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Rich
04-25-2018, 12:21 PM
‘.

Ivan only went and bloody sacked him. This makes me think that a replacement MUST already have been secured.

Pat Vegas
04-25-2018, 12:27 PM
‘.

Ivan only went and bloody sacked him. This makes me think that a replacement MUST already have been secured.

I think it was sort of you will be sacked so quit type thing.
Otherwise if I was Wenger i'd tell them to piss off and walk out now.

SWv2
04-25-2018, 12:28 PM
‘.

Ivan only went and bloody sacked him. This makes me think that a replacement MUST already have been secured.

We all knew this R. Didn't need him to tell us. His demeanor on Sunday made this quite clear.

Petulant old fúcker.

Rich
04-25-2018, 12:31 PM
What should I have noted about his demeanour? Or do you mean the dropping of players that he had no say in purchasing etc?

SWv2
04-25-2018, 12:33 PM
What should I have noted about his demeanour? Or do you mean the dropping of players that he had no say in purchasing etc?

Didn't even notice that as I simply saw his selection as preparation for tomorrow night's hammering.

Tony C
04-25-2018, 12:37 PM
He probably wanted to do it after the Europa League was over when he could just walk away quietly but the club’s preference is to give him a grand send off.

Mickey mentioned yesterday about his going away party and how much the club b are spending on it...and that’s internal only. The external stuff in the stadium for the last home game or even an Europa League / Wenger parade will be huge.

Pretty sure most people in his position would like to avoid stuff like this...

redgunamo
04-25-2018, 12:44 PM
We all knew this R. Didn't need him to tell us. His demeanor on Sunday made this quite clear.

Petulant old fúcker.

Right. He would never have "quit".

Peter
04-25-2018, 12:45 PM
Right. He would never have "quit".

Nobody quits these days. its too expensive.

IUFG
04-25-2018, 12:47 PM
Nobody quits these days. its too expensive.

Correct. If you walk you get nothing.

Get pushed, you get your notice period.

£10m :kerching:

redgunamo
04-25-2018, 12:59 PM
Nobody quits these days. its too expensive.

Not Premier League football managers surely? They can write their own ticket, I'd have thought. If they choose to leave, their contracts are still paid up, or out, anyway, aren't they?

Sir C
04-25-2018, 01:00 PM
Correct. If you walk you get nothing.

Get pushed, you get your notice period.

£10m :kerching:

Once he's paid the tax and NI on that he'll end up with half of it, i. :-( #socialism #taxationistheft

Rich
04-25-2018, 01:05 PM
Once he's paid the tax and NI on that he'll end up with half of it, i. :-( #socialism #taxationistheft

Surely he would have the club pay him in EUR to his Monaco-registered bank account?

IUFG
04-25-2018, 01:14 PM
Once he's paid the tax and NI on that he'll end up with half of it, i. :-( #socialism #taxationistheft

Yes, the government has closed the old PILON tax and NI free loop despite the contractual nature or otherwise.
Still, the first £30k remains untouched.

wd, AW on making such a large contribution to the public coffers.

IUFG
04-25-2018, 01:16 PM
Surely he would have the club pay him in EUR to his Monaco-registered bank account?

Do you have any idea how this stuff works, r?

or does pig shít seem thin by comparison?

Sir C
04-25-2018, 01:20 PM
Surely he would have the club pay him in EUR to his Monaco-registered bank account?

Oh silly me, yes, I forgot it's that simple.

How stupid of me to have paid tax all my life when I didn't need to. Never mind, I'll pop off to Monaco and open a bank account this afternoon. That'll fox 'em.

Sir C
04-25-2018, 01:22 PM
Yes, the government has closed the old PILON tax and NI free loop despite the contractual nature or otherwise.
Still, the first £30k remains untouched.

wd, AW on making such a large contribution to the public coffers.

The bástards have also changed the rules on employee benefit trusts retrospectively. They are no better than thieves.

Peter
04-25-2018, 01:23 PM
Oh silly me, yes, I forgot it's that simple.

How stupid of me to have paid tax all my life when I didn't need to. Never mind, I'll pop off to Monaco and open a bank account this afternoon. That'll fox 'em.

There is nothing wrong with paying taxes. It is in fact your national duty.

