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Pokster
03-22-2018, 08:46 AM
so bad form on the Labour tosser who first said it, and also Borris for then repeating it

Sir C
03-22-2018, 09:01 AM
so bad form on the Labour tosser who first said it, and also Borris for then repeating it

Except no one compared Putin to Hitler; they compared the use of an event by one with the similar use of a similar event by the other. :shrug:

Pokster
03-22-2018, 09:15 AM
Except no one compared Putin to Hitler; they compared the use of an event by one with the similar use of a similar event by the other. :shrug:

which is what I said with the however it was intentioned....... comparing them in anyway at all is a bit bloody stupid

Herbert Augustus Chapman
03-22-2018, 09:20 AM
Jesus fúcking Christ, if that scruffy **** Boris was caught face raping a limbless orphan you'd try and defend him.

Sir C
03-22-2018, 09:23 AM
Jesus fúcking Christ, if that scruffy **** Boris was caught face raping a limbless orphan you'd try and defend him.

Oddly, I dreamt last night that I was sharing a house with Jacob Rees-Mogg. He was a proper pain in the arse.

Burney
03-22-2018, 09:27 AM
so bad form on the Labour tosser who first said it, and also Borris for then repeating it

Pointing out that tyrants have form for using major sporting events for propaganda purposes is hardly unacceptable, is it?

Besides, it's pretty funny to watch the same people who've been calling anyone to the right of Jeremy Corbyn 'Nazis' for the last few years start clutching their pearls because someone draws a valid historical parallel.

Pokster
03-22-2018, 09:28 AM
Pointing out that tyrants have form for using major sporting events for propaganda purposes is hardly unacceptable, is it?

Besides, it's pretty funny to watch the same people who've been calling anyone to the right of Jeremy Corbyn 'Nazis' for the last few years start clutching their pearls because someone draws a valid historical parallel.

I'm sorry, you are completely wrong on this, there is no defence for either politician to have used that reference

Burney
03-22-2018, 09:35 AM
I'm sorry, you are completely wrong on this, there is no defence for either politician to have used that reference

Why the fvck not? Hitler (well, Goebbels) basically wrote the book on using major sporting events as a propaganda platform. It's obvious that Putin will do the same. Given which, it would be weird to make that point without mentioning the 1936 Olympics. :shrug:

Pokster
03-22-2018, 09:42 AM
Why the fvck not? Hitler (well, Goebbels) basically wrote the book on using major sporting events as a propaganda platform. It's obvious that Putin will do the same. Given which, it would be weird to make that point without mentioning the 1936 Olympics. :shrug:

So IF Israel ever did anything like this, would anyone dare to compare it to what Germany did in '36? No, didn't think so

Burney
03-22-2018, 09:46 AM
So IF Israel ever did anything like this, would anyone dare to compare it to what Germany did in '36? No, didn't think so

The left never stops comparing Israel to the Nazis. Its pretty much their go-to insult. :shrug:

Besides, Israel is a parliamentary democracy and not a police state run by a tyrannical autocrat.

Pokster
03-22-2018, 09:51 AM
The left never stops comparing Israel to the Nazis. Its pretty much their go-to insult. :shrug:

Besides, Israel is a parliamentary democracy and not a police state run by a tyrannical autocrat.

Funny that you made it into a left bashing comment? Who'd have thought it

Tony C
03-22-2018, 10:26 AM
Russia will be lucky to get out of the groups imo

But then again South Korea almost made it to final so who knows :shrug:

PSRB
03-22-2018, 11:10 AM
so bad form on the Labour tosser who first said it, and also Borris for then repeating it

Pah, not a patch on Trump's latest offering. A real 'Hold my beer' moment.

Threatening the former Vice-President, Joe Biden, with physical violence. Said "I'll take him down, hard and fast" :hehe:

Burney
03-22-2018, 11:12 AM
Pah, not a patch on Trump's latest offering. A real 'Hold my beer' moment.

