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Luis Anaconda
06-29-2018, 01:18 PM
every fecking shot back into the centre of the penalty area even when trajectory of said shot would make it easier to get away from goal. Some skill, possibly not a desirable one in England's No 1

IUFG
06-29-2018, 01:23 PM
every fecking shot back into the centre of the penalty area even when trajectory of said shot would make it easier to get away from goal. Some skill, possibly not a desirable one in England's No 1

I appreciate he may be left handed but that attempt at a save for the goal was well below average.

And not gathering the ball properly when it was kicked off the line :nono: ( I understand it my have been a free kick, but he never had the ball secured).

He's just not that good.

Luis Anaconda
06-29-2018, 01:24 PM
I appreciate he may be left handed but that attempt at a save for the goal was well below average.

And not gathering the ball properly when it was kicked off the line :nono: ( I understand it my have been a free kick, but he never had the ball secured).

He's just not that good.
He's still learning, talented but he has an obvious weakness (although I think it might be harsh to blame him for the goal). Funnily enough some 'tards on here thought we should have spunked 30 million on him last summer

SWv2
06-29-2018, 01:26 PM
I appreciate he may be left handed but that attempt at a save for the goal was well below average.

And not gathering the ball properly when it was kicked off the line :nono: ( I understand it my have been a free kick, but he never had the ball secured).

He's just not that good.

On an entirely neutral level it was quite alarming to see how poor the second string were last evening.

Of course players cannot just turn it on and off at the drop of a hat, as such, however none really did much to push their case for selection. Was I correct when I heard Trent Darby getting MOTM?

Thought the Belgies was clearly much better.

Perhaps this was Gareth's master plan.

Burney
06-29-2018, 01:27 PM
every fecking shot back into the centre of the penalty area even when trajectory of said shot would make it easier to get away from goal. Some skill, possibly not a desirable one in England's No 1

Because he is properly shít, la. Peter Shilton must be turning in his grave.

But anyway, surely the best thing last night was watching Phil Jones careering around the pitch randomly clattering into people like a pinball with Down’s Syndrome? Lord, how I laughed.

Luis Anaconda
06-29-2018, 01:27 PM
On an entirely neutral level it was quite alarming to see how poor the second string were last evening.

Of course players cannot just turn it on and off at the drop of a hat, as such, however none really did much to push their case for selection. Was I correct when I heard Trent Darby getting MOTM?

Thought the Belgies was clearly much better.

Perhaps this was Gareth's master plan.

Eric Dier ffs - Eric Dier

Luis Anaconda
06-29-2018, 01:28 PM
Because he is properly shít, la. Peter Shilton must be turning in his grave.

But anyway, surely the best thing last night was watching Phil Jones careering around the pitch randomly clattering into people like a pinball with Down’s Syndrome? Lord, how I laughed.
:hehe: Bravo, b, bravo

SWv2
06-29-2018, 01:29 PM
Eric Dier ffs - Eric Dier

Indeed it is quite a challenge and achievement to make Jordan Henderson appear good but Dier carried this off with aplomb.

There was one moment second half when Rose took a clever quick free into Danny who controlled it first time, into the upper tier it has to be said but still. I smiled, because he is our Danny.

Burney
06-29-2018, 01:32 PM
:hehe: Bravo, b, bravo

ty la. I’m ashamed to say I made myself laugh with that one.

IUFG
06-29-2018, 01:32 PM
He's still learning, talented but he has an obvious weakness (although I think it might be harsh to blame him for the goal). Funnily enough some 'tards on here thought we should have spunked 30 million on him last summer

I think it was a good finish by Yanuzeye, but can't help feeling that Pickford would have had a better chance if he'd have led with his right hand.

You're right, he's only young.

Currently, he's no better (or worse) than, say, Sir Chesney.

Sir C
06-29-2018, 01:34 PM
ty la. I’m ashamed to say I made myself laugh with that one.

It was rather good.

Burney
06-29-2018, 01:35 PM
Indeed it is quite a challenge and achievement to make Jordan Henderson appear good but Dier carried this off with aplomb.

There was one moment second half when Rose took a clever quick free into Danny who controlled it first time, into the upper tier it has to be said but still. I smiled, because he is our Danny.

I’m increasingly starting to believe that the whole purpose of last night was to make the first team feel better about themselves. Shrood tactics if so.