Sir C
04-25-2018, 01:25 PM
There is nothing wrong with paying taxes. It is in fact your national duty.

I wouldn't mind if everyone paid the same. They should share the burden equally.

I appear to be paying for 6 or 7.

redgunamo
04-25-2018, 01:28 PM
There is nothing wrong with paying taxes. It is in fact your national duty.

Yes, there is. For a start, there's the profoundly dishonest presumption that the government knows better how to spend my money than I do. Did they do 25% of my work? If not, why give them 25% of my money.

Taxes is basically treason against mankind.

Rich
04-25-2018, 01:36 PM
Oh silly me, yes, I forgot it's that simple.

How stupid of me to have paid tax all my life when I didn't need to. Never mind, I'll pop off to Monaco and open a bank account this afternoon. That'll fox 'em.

Now you would say that, wouldn’t you?? Who knows what the taxman is reading...

I strongly suspect that you employ someone to ensure that you are as tax efficient as possible.

IUFG
04-25-2018, 01:41 PM
Now you would say that, wouldn’t you?? Who knows what the taxman is reading...

I strongly suspect that you employ someone to ensure that you are as tax efficient as possible.

wouldn't we all.

but imagine being in a very high profile job where your pay off is speculated about in the national press.

then try flying your tax liability under the radar...

Just Trent
04-25-2018, 01:45 PM
‘.

Ivan only went and bloody sacked him. This makes me think that a replacement MUST already have been secured.

Getting a bit sick of this long goodbye already. Another three weeks of this to come. Season can't end soon enough imo

Peter
04-25-2018, 01:45 PM
Yes, there is. For a start, there's the profoundly dishonest presumption that the government knows better how to spend my money than I do. Did they do 25% of my work? If not, why give them 25% of my money.

Taxes is basically treason against mankind.

The government fears that you wont spend much of your money on roads, health insurance, military, adequate policing....... it is just easier if they take it and spend it on these things. You can get on with your life and not worry about it.

Rich
04-25-2018, 01:45 PM
Getting a bit sick of this long goodbye already. Another three weeks of this to come. Season can't end soon enough imo

Well I must say that I’m quite looking forward to winning the Europa League.

Pat Vegas
04-25-2018, 01:49 PM
Well I must say that I’m quite looking forward to winning the Europa League.

Hopefully we do.
It would be a proper European trophy imo.

SWv2
04-25-2018, 01:49 PM
Well I must say that I’m quite looking forward to winning the Europa League.

I admire your optimism R.

That's it mind you. Apart from that I think you are an absolute bell-end. Just to be clear.

redgunamo
04-25-2018, 04:10 PM
The government fears that you wont spend much of your money on roads, health insurance, military, adequate policing....... it is just easier if they take it and spend it on these things. You can get on with your life and not worry about it.

As I said, that is a profoundly dishonest presumption: I live on a couple of dozen acres of my own property, have comprehensive private healthcare and insurance, a decent stash of firearms, a pack of hunting dogs and a flock of wild geese.

The trouble with you is, you is a lefty and therefore wilfully immature and terrified of personal responsibility; essentially frightened of growing up and looking after yourself. You're delighted, and relieved, your government agrees to save you the trouble by playing mummy and daddy.

I'd tell you to man up, but it's almost certainly too late for that, in your case :-)

redgunamo
04-25-2018, 08:54 PM
I wouldn't mind if everyone paid the same. They should share the burden equally.

I appear to be paying for 6 or 7.

That's the thing, isn't it. It's alright if it's six or seven people you know and may care about. Your hounds, for instance. Your wife, your kids; people like that.

But when was the last time the government bought you a dog biscuit, a sheepskin blanket and a new collar? How about some of that saucy Parisian lingerie you like, a few nights in the Caribees and a new Range Rover? A knife-and-fork supper and a decent bot of your favourite champagne? And I bet they never even imagine you might fancy a pair of the latest y-3's, a new Nintendo game and a comic book, a bottle of pop and some sweets?

It's the bland, indifferent, impersonal nature of the thing that grates and destroys both spirit and soul. It isn't their fault really but government doesn't care what you want, it doesn't care what you like and it doesn't care what you get because it's not their money.

