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Burney
07-19-2018, 09:08 AM
allowed to fly over Irish airspace. :hehe:

There are a few issues with that, Leo:

The legal:The right to fly over Irish airspace is guaranteed by a treaty to which Ireland is a signatory and which has nothing to do with the EU
The economic: The damage to Ireland's economy and access to Europe from such a move would be much, much greater than that to the UK's
The practical: There is literally no means of enforcing this. Ireland's airspace is only guaranteed by the protection offered by the RAF, since Ireland has no air-to-air combat capability and what combat aircraft it has couldn't even reach a commercial airliner, let alone keep up with it. Presumably, Leo envisages that we will maintain our defence of his country's airspace while having our aircraft banned from it?

Grandstanding fvcking clown.

eastgermanautos
07-19-2018, 09:09 AM
allowed to fly over Irish airspace. :hehe:

There are a few issues with that, Leo:

The legal:The right to fly over Irish airspace is guaranteed by a treaty to which Ireland is a signatory and which has nothing to do with the EU
The economic: The damage to Ireland's economy and access to Europe from such a move would be much, much greater than that to the UK's
The practical: There is literally no means of enforcing this. Ireland's airspace is only guaranteed by the protection offered by the RAF, since they have no air-to-air combat capability and what combat aircraft they have couldn't even reach a commercial airliner, let alone keep up with it. Presumably, Leo envisages that we will maintain our defence of his country's airspace while having our aircraft banned from it?

Grandstanding fvcking clown.

How the fvck do you know all this sh!t?

IUFG
07-19-2018, 09:27 AM
allowed to fly over Irish airspace. :hehe:

There are a few issues with that, Leo:

The legal:The right to fly over Irish airspace is guaranteed by a treaty to which Ireland is a signatory and which has nothing to do with the EU
The economic: The damage to Ireland's economy and access to Europe from such a move would be much, much greater than that to the UK's
The practical: There is literally no means of enforcing this. Ireland's airspace is only guaranteed by the protection offered by the RAF, since Ireland has no air-to-air combat capability and what combat aircraft it has couldn't even reach a commercial airliner, let alone keep up with it. Presumably, Leo envisages that we will maintain our defence of his country's airspace while having our aircraft banned from it?

Grandstanding fvcking clown.

around 75% of all transatlantic flights cross through Irish airspace.

the Taoiseach could monitor which ones are from the UK and which ones are not via an app on his phone.
and then have the ability and / or resources to do exactly fúck all about it.

Sir C
07-19-2018, 09:37 AM
around 75% of all transatlantic flights cross through Irish airspace.

the Taoiseach could monitor which ones are from the UK and which ones are not via an app on his phone.
and then have the ability and / or resources to do exactly fúck all about it.

Did you know that if you own your house, you own the land it is built on, the structure, and the sky directly above it, but not the ground beneath - so if you strike oil in your back garden, it doesn't belong to you, but the crown.

I read that on the internet so it must be true.

Burney
07-19-2018, 09:39 AM
around 75% of all transatlantic flights cross through Irish airspace.

the Taoiseach could monitor which ones are from the UK and which ones are not via an app on his phone.
and then have the ability and / or resources to do exactly fúck all about it.

Not entirely fair, iufg. He could go out into his back garden and shake his fist at the sky.

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Pokster
07-19-2018, 09:40 AM
Did you know that if you own your house, you own the land it is built on, the structure, and the sky directly above it, but not the ground beneath - so if you strike oil in your back garden, it doesn't belong to you, but the crown.

I read that on the internet so it must be true.

I knew about the bit above it...some Churches in new York used to sell the area above their church to constructors who could then tfr ownership to their land and enable them to build higher than perviosuly allowed

Burney
07-19-2018, 09:41 AM
Did you know that if you own your house, you own the land it is built on, the structure, and the sky directly above it, but not the ground beneath - so if you strike oil in your back garden, it doesn't belong to you, but the crown.

I read that on the internet so it must be true.

Where does one's ownership of the sky above one end? Presumably at the stratosphere. Otherwise, given the motion of the spheres, we would all effectively have timeshare ownership of Saturn, the Moon, etc?