My favourite bit is England fans saying ‘We’ll be back with our first team whilst apparently failing to note that Belgium left Hazard and De Bruyne on the bench :hehe:

WES
06-29-2018, 01:37 PM
Indeed it is quite a challenge and achievement to make Jordan Henderson appear good but Dier carried this off with aplomb.

There was one moment second half when Rose took a clever quick free into Danny who controlled it first time, into the upper tier it has to be said but still. I smiled, because he is our Danny.

Careful, our genius, foreign ex-manager was only just the other day waxing prophetic on Dier. I must say, I have never seen anything from the lad that makes me think he is anything other than average on his best days when played in the correct position.

I like Pickford, does some things very well and the things he doesn't seem very correctable. Dangerous game slating young keepers, they have a tendency to get better with age.

Sir C
06-29-2018, 01:37 PM
every fecking shot back into the centre of the penalty area even when trajectory of said shot would make it easier to get away from goal. Some skill, possibly not a desirable one in England's No 1

May we discuss goalkeepers in general, though?

I appreciate that I am very old, but back in my day, goalkeepers used to have this bizarre and amazing trick.

They used to catch the ball. Just like that. Come for a cross, catch the ball. Dive for a shot, catch the ball.

We used to laugh at foreign (scotch) goalies who did ridiculous things like punching the ball. Why would you want potentially to give the ball back to the opposition, when you can just catch it and have solid phase one possession?

I spend about 10% of my football watching screaming 'JUST CATCH THE FÚCKING BALL!' :shrug:

SWv2
06-29-2018, 01:38 PM
I’m increasingly starting to believe that the whole purpose of last night was to make the first team feel better about themselves. Shrood tactics if so.

My favourite bit is England fans saying ‘We’ll be back with our first team whilst apparently failing to note that Belgium left Hazard and De Bruyne on the bench :hehe:

The band were very annoying, even from Dublin 16.

Luis Anaconda
06-29-2018, 01:40 PM
May we discuss goalkeepers in general, though?

I appreciate that I am very old, but back in my day, goalkeepers used to have this bizarre and amazing trick.

They used to catch the ball. Just like that. Come for a cross, catch the ball. Dive for a shot, catch the ball.

We used to laugh at foreign (scotch) goalies who did ridiculous things like punching the ball. Why would you want potentially to give the ball back to the opposition, when you can just catch it and have solid phase one possession?

I spend about 10% of my football watching screaming 'JUST CATCH THE FÚCKING BALL!' :shrug:
The Japanese keeper the other day - oh my. Where did he think the ball would go?

Burney
06-29-2018, 01:40 PM
May we discuss goalkeepers in general, though?

I appreciate that I am very old, but back in my day, goalkeepers used to have this bizarre and amazing trick.

They used to catch the ball. Just like that. Come for a cross, catch the ball. Dive for a shot, catch the ball.

We used to laugh at foreign (scotch) goalies who did ridiculous things like punching the ball. Why would you want potentially to give the ball back to the opposition, when you can just catch it and have solid phase one possession?

I spend about 10% of my football watching screaming 'JUST CATCH THE FÚCKING BALL!' :shrug:

:nod: As a child, I used to note the difference between catching goalkeepers and non-catching goalkeepers. This was obviously very naive of me, but I favoured the latter.

Sir C
06-29-2018, 01:43 PM
:nod: As a child, I used to note the difference between catching goalkeepers and non-catching goalkeepers. This was obviously very naive of me, but I favoured the latter.

It was always a criticism of Pat Jennings - that he would sometimes save with his feet, meaning the ball went back into play rather than to safety. Of course he was also known for coming a catching crosses with one hand.

Shilton, Clemence, Corrigan - those boys knew how to catch a ball.

Burney
06-29-2018, 01:43 PM
The band were very annoying, even from Dublin 16.

I’m not an unkind man, sw, as you know, but I would have any **** who brings a musical instrument into a sporting event torn apart with red-hot pincers.

Luis Anaconda
06-29-2018, 01:43 PM
Careful, our genius, foreign ex-manager was only just the other day waxing prophetic on Dier. I must say, I have never seen anything from the lad that makes me think he is anything other than average on his best days when played in the correct position.

