World's End Stella - football talent evaluator extraordinaire - has spotted two Juve

[World's End Stella]

players we should buy.

1) De Sciglio
2) Bentancur

A right sided defender and a midfielder. And let me remind you that it was almost 3 years ago that I informed everyone of a young star at Schalke named Leroy Sane.

Write down those names lads. :nod:

[Pokster]

players we should buy.

1) De Sciglio
2) Bentancur

A right sided defender and a midfielder. And let me remind you that it was almost 3 years ago that I informed everyone of a young star at Schalke named Leroy Sane.

Write down those names lads. :nod:

Wow, you spotted Sane, if only nobody else had already spotted him.

You know didly squat about football or cricket imho

[Luis Anaconda]

players we should buy.

1) De Sciglio
2) Bentancur

A right sided defender and a midfielder. And let me remind you that it was almost 3 years ago that I informed everyone of a young star at Schalke named Leroy Sane.

Write down those names lads. :nod:
Around the same time he made a fantastic debut against Real Madrid that had everyone talking about him - wd WES, you are quite the talent spotter. Did you see the game last night - I reckon that Ronaldo lad will be quite the star

[World's End Stella]

Around the same time he made a fantastic debut against Real Madrid that had everyone talking about him - wd WES, you are quite the talent spotter. Did you see the game last night - I reckon that Ronaldo lad will be quite the star

Yes, and he was so universally coveted and in demand amongst all the biggest clubs that he went to Man City for the overwhelming fee of 37mil. :rolleyes:

Meanwhile, our dimwitted manager was keeping faith with Walcott, Ox and Iwobi. :nod:

[Luis Anaconda]

Yes, and he was so universally coveted and in demand amongst all the biggest clubs that he went to Man City for the overwhelming fee of 37mil. :rolleyes:

Meanwhile, our dimwitted manager was keeping faith with Walcott, Ox and Iwobi. :nod:
That's quite a lot of money for a relatively untried youngster however talented :shrug: And Manchester City are currently a very big draw financially and footbally - why do you think he would have turned them down to come to us? Why can't you understand even these simplest of things.

[Luis Anaconda]

That's quite a lot of money for a relatively untried youngster however talented :shrug: And Manchester City are currently a very big draw financially and footbally - why do you think he would have turned them down to come to us? Why can't you understand even these simplest of things.

Just to put that fee into perspective, only about 30-35 players in history have gone for more than that and almost half of those have been since the Sane deal

[World's End Stella]

That's quite a lot of money for a relatively untried youngster however talented :shrug: And Manchester City are currently a very big draw financially and footbally - why do you think he would have turned them down to come to us? Why can't you understand even these simplest of things.

He joined City after the 2015/2016 season, one in which Arsenal finished 2 places and 5 points ahead of City. Arsenal had and have a reputation for giving young players a chance and had and have enough money to afford him and even pay him more in wages than City if we wanted to. Why can't you understand even these simplest of things?

[Luis Anaconda]

He joined City after the 2015/2016 season, one in which Arsenal finished 2 places and 5 points ahead of City. Arsenal had and have a reputation for giving young players a chance and had and have enough money to afford him and even pay him more in wages than City if we wanted to. Why can't you understand even these simplest of things?

:hehe: Seriously - stop now. I know even you don't believe that. So you think he would have chosen Leicester above City then as they finished top of the league. The wages thing is a joke - we could "afford" to pay him more, we could have made an unproven 20-year-old our highest paid player if we wanted. It would be a bit retarded though, which I'm sure you realise but will just continue to troll rather than admit :rolleyes:

[World's End Stella]

:hehe: Seriously - stop now. I know even you don't believe that. So you think he would have chosen Leicester above City then as they finished top of the league. The wages thing is a joke - we could "afford" to pay him more, we could have made an unproven 20-year-old our highest paid player if we wanted. It would be a bit retarded though, which I'm sure you realise but will just continue to troll rather than admit :rolleyes:

:hehe: No, seriously, stop now. I listed several reasons that he might go to Arsenal, not simply our league position. You then reduced it down to that factor only which is nonsense and not what I said.

Yes, we had every chance to get Sane. Was it certain? Of course not, but to dismiss it entirely is nonsense.

[Peter]

Just to put that fee into perspective, only about 30-35 players in history have gone for more than that and almost half of those have been since the Sane deal

And at his age?

[World's End Stella]

:hehe: Seriously - stop now. I know even you don't believe that. So you think he would have chosen Leicester above City then as they finished top of the league. The wages thing is a joke - we could "afford" to pay him more, we could have made an unproven 20-year-old our highest paid player if we wanted. It would be a bit retarded though, which I'm sure you realise but will just continue to troll rather than admit :rolleyes:

Oh, and according to MEN his initial contract paid him the salary structure destroying sum of 60K a week. That would be 5K a week more than Wenger paid Bendtner for 5 years.

Anything else you want me to shoot down?

[Sir C]

Oh, and according to MEN his initial contract paid him the salary structure destroying sum of 60K a week. That would be 5K a week more than Wenger paid Bendtner for 5 years.

Anything else you want me to shoot down?

It's good that these players negotiate a contract and them immediately telephone the local newspaper to tell them how much they earn. I often think that. Handy, like.

[Luis Anaconda]

Oh, and according to MEN his initial contract paid him the salary structure destroying sum of 60K a week. That would be 5K a week more than Wenger paid Bendtner for 5 years.

Anything else you want me to shoot down?

And signing on fee - other inducements, agent's fee?

[World's End Stella]

And signing on fee - other inducements, agent's fee?

Stop being silly. I made the perfectly valid point that we should have attempted to sign him and as far as I can tell we didn't.

Now, a perfectly valid point would have been 'how do you know we didn't try and came up just short and maybe Guardiola was the difference?'. To which I would have replied, that's a fair point however it is surprising that we were never rumoured to be after him and Wenger had a consistent track record of not spending larger sums on younger players at that time. In fact, I would argue that Wenger was still in 'let's find a bargain' mode in the transfer market and for that reason it seems likely to me that we never attempted.

And that period, when he was still trying to find bargains despite having enough money that he didn't need to, played a significant factor in the struggles we are now experiencing.

[Luis Anaconda]

Stop being silly. I made the perfectly valid point that we should have attempted to sign him and as far as I can tell we didn't.

Now, a perfectly valid point would have been 'how do you know we didn't try and came up just short and maybe Guardiola was the difference?'. To which I would have replied, that's a fair point however it is surprising that we were never rumoured to be after him and Wenger had a consistent track record of not spending larger sums on younger players at that time. In fact, I would argue that Wenger was still in 'let's find a bargain' mode in the transfer market and for that reason it seems likely to me that we never attempted.

And that period, when he was still trying to find bargains despite having enough money that he didn't need to, played a significant factor in the struggles we are now experiencing.
We were constantly linked with him but it was clear for some time that he was heading to City. I don't think a wide player was particularly a priority and lavishing close on 40 million on an unproven youngster would have been seen as a particularly wise move :shrug:

[Peter]

We were constantly linked with him but it was clear for some time that he was heading to City. I don't think a wide player was particularly a priority and lavishing close on 40 million on an unproven youngster would have been seen as a particularly wise move :shrug:

That is a key point- what if he wasnt what we needed at the time? He arguably still isn't, great though he may be.

If WES spots a midfielder that runs and tackles like Vieira, passes like Cesc and is both affordable and available I will go and shoot Wenger myself if he doesn't sign him.