Burney
04-26-2018, 08:28 AM
The government fears that you wont spend much of your money on roads, health insurance, military, adequate policing....... it is just easier if they take it and spend it on these things. You can get on with your life and not worry about it.

Privately-funded roads that charge tolls, p.
If I don't pay health insurance, that's down to me.
A police force is inimical to individual freedom and ought to be done away with and replaced by private security.

Government has a role to play in national defence and the operation of the law. That's it. Everything else would be better left to private capital and market forces.

Burney
04-26-2018, 08:29 AM
That's the thing, isn't it. It's alright if it's six or seven people you know and may care about. Your hounds, for instance. Your wife, your kids; people like that.

But when was the last time the government bought you a dog biscuit, a sheepskin blanket and a new collar? How about some of that saucy Parisian lingerie you like, a few nights in the Caribees and a new Range Rover? A knife-and-fork supper and a decent bot of your favourite champagne? And I bet they never even imagine you might fancy a pair of the latest y-3's, a new Nintendo game and a comic book, a bottle of pop and some sweets?

It's the bland, indifferent, impersonal nature of the thing that grates and destroys both spirit and soul. It isn't their fault really but government doesn't care what you want, it doesn't care what you like and it doesn't care what you get because it's not their money.

I agree, r. Mind you, it has to be said that this is a bit rich coming from a chap who has had much of his professional life funded by the taxpayer.

7sisters
04-26-2018, 08:35 AM
Privately-funded roads that charge tolls, p.
If I don't pay health insurance, that's down to me.
A police force is inimical to individual freedom and ought to be done away with and replaced by private security.

Government has a role to play in national defence and the operation of the law. That's it. Everything else would be better left to private capital and market forces.


I mean, Group 4 ?

Burney
04-26-2018, 08:38 AM
I mean, Group 4 ?

One would have a choice, wouldn't one? Which means that if a security provider were bad, you could get a better one - and they'd be competing, thus driving down costs. As it is, our police force is a useless, bloated and ideologically-motivated mess more worried about being called racist than about solving or preventing crime. Don't tell me the private sector couldn't do better.

Sir C
04-26-2018, 08:40 AM
One would have a choice, wouldn't one? Which means that if a security provider were bad, you could get a better one - and they'd be competing, thus driving down costs. As it is, our police force is a useless, bloated and ideologically-motivated mess more worried about being called racist than about solving or preventing crime. Don't tell me the private sector couldn't do better.

Bear in mind that the fine gentlemen of the constabulary are watching for any evidence of hate crimes, which they will pursue mercilessly. I for one applaud this important work and hail the heroes of the Thoughtcriume Division.

Burney
04-26-2018, 08:43 AM
Bear in mind that the fine gentlemen of the constabulary are watching for any evidence of hate crimes, which they will pursue mercilessly. I for one applaud this important work and hail the heroes of the Thoughtcriume Division.

Exactly. This is what comes when one's police force is a branch of government. They absorb political policy and pursue political agendas.

Sir C
04-26-2018, 08:45 AM
Exactly. This is what comes when one's police force is a branch of government. They absorb political policy and pursue political agendas.

I think they do a wonderful multicultural LGBTQI-inclusive job and they are welcome to examine my hard drive and brainwaves any time they fancy. Should I require re-education, it will be an honour to serve in Our Gulag.

redgunamo
04-26-2018, 08:55 AM
I agree, r. Mind you, it has to be said that this is a bit rich coming from a chap who has had much of his professional life funded by the taxpayer.

Well, quite. Ask the man who knows.

It's a brilliant idea for me, of course. My post was not based on ingratitude so much as incredulity; why do intelligent people believe giving lots of money to government so government can give lots of money to people like me is a good idea.

redgunamo
04-26-2018, 09:10 AM
Exactly. This is what comes when one's police force is a branch of government. They absorb political policy and pursue political agendas.

And they also get bored, and boredom leads to pointless corruption. It's all just silly, juvenile, bureaucratic games.

I was reading up on Whitey Bulger the other week. I had actually come across his case many years ago by accident, as I was looking into a legendary fighting English bull-terrier called "Whitey" and the Bulger-thing came up in a search.