I like Pickford, does some things very well and the things he doesn't seem very correctable. Dangerous game slating young keepers, they have a tendency to get better with age.
I think he is a talented lad, but I think it is quite justifiable to point out that a 30 million pound keeper who is England's No 1 has a massive flaw in his game regardless of his age. He did this countless times last season - in the first half of our game at Goodison alone he did it four times. It's quite a basic skill for a keeper, I don't understand why it hasn't been addressed

Rich
06-29-2018, 01:44 PM
I think he is a talented lad, but I think it is quite justifiable to point out that a 30 million pound keeper who is England's No 1 has a massive flaw in his game regardless of his age. He did this countless times last season - in the first half of our game at Goodison alone he did it four times. It's quite a basic skill for a keeper, I don't understand why it hasn't been addressed

I think Butland is perhaps the better keeper. It's just that Pickford plays well with his feet, hence his inclusion as number one.

Burney
06-29-2018, 01:46 PM
It was always a criticism of Pat Jennings - that he would sometimes save with his feet, meaning the ball went back into play rather than to safety. Of course he was also known for coming a catching crosses with one hand.

Shilton, Clemence, Corrigan - those boys knew how to catch a ball.

The very example I was going to use. There was always a strong suspicion that catching goalkeepers never got the love that non-catching goalkeepers do because what they do is by its nature less spectacular.

Joe Corrigan got about two England caps. He’d walk into the England team today, the big ugly cùnt.

Luis Anaconda
06-29-2018, 01:46 PM
I think Butland is perhaps the better keeper. It's just that Pickford plays well with his feet, hence his inclusion as number one.

Undoubtedly on both counts, r - I could watch this over and over again though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJO7Rp3Hrvs

Luis Anaconda
06-29-2018, 01:47 PM
The very example I was going to use. There was always a strong suspicion that catching goalkeepers never got the love that non-catching goalkeepers do because what they do is by its nature less spectacular.

Joe Corrigan got about two England caps. He’d walk into the England team today, the big ugly cùnt.

John Lukic never got an England cap, b. Travesty. Even Nigel Spink got a run out against Australia

IUFG
06-29-2018, 01:53 PM
Corrigan - those boys knew how to catch a ball.

and gift the opposition a goal.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LH677srktkk


that pitch :hehe:

Sir C
06-29-2018, 01:54 PM
and gift the opposition a goal.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LH677srktkk


that pitch :hehe:

Imagine the weight of the accumulated mud on your boots :hehe:

Viva Prat Vegas
06-29-2018, 01:55 PM
LA "Even Nigel Spink got a run out against Australia"

Not forgetting our old favourite
Jimmy Rimmer

IUFG
06-29-2018, 02:06 PM
Imagine the weight of the accumulated mud on your boots :hehe:

Nowadays, even the worst of the worst non-league pitches are infinitely better than that pitch.

I remember the sound of the mud sucking at your boots when playing on that type of surface :cloud9:

Ash
06-29-2018, 02:18 PM
The band were very annoying, even from Dublin 16.

This, quite apart from the queasy Spursiness of the current squard, is partly why I struggle to get behind my local international team. That and "Rule Britannia" :-|

Though after 50 years of hurt, I think it was probably the over-hyped legion of thundercùnts known laughingly as the 'golden generation' that broke the camel's back. Lack of these Billy Big Boots types works a little bit in this team's favour tbf.

Then there is Delhi Ali. :-(

Ash
06-29-2018, 02:20 PM
I’m not an unkind man, sw, as you know, but I would have any **** who brings a musical instrument into a sporting event torn apart with red-hot pincers.

I may have mentioned, quite often in fact, my problem with Gazidis letting enemy teams (mostly Germans) bring DRUMS into the Grove. :shout:

SWv2
06-29-2018, 02:26 PM
I may have mentioned, quite often in fact, my problem with Gazidis letting enemy teams (mostly Germans) bring DRUMS into the Grove. :shout:

The lady directly behind my ST in Block 5 used have a drum.

More than once there was words.

:shout:

Herbert Augustus Chapman
06-29-2018, 02:34 PM
like a pinball with Down’s Syndrome? Lord, how I laughed.

As someone with Down's Syndrome I find your use of the phrase as a pejorative highly offensive and clearly calculated to diminish, intimidate and oppress me.

IUFG
06-29-2018, 02:36 PM
... and clearly calculated to diminish, intimidate and oppress me.