Sir C
07-19-2018, 09:44 AM
allowed to fly over Irish airspace. :hehe:

There are a few issues with that, Leo:

The legal:The right to fly over Irish airspace is guaranteed by a treaty to which Ireland is a signatory and which has nothing to do with the EU
The economic: The damage to Ireland's economy and access to Europe from such a move would be much, much greater than that to the UK's
The practical: There is literally no means of enforcing this. Ireland's airspace is only guaranteed by the protection offered by the RAF, since Ireland has no air-to-air combat capability and what combat aircraft it has couldn't even reach a commercial airliner, let alone keep up with it. Presumably, Leo envisages that we will maintain our defence of his country's airspace while having our aircraft banned from it?

Grandstanding fvcking clown.

They have several Cessna 172s, apparently. Flat out at 120 kt, they could definitely trouble a 787 doing 500 kt 38,000 ft above them.

Definitely.

Sir C
07-19-2018, 09:45 AM
Where does one's ownership of the sky above one end? Presumably at the stratosphere. Otherwise, given the motion of the spheres, we would all effectively have timeshare ownership of Saturn, the Moon, etc?

Do I look like the ******* offspring of Perry Mason and Patrick Moore, b?

Sir C
07-19-2018, 09:46 AM
I knew about the bit above it...some Churches in new York used to sell the area above their church to constructors who could then tfr ownership to their land and enable them to build higher than perviosuly allowed

You can't own air. I won't have it.

Pokster
07-19-2018, 09:47 AM
You can't own air. I won't have it.

I don't own any air :bald:

Sir C
07-19-2018, 09:49 AM
I don't own any air :bald:

I've developed quite the sunroof, I don't think I'm far behind you.

I considered a Rooney-style transplant, but it's ever so expensive.

Burney
07-19-2018, 09:54 AM
They have several Cessna 172s, apparently. Flat out at 120 kt, they could definitely trouble a 787 doing 500 kt 38,000 ft above them.

Definitely.

They have 8 Pilatus PC-9s. They can reach 24,000ft and achieve 275 knots. So they could be a bit of a worry if you were coming into land, I suppose.

Burney
07-19-2018, 09:54 AM
You can't own air. I won't have it.

Communist.

Burney
07-19-2018, 09:56 AM
I've developed quite the sunroof, I don't think I'm far behind you.

I considered a Rooney-style transplant, but it's ever so expensive.

Bloke in our office sprays some stuff on his head in a vain attempt to pretend he's not bald. Every morning he comes into the office his 'hair' is in a different shape to the last depending on how he's sprayed it. It's very funny. He is easily the most widely mocked man in the company.

Sir C
07-19-2018, 10:13 AM
Bloke in our office sprays some stuff on his head in a vain attempt to pretend he's not bald. Every morning he comes into the office his 'hair' is in a different shape to the last depending on how he's sprayed it. It's very funny. He is easily the most widely mocked man in the company.

Spray on stuff, you say? I'll get me some of that action.

Burney
07-19-2018, 10:14 AM
Spray on stuff, you say? I'll get me some of that action.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GeF7A05zQ8

Sir C
07-19-2018, 10:17 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GeF7A05zQ8

That's the stuff for me.

I considered shaving the whole lot off, but I'd look retarded, like Phil Senderos :-(

Burney
07-19-2018, 10:24 AM
That's the stuff for me.

I considered shaving the whole lot off, but I'd look retarded, like Phil Senderos :-(

I'm terrified of ever being bald due to having a large head. My head makes sense with hair on it. Without hair, I'd look fvcking horrific.

Sir C
07-19-2018, 10:27 AM
I'm terrified of ever being bald due to having a large head. My head makes sense with hair on it. Without hair, I'd look fvcking horrific.

I suppose one just becomes accustomed to it. It might get a little tedious having people back away from you in the street and alarmed children bursting into tears at the sight of one's enormous, knobbly dome, but hey ho.

Burney
07-19-2018, 10:29 AM
I suppose one just becomes accustomed to it. It might get a little tedious having people back away from you in the street and alarmed children bursting into tears at the sight of one's enormous, knobbly dome, but hey ho.