Threatening the former Vice-President, Joe Biden, with physical violence. Said "I'll take him down, hard and fast" :hehe:

I sort of love the Donald :love:

He's politics with all the tedious filters off. More of this sort of thing imo.

redgunamo
03-22-2018, 11:19 AM
Pah, not a patch on Trump's latest offering. A real 'Hold my beer' moment.

Threatening the former Vice-President, Joe Biden, with physical violence. Said "I'll take him down, hard and fast" :hehe:

In fairness, the POTUS was just responding in kind. Biden has a long-standing sensitivity to charges of cowardice, over his unwillingness to take on Obama and Hillary Clinton for the presidency. In over-compensating and trying to play the tough guy, he threatened the Donald and the Donald merely fired some back.

PSRB
03-22-2018, 11:20 AM
I sort of love the Donald :love:

He's politics with all the tedious filters off. More of this sort of thing imo.

Quite, it's also a clearly deliberate ploy just to annoy his detractors. He's clearly pretty confident that his core support will see him through

Peter
03-22-2018, 11:21 AM
Pointing out that tyrants have form for using major sporting events for propaganda purposes is hardly unacceptable, is it?

Besides, it's pretty funny to watch the same people who've been calling anyone to the right of Jeremy Corbyn 'Nazis' for the last few years start clutching their pearls because someone draws a valid historical parallel.


It isnt a valid historical parallel and is thoroughly irresponsible for a chap who is supposed to oversee our diplomacy. Thoroughly undiplomatic and this is going to be incredibly offensive to Russian people. More **** stirring from a government massively out of its depth.

You and me can say it,a foreign secretary cannot. This is what you get when you give an amiable buffoon a potentially significant job.

Burney
03-22-2018, 11:23 AM
It isnt a valid historical parallel and is thoroughly irresponsible for a chap who is supposed to oversee our diplomacy. Thoroughly undiplomatic and this is going to be incredibly offensive to Russian people. More **** stirring from a government massively out of its depth.

You and me can say it,a foreign secretary cannot. This is what you get when you give an amiable buffoon a potentially significant job.

The Russians are meant to find it offensive.

Fvck the Russian people.

Peter
03-22-2018, 11:24 AM
The Russians are meant to find it offensive.

Fvck the Russian people.

You could be Foreign Secretary :)

redgunamo
03-22-2018, 11:27 AM
Quite, it's also a clearly deliberate ploy just to annoy his detractors. He's clearly pretty confident that his core support will see him through

I don't think he actually has any really significant core support, at least, certainly not in the pejorative way his critics imply. In fact, the opposite is more likely true; he enjoys fairly broad appeal.

In politics, "base" is a term used to suggest your opponent's support is fully made up of lunatic extremist true believers and is utterly devoid of any wider, mainstream appeal.

Sir C
03-22-2018, 11:28 AM
It isnt a valid historical parallel and is thoroughly irresponsible for a chap who is supposed to oversee our diplomacy. Thoroughly undiplomatic and this is going to be incredibly offensive to Russian people. More **** stirring from a government massively out of its depth.

You and me can say it,a foreign secretary cannot. This is what you get when you give an amiable buffoon a potentially significant job.

:hehe: Have you ever met a Russian, p? It's hard to offend a Russian, given that they are the thickest-skinned of all the barbarians, and they're generally far too pissed to hear what you've said anyway.

redgunamo
03-22-2018, 11:29 AM
I sort of love the Donald :love:

He's politics with all the tedious filters off. More of this sort of thing imo.

Damning with faint praise? I reckon he deserves better than that; he may even be a political genius, a natural.

redgunamo
03-22-2018, 11:30 AM
:hehe: Have you ever met a Russian, p? It's hard to offend a Russian, given that they are the thickest-skinned of all the barbarians, and they're generally far too pissed to hear what you've said anyway.

:hehe: Of course he hasn't. That's the point.

Sir C
03-22-2018, 11:31 AM
:hehe: Of course he hasn't. That's the point.

Is that the point? Is it?

Peter
03-22-2018, 11:40 AM
:hehe: Have you ever met a Russian, p? It's hard to offend a Russian, given that they are the thickest-skinned of all the barbarians, and they're generally far too pissed to hear what you've said anyway.