I reckon you've got that pretty much spot on, h.

SWv2
06-29-2018, 02:39 PM
As someone with Down's Syndrome I find your use of the phrase as a pejorative highly offensive and clearly calculated to diminish, intimidate and oppress me.

As a man who stood single handedly in defiance as the ICF tried to take the North Bank I refuse to believe you to be intimidated by mockery of your disability.

Burney
06-29-2018, 02:43 PM
As someone with Down's Syndrome I find your use of the phrase as a pejorative highly offensive and clearly calculated to diminish, intimidate and oppress me.

Are you suggesting that having Down's Syndrome could ever be a positive when it comes to footballing ability, h?

OK, Damien Duff, but apart from him?

Herbert Augustus Chapman
06-29-2018, 02:43 PM
As a man who stood single handedly in defiance as the ICF tried to take the North Bank I refuse to believe you to be intimidated by mockery of your disability.

Now you're at it. Referring to my 'gift' as a disability. Do I ever mock you for the disadvantages* you have had to endure since birth?

*Irishness

Herbert Augustus Chapman
06-29-2018, 02:46 PM
Are you suggesting that having Down's Syndrome could ever be a positive when it comes to footballing ability, h?


Well, when one scores a goal one is expected to leap around like a spastic with his cock caught in his zipper so one would carry a distinct advantage there I suppose.

SWv2
06-29-2018, 02:48 PM
Are you suggesting that having Down's Syndrome could ever be a positive when it comes to footballing ability, h?

OK, Damien Duff, but apart from him?

Duffer is a pundit on RTE for the current World Cup.

Quite good he is.

Burney
06-29-2018, 02:56 PM
Duffer is a pundit on RTE for the current World Cup.

Quite good he is.

Does he still look like a mong, though.

To be honest, I always quite liked him as a player.

IUFG
06-29-2018, 02:56 PM
Duffer is a pundit on RTE for the current World Cup.

Quite good he is.

You? Watching Irish TV?

Whatever next?

Burney
06-29-2018, 03:00 PM
Does he still look like a mong, though.

To be honest, I always quite liked him as a player.

As a boy, I was friends with a chap whose parents in their wisdom decided to adopt a mong. Gareth, his name was. Lovely, sweet chap most of the time. However, if his mong brain became enraged, he got excited or (and this was a bit awkward) sexually aroused ( :-( ) he would acquire extraordinary mong powers that made him superhumanly strong and dangerous. When this happened, my friend and his two brothers (who were quite burly lads) were required to bundle him into a cupboard and lock him in there until he calmed down.

I'm pretty sure this wouldn't be allowed today.

IUFG
06-29-2018, 03:09 PM
Seclusion - as it is known in mental health terms. Usually the last resort.

SWv2
06-29-2018, 03:12 PM
You? Watching Irish TV?

Whatever next?

The alternative is Rio and his mates on your BBC - Shearer, Lawrenson and Jenas.

In summary, fúck that.

Sir C
06-29-2018, 03:12 PM
Seclusion - as it is known in mental health terms. Usually the last resort.

Just taze the fúcker, surely?

Burney
06-29-2018, 03:14 PM
Seclusion - as it is known in mental health terms. Usually the last resort.

To be fair, short of using a tranquiliser dart, I don't know what else they could have done with the little fvcker. :shrug: If you got in his way, he'd take you down - and being battered by a rampaging mong is not a happy prospect, I can tell you.

Burney
06-29-2018, 03:15 PM
Just taze the fúcker, surely?

I don't think they had tazers in those days.

IUFG
06-29-2018, 03:17 PM
I don't think they had tazers in those days.

sleep mallets.

Sir C
06-29-2018, 03:20 PM
To be fair, short of using a tranquiliser dart, I don't know what else they could have done with the little fvcker. :shrug: If you got in his way, he'd take you down - and being battered by a rampaging mong is not a happy prospect, I can tell you.

Some sort of cattle prod would have been handy.

SWv2
06-29-2018, 03:43 PM
Some sort of cattle prod would have been handy.

The birch.

I genuinely have no idea what it even is but was regularly threatened with it in my youth.

Burney
06-29-2018, 06:22 PM
The birch.

I genuinely have no idea what it even is but was regularly threatened with it in my youth.

It’s what they use on homosexualists in The Isle of Man, I think.