin in, when he broke your genital wart virginity, so to speak?

[Sir C]

The first time you see genital warts in the flesh can be profoundly alarming, can't it? I saw my first set on a bloke called Colin who ended up being a copper. He seemed quite proud of them.

Yes, a chum of mine had them lasered off, which left him with two Japs' eyes. (Jap's eyes?) He could, quite literally, píss in stereo.

[Sir C]

I expecting you to name some young girl when you first encountered them.

Not some bloke named Colin.

In what sort of situation were you and Colin in, when he broke your genital wart virginity, so to speak?

Hold on, hold on. Are you saying that if you developed a fine set of genital warts, you wouldn't immediately show your mate?

Oddball.

[Burney]

I expecting you to name some young girl when you first encountered them.

Not some bloke named Colin.

In what sort of situation were you and Colin in, when he broke your genital wart virginity, so to speak?

It was in the kitchen of our student flat. None of us had ever seen them before, so he whipped it out for our education. I don't think it was his first time doing so.

He wasn't exactly a refined man, Colin. He claimed to have taken a sh1t in The History of Pakistan in the University library, closed it and put it back on the shelf. :-(

[IUFG]

It was in the kitchen of our student flat. None of us had ever seen them before, so he whipped it out for our education. I don't think it was his first time doing so.

He wasn't exactly a refined man, Colin. He claimed to have taken a sh1t in The History of Pakistan in the University library, closed it and put it back on the shelf. :-(

Side question: what was Colin's subject?

[Burney]

Side question: what was Colin's subject?

Geography, I think.

[IUFG]

Hold on, hold on. Are you saying that if you developed a fine set of genital warts, you wouldn't immediately show your mate?

Oddball.

I went to a council estate comprehensive, pal. Not some private boarding school.

That sort of behaviour would have had me branded a 'bender' and I would have received a daily beating.
So no, my natural reaction to receiving a dose would not have been to show it to another bloke...

[IUFG]

Geography, I think.

enough said

[Burney]

I went to a council estate comprehensive, pal. Not some private boarding school.

That sort of behaviour would have had me branded a 'bender' and I would have received a daily beating.
So no, my natural reaction to receiving a dose would not have been to show it to another bloke...

When did chaps get all shy about seeing each others' knobs? I put it down to not playing enough sport.

[IUFG]

When did chaps get all shy about seeing each others' knobs? I put it down to not playing enough sport.

A shower after a football match is respectfully manly, b.

Asking another bloke to take a close inspection of one's todger falls somewhat short of that expected standard.

[Sir C]

I went to a council estate comprehensive, pal. Not some private boarding school.

That sort of behaviour would have had me branded a 'bender' and I would have received a daily beating.
So no, my natural reaction to receiving a dose would not have been to show it to another bloke...

You've never been on a rugby tour, have you? :-(

[IUFG]

You've never been on a rugby tour, have you? :-(

Never.

Rugby? A sport for píss drinking *****

I once went on a football tour to Holland. A stripper in Maastricht did unspeakable things to and at our goalkeeper in the clubhouse bar.

the stripper was female btw

[Burney]

You've never been on a rugby tour, have you? :-(

:hehe: I remember a Polaroid of a chum of mine who'd passed out drunk on such an occasion that showed him with his teammates' genitals resting on his face.

[Sir C]

Never.

Rugby? A sport for píss drinking *****

I once went on a football tour to Holland. A stripper in Maastricht did unspeakable things to and at our goalkeeper in the clubhouse bar.

the stripper was female btw

There are ****s who play rugby just as there are ****s who play football, i.

Don't get caught in a generalisation trap, for that is simple bigotry.

[IUFG]

There are ****s who play rugby just as there are ****s who play football, i.

Don't get caught in a generalisation trap, for that is simple bigotry.

My recollection of the rugby boys is one of drinking games (usually involving urine at some point), song singing and heemasexual acts during some kind of bizarre initiation ceremonies.

Us footballers tended to stick to the alcohol, girls and non-performance enhancers.

[Burney]

My recollection of the rugby boys is one of drinking games (usually involving urine at some point), song singing and heemasexual acts during some kind of bizarre initiation ceremonies.

Us footballers tended to stick to the alcohol, girls and non-performance enhancers.

:nono: It's only gay if you enjoy it, i.

[Sir C]

My recollection of the rugby boys is one of drinking games (usually involving urine at some point), song singing and heemasexual acts during some kind of bizarre initiation ceremonies.

Us footballers tended to stick to the alcohol, girls and non-performance enhancers.

Hmm. I grew up playing rugby and saw a lot of drinking (but only one incident of the beverage being urine), lots of excellent singing, and no homosexual behaviour whatsoever. NTTAWWI.

You're sure you're not simply projecting your desires to be taken roughly from behind by a 19 stone prop forward?

[IUFG]

You're sure you're not simply projecting your desires to be taken roughly from behind by a 19 stone prop forward?

Of that I am absolutely positive, sc.



Not sure my back and knees would cope nowadays anyway ;-)