I'm a lefty. You think I never talk to Russians? Come on, man...where is your right wing paranoia when I need it? :)

I know plenty of russians, have been there several times, including a suspiciously long stay in the early 90s......

SWv2
03-22-2018, 11:41 AM
I'm a lefty. You think I never talk to Russians? Come on, man...where is your right wing paranoia when I need it? :)

I know plenty of russians, have been there several times, including a suspiciously long stay in the early 90s......

Were you in prison P?

Sir C
03-22-2018, 11:42 AM
I'm a lefty. You think I never talk to Russians? Come on, man...where is your right wing paranoia when I need it? :)

I know plenty of russians, have been there several times, including a suspiciously long stay in the early 90s......

If you went there before the liberation, saw conditions under socialism, and still espouse such a system, I am afraid I am going to have to hunt you down and kill you.

Sorry about that.

Peter
03-22-2018, 11:43 AM
If you went there before the liberation, saw conditions under socialism, and still espouse such a system, I am afraid I am going to have to hunt you down and kill you.

Sorry about that.

And yet again, I receive a death threat. Standard AWIMB experience

Peter
03-22-2018, 11:45 AM
Were you in prison P?

Of course not. I have never broken a law in my life, outside of our archaic laws regarding drug possession.

I was visiting a friend who was living in Moscow for three years. I just didnt bother going home.

Burney
03-22-2018, 11:45 AM
And yet again, I receive a death threat. Standard AWIMB experience

Fvcking hell! This is what's wrong with the world today: you can't even say you're going to kill someone without them claiming it's a death threat. :rolleyes:

Sir C
03-22-2018, 11:46 AM
And yet again, I receive a death threat. Standard AWIMB experience

:shrug: I assumed that was how you understood political discourse. Did your mates Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot teach you nothing?

Sir C
03-22-2018, 11:47 AM
Fvcking hell! This is what's wrong with the world today: you can't even say you're going to kill someone without them claiming it's a death threat. :rolleyes:

He's going to report me to the Scotch police, isn't he? :-(

redgunamo
03-22-2018, 11:50 AM
I'm a lefty. You think I never talk to Russians? Come on, man...where is your right wing paranoia when I need it? :)

I know plenty of russians, have been there several times, including a suspiciously long stay in the early 90s......

Fair enough; I stand corrected.

What do you talk about?

Peter
03-22-2018, 11:51 AM
:shrug: I assumed that was how you understood political discourse. Did your mates Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot teach you nothing?

I am a Blairite, you berk. I know nothing about killing people..... (left open for obvious jokes)

Did you see University Challenge this week? Particularly the three questions on popular music?

Burney
03-22-2018, 11:51 AM
He's going to report me to the Scotch police, isn't he? :-(

Your cats are suspiciously right-wing, to be fair.

Burney
03-22-2018, 11:52 AM
I am a Blairite, you berk. I know nothing about killing people..... (left open for obvious jokes)

Did you see University Challenge this week? Particularly the three questions on popular music?

No. I find University Challenge beneath me these days.

Apart from the maths and science questions, of course. But they don't count because they only put them in to keep the sexual inadequates happy.

Peter
03-22-2018, 11:52 AM
Fair enough; I stand corrected.

What do you talk about?

Vodka and football, mostly. I like a a good old school vodka. Not the flavoured crap they make for the kids.

Peter
03-22-2018, 11:53 AM
No. I find University Challenge beneath me these days.

Apart from the maths and science questions, of course. But they don't count because they only put them in to keep the sexual inadequates happy.

I got a question about the periodic table right. I got scared.....

Burney
03-22-2018, 11:53 AM
Vodka and football, mostly. I like a a good old school vodka. Not the flavoured crap they make for the kids.

Vodka is the dullest of all the major spirits.

FACT

Sir C
03-22-2018, 11:54 AM
I am a Blairite, you berk. I know nothing about killing people..... (left open for obvious jokes)

Did you see University Challenge this week? Particularly the three questions on popular music?

And the distance between Blair and Lenin is the width of a fag paper, as far as I'm concerned. It's the authoritarian left I have dedicated my life to fighting, and to fight shall I continue.