Anyway, it seems that the so called special counsel who is currently harassing President Trump is heavily, possibly even criminally, implicated in that whole fiasco. And most of these people like him aren't even doing it for the money! I really think they're just bored :shrug:

Burney
04-26-2018, 09:16 AM
And they also get bored, and boredom leads to pointless corruption. It's all just silly, juvenile, bureaucratic games.

I was reading up on Whitey Bulger the other week. I had actually come across his case many years ago by accident, as I was looking into a legendary fighting English bull-terrier called "Whitey" and the Bulger-thing came up in a search.

Anyway, it seems that the so called special counsel who is currently harassing President Trump is heavily, possibly even criminally, implicated in that whole fiasco. And most of these people like him aren't even doing it for the money! I really think they're just bored :shrug:

That's the gangster chap in Boston whose brother was a senator or somesuch, isn't it? I saw a film about him. With Johnny Depp, I think.

Shanty-town Irish, r. Corruption's inevitable. Look at the Kennedys.

redgunamo
04-26-2018, 09:40 AM
That's the gangster chap in Boston whose brother was a senator or somesuch, isn't it? I saw a film about him. With Johnny Depp, I think.

Shanty-town Irish, r. Corruption's inevitable. Look at the Kennedys.

Right. And Jack Nicholson's character in "The Departed".

But the bit I don't get is, when does it stop? When do these fellows say, "Right. I've got enough dirty cash; I'm off to live in the country, and leaving not even a wisp of cloud behind, to breed border collies and Labradors and my wife will be joining me as CEO of the Ponies, Kids and other Farmyard Animals Farmstead Concern for the rest of our natural lives", or whatever?

Burney
04-26-2018, 09:42 AM
Right. And Jack Nicholson's character in "The Departed".

But the bit I don't get is, when does it stop? When do these fellows say, "Right. I've got enough dirty cash; I'm off to live in the country, and leaving not even a wisp of cloud behind, to breed border collies and Labradors and my wife will be joining me as CEO of the Ponies, Kids and other Farmyard Animals Farmstead Concern for the rest of our natural lives", or whatever?

Doesn't seem to work like that. A lot of these people seem to love the whole business of being dirty as much as they love the cash that comes with it.

Alberto Balsam Rodriguez
04-26-2018, 11:26 AM
‘.

Ivan only went and bloody sacked him. This makes me think that a replacement MUST already have been secured.


Season ticket renewals innit

eastgermanautos
04-26-2018, 04:30 PM
That's the thing, isn't it. It's alright if it's six or seven people you know and may care about. Your hounds, for instance. Your wife, your kids; people like that.

But when was the last time the government bought you a dog biscuit, a sheepskin blanket and a new collar? How about some of that saucy Parisian lingerie you like, a few nights in the Caribees and a new Range Rover? A knife-and-fork supper and a decent bot of your favourite champagne? And I bet they never even imagine you might fancy a pair of the latest y-3's, a new Nintendo game and a comic book, a bottle of pop and some sweets?

It's the bland, indifferent, impersonal nature of the thing that grates and destroys both spirit and soul. It isn't their fault really but government doesn't care what you want, it doesn't care what you like and it doesn't care what you get because it's not their money.

What is all this crap? The US is a rampant kleptocracy and I'm sure it's the same over in your parts. The rich get immense benefits, while also bilking the system. This personal responsibility line is just something to fvck with the poors.

redgunamo
04-26-2018, 04:34 PM
What is all this crap? The US is a rampant kleptocracy and I'm sure it's the same over in your parts. The rich get immense benefits, while also bilking the system. This personal responsibility line is just something to fvck with the poors.

You're one of AWIMB's resident pinkoes; you would say that :p

eastgermanautos
04-26-2018, 05:09 PM
You're one of AWIMB's resident pinkoes; you would say that :p

I think I'm more of a throwback to the rich people-at-the-end-of-a-pitch fork era. Top 1% get 83% of the wealth, G.

Herbert Augustus Chapman
04-26-2018, 06:33 PM
I think I'm more of a throwback to the rich people-at-the-end-of-a-pitch fork era. Top 1% get 83% of the wealth, G.

paid pretty good dollar to tool around the world fúckin ho's and poppin' pillies under the pretext of putting film projects together. You've never been involved in anything successful and this we know because you'd be hollering it from the rooftops if you had :-D