I really think you oughtn't to be showing children your enormous, knobbly dome, tbh. :-(

Herbert Augustus Chapman
07-19-2018, 11:30 AM
How the fvck do you know all this sh!t?

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Herbert Augustus Chapman
07-19-2018, 11:31 AM
They have several Cessna 172s, apparently. Flat out at 120 kt, they could definitely trouble a 787 doing 500 kt 38,000 ft above them.

Definitely.

You're Irish c. Surely you'd lend them your little Chipmunk?

barrybueno
07-19-2018, 11:44 AM
allowed to fly over Irish airspace. :hehe:

There are a few issues with that, Leo:

The legal:The right to fly over Irish airspace is guaranteed by a treaty to which Ireland is a signatory and which has nothing to do with the EU
The economic: The damage to Ireland's economy and access to Europe from such a move would be much, much greater than that to the UK's
The practical: There is literally no means of enforcing this. Ireland's airspace is only guaranteed by the protection offered by the RAF, since Ireland has no air-to-air combat capability and what combat aircraft it has couldn't even reach a commercial airliner, let alone keep up with it. Presumably, Leo envisages that we will maintain our defence of his country's airspace while having our aircraft banned from it?

Grandstanding fvcking clown.

The Micks will laser pen our jets down B, lethal they are :-(

Ash
07-19-2018, 11:45 AM
Did you know that if you own your house, you own the land it is built on, the structure, and the sky directly above it, but not the ground beneath - so if you strike oil in your back garden, it doesn't belong to you, but the crown.

I read that on the internet so it must be true.

If we owned the ground beneath I could theoretically patrol my section of the Northern Line with a shotgun shouting "get orf moi land!" at passing trains.

Burney
07-19-2018, 11:46 AM
If we owned the ground beneath I could theoretically patrol my section of the Northern Line with a shotgun shouting "get orf moi land!" at passing trains.

The irony of which being that that wouldn't make you the maddest or most threatening man on the Northern Line. You'd barely make the top 10, in fact.

Ash
07-19-2018, 11:47 AM
Where does one's ownership of the sky above one end? Presumably at the stratosphere. Otherwise, given the motion of the spheres, we would all effectively have timeshare ownership of Saturn, the Moon, etc?

:nono: Outer space belongs to Uncle Sam. He said so.

Burney
07-19-2018, 11:51 AM
:nono: Outer space belongs to Uncle Sam. He said so.

Did the 1967 Outer Space Treaty not make it clear that it is the province of all mankind? Which may, of course, come as something of a surprise to anything else that may be living out there, but hey.

Ash
07-19-2018, 11:56 AM
Did the 1967 Outer Space Treaty not make it clear that it is the province of all mankind? Which may, of course, come as something of a surprise to anything else that may be living out there, but hey.

Treaties. :hehe:

"It was a bad deal."

Herbert Augustus Chapman
07-19-2018, 12:09 PM
The irony of which being that that wouldn't make you the maddest or most threatening man on the Northern Line. You'd barely make the top 10, in fact.

Whenever I am forced to travel the Northern Line, I prowl up and down the carriages bellowing into passenger's faces that I have an atom bomb in my pocket and they must pay for having murdered my mother.

I learned a long time ago there is only ever one nutter on any train so to avoid the nutter on the train, one must simpy be the nutter on the train.

IUFG
07-19-2018, 12:17 PM
Whenever I am forced to travel the Northern Line, I prowl up and down the carriages bellowing into passenger's faces that I have an atom bomb in my pocket and they must pay for having murdered my mother.

I learned a long time ago there is only ever one nutter on any train so to avoid the nutter on the train, one must simpy be the nutter on the train.

I walked into bloke on a corner at Kentish Town station a couple of years back.

We both checked our pockets before walking off.

Well, he looked like the nutter...

Ash
07-19-2018, 12:41 PM
I walked into bloke on a corner at Kentish Town station a couple of years back.

We both checked our pockets before walking off.

Well, he looked like the nutter...

It's actually quite hard not to bump into people around Kentish Town station. Someone thought it a good idea to put a station entrance, a bus stop and a fruit 'n veg stall all on the same bit of pavement.