One was Bruce, another Zeppellin, what was the other? They didn't get them, did they? :wánkers:

Sir C
03-22-2018, 11:55 AM
No. I find University Challenge beneath me these days.

Apart from the maths and science questions, of course. But they don't count because they only put them in to keep the sexual inadequates happy.

:hehe: "Son, your ego's writing cheques your body can't cash." There's a quote from a great work of philosophy for you.

Sir C
03-22-2018, 11:56 AM
Your cats are suspiciously right-wing, to be fair.

Oh they're card-carrying BNP members, all of them. Well, two are Burmese and the other has Coon in his name, so what do you expect?

Peter
03-22-2018, 12:00 PM
And the distance between Blair and Lenin is the width of a fag paper, as far as I'm concerned. It's the authoritarian left I have dedicated my life to fighting, and to fight shall I continue.

One was Bruce, another Zeppellin, what was the other? They didn't get them, did they? :wánkers:

Knowing the field well, didnt you think the Bruce one was ludicrously hard compared to the other two? It was Adam Raised a Cain wasnt it? Compared to the solo from Stairway to Heaven it counts as ****ing obscure.

Burney
03-22-2018, 12:00 PM
:hehe: "Son, your ego's writing cheques your body can't cash." There's a quote from a great work of philosophy for you.

Well I mean...what kind of cvnt goes around knowing stuff about maths and science? Deviants, that's who.

I watched Top Gun again over Christmas. It's still ace, obvs, but the sexual politics really have not aged well.

Zulu, on the other hand, remains irreproachable.

Peter
03-22-2018, 12:00 PM
Oh they're card-carrying BNP members, all of them. Well, two are Burmese and the other has Coon in his name, so what do you expect?

All cats are right wing.

Burney
03-22-2018, 12:02 PM
All cats are right wing.

:nod: Which is why they're ace.

Sir C
03-22-2018, 12:02 PM
Knowing the field well, didnt you think the Bruce one was ludicrously hard compared to the other two? It was Adam Raised a Cain wasnt it? Compared to the solo from Stairway to Heaven it counts as ****ing obscure.

I was more concerned that the clips were apparently connected by some hideously lazy, racist tag like, 'White man guitar rock'.

Wánkers.

Anyway, any student who doesn't know "Adam Raised A Cain" must be as thick as mince. They must all listen to the Darkness album, surely?

redgunamo
03-22-2018, 12:03 PM
:hehe: "Son, your ego's writing cheques your body can't cash." There's a quote from a great work of philosophy for you.

Indeed. Well done, Guy Ritchie

http://nathanielmechaly.fr/sites/default/files/styles/w800/public/projects/ray-liotta-revolver.jpg?itok=KLrlexB1

Peter
03-22-2018, 12:12 PM
I was more concerned that the clips were apparently connected by some hideously lazy, racist tag like, 'White man guitar rock'.

Wánkers.

Anyway, any student who doesn't know "Adam Raised A Cain" must be as thick as mince. They must all listen to the Darkness album, surely?

I dont think they even know what an album is.

World's End Stella
03-22-2018, 01:00 PM
Vodka is the dullest of all the major spirits.

FACT

Have you tried rhubarb gin, Burney? I was assured by a mate that it was exceptionally good.

I tried it and it was very much meh. I know have about 2/3 of a bottle left. :-(

World's End Stella
03-22-2018, 01:04 PM
Well I mean...what kind of cvnt goes around knowing stuff about maths and science? Deviants, that's who.


People who studied it at university? :shrug:

Luis Anaconda
03-22-2018, 01:13 PM
Have you tried rhubarb gin, Burney? I was assured by a mate that it was exceptionally good.

I tried it and it was very much meh. I know have about 2/3 of a bottle left. :-(

Come to Stoke game and bring it along (I think tickets may be available)

Burney
03-22-2018, 02:14 PM
People who studied it at university? :shrug:

Exactly. Deviants.

World's End Stella
03-22-2018, 03:01 PM
Exactly. Deviants.

Nonsense. Nuclear Physics was an ace degree, mostly math and