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WES
06-19-2018, 07:44 AM
if FIFA was in anyway interested in preserving whatever remains of their credibility on this issue, they would announce publicly that the VAR assistant got three blatant decisions wrong against England and they would remove him from his responsibilities for this tournament.

How can anyone defend it if it can't get those decisions right? :shrug:

Billy Goat Sverige
06-19-2018, 07:54 AM
if FIFA was in anyway interested in preserving whatever remains of their credibility on this issue, they would announce publicly that the VAR assistant got three blatant decisions wrong against England and they would remove him from his responsibilities for this tournament.

How can anyone defend it if it can't get those decisions right? :shrug:

It still is being used better than how they used it in the FA Cup, they just got the decision(s) wrong.

Tony C
06-19-2018, 08:04 AM
Pretty clear what’s going on.

VAR only being used so Russia can win.

Just look at at all the big VAR decisions that have gone against the top sides.

Putin is shrood. Fighting back against the reptilian illuminati. He knows what’s what!

FC Hanchoppers got theirs and King Mo will get mercilessly kicked about later today.

Hope they win it.

WES
06-19-2018, 08:15 AM
It still is being used better than how they used it in the FA Cup, they just got the decision(s) wrong.

I'm unconvinced BGS, possibly because I just don't like it. It still feels like the referee and VAR assistant are unclear as to who should contact whom and when.

From what I've seen so far, feels like the VAR assistants are very hesitant to initiate the review. My understanding is that either they or the referee can do so. Not sure how else to explain last night and a few other decisions. You can't just dismiss those decisions as getting them wrong. It's impossible for anyone who knows even the smallest amount about football to not see that those were pens.

IUFG
06-19-2018, 08:16 AM
if FIFA was in anyway interested in preserving whatever remains of their credibility on this issue, they would announce publicly that the VAR assistant got three blatant decisions wrong against England and they would remove him from his responsibilities for this tournament.

How can anyone defend it if it can't get those decisions right? :shrug:

The television replays were all over Kane being manhandled yet the VAR either a) didn't see it (unfúckingbelievable) or b) didn't think it was a foul (unfúckingbelievable).

Soft, soft penalty against England too.

International football? Bag of shíte.

Billy Goat Sverige
06-19-2018, 08:23 AM
I'm unconvinced BGS, possibly because I just don't like it. It still feels like the referee and VAR assistant are unclear as to who should contact whom and when.

From what I've seen so far, feels like the VAR assistants are very hesitant to initiate the review. My understanding is that either they or the referee can do so. Not sure how else to explain last night and a few other decisions. You can't just dismiss those decisions as getting them wrong. It's impossible for anyone who knows even the smallest amount about football to not see that those were pens.

My point about it being better was more about it allowing the game to flow more naturally. In the FA Cup it was very stop/start. As for whether it works or not, those decisions are always contentious. Some refs see them and give them and others don’t. If the ref actually gave the first one last night he wouldn’t have given the second one because he’d already given one, despite it still being a foul. While there’s still a human element there will always be inconsistencies.

WES
06-19-2018, 08:28 AM
The television replays were all over Kane being manhandled yet the VAR either a) didn't see it (unfúckingbelievable) or b) didn't think it was a foul (unfúckingbelievable).

Soft, soft penalty against England too.

International football? Bag of shíte.

I thought that was a clear pen against that brain dead muppet Walker. He didn't just raise his arm as the BBC was claiming. He swung it backward and hit the Tunisian in the face. Clear foul and clear pen for me.

And I will reiterate my view that Walker is a drastically overrated player and a liability. And his Spurs heritage in no way influences me. :-)

PSRB
06-19-2018, 08:36 AM
I thought that was a clear pen against that brain dead muppet Walker. He didn't just raise his arm as the BBC was claiming. He swung it backward and hit the Tunisian in the face. Clear foul and clear pen for me.

And I will reiterate my view that Walker is a drastically overrated player and a liability. And his Spurs heritage in no way influences me. :-)

:nod: Was a stick on pen, imo.

Lingard is complete toilet and if Ozil put in as poor a performance as Dele Alli did [and was English], they'd be burning him at the stake!

WES
06-19-2018, 09:27 AM
:nod: Was a stick on pen, imo.

Lingard is complete toilet and if Ozil put in as poor a performance as Dele Alli did [and was English], they'd be burning him at the stake!

I thought Sterling was toilet as well. Trippier, Henderson, Kane were all very good, I thought.

IUFG
06-19-2018, 09:29 AM
Lingard is complete toilet

:nod: fúcking atrocious

WES
06-19-2018, 09:39 AM
:nod: fúcking atrocious

It's an interesting phenomena though innit? If you ask me who played poorly I would say Walker, Maguire, Lindgard, and Sterling. Average at best? Young, Ali and Stones. So that's 7 out of 10 that were average or poor.

Yet the team play in the first half and towards the end of the second half was very good. :shrug:

IUFG
06-19-2018, 09:54 AM
It's an interesting phenomena though innit? If you ask me who played poorly I would say Walker, Maguire, Lindgard, and Sterling. Average at best? Young, Ali and Stones. So that's 7 out of 10 that were average or poor.

Yet the team play in the first half and towards the end of the second half was very good. :shrug:

I thought Maguire was playing well until he gifted them the ball just outside the area. £17m from Hull City to World Cup player. Who knew?

Lindgard, Alli and Sterling were piss poor, I thought. Walker shít in parts.

Alli maybe carrying a knock? If he was, he was doing so for about 60 minutes with it. Southgate out!

Maybe the team is greater than the sum of its parts...

PSRB
06-19-2018, 09:55 AM
I thought Maguire was playing well until he gifted them the ball just outside the area. £17m from Hull City to World Cup player. Who knew?

Lindgard, Alli and Sterling were piss poor, I thought. Walker shít in parts.

Alli maybe carrying a knock? If he was, he was doing so for about 60 minutes with it. Southgate out!

Maybe the team is greater than the sum of its parts...

Annoyingly, Trippier was excellent. England's best player by a distance

SWv2
06-19-2018, 10:03 AM
Have to say I let out a minor swear word when Kane scored.

Not from any hatred or resentment of the English based on a history of violence due to oppression of my mother people or the continued war we rage on this basis, just the simple fact that the whole after show would have been so much better had it been a draw.

You had Lineker like a cat who go the cream, I swear Rio Ferdinand actually said that after that countries would want to avoid England and Harry Kane being elevated to levels which I don’t like.

I only saw the second half now as I was out but the introduction of Rashford changed the game I thought. He was not involved directly in the goal but the whole shítfest just livened up a few notches when he came on.

On a not specifically football related issue why is Alli allowed to be called Dele and not by his full and correct surname as the others? I suspect it is because he is a ****?

p.s. VAR. More accurate name would be LOL.

SWv2
06-19-2018, 10:04 AM
Annoyingly, Trippier was excellent. England's best player by a distance

Thought Stones looked the part. Best I have seen him in ages.

Easy to look the part all the same when I am not sure the Tunisiers actually had the ball in the English area once in the time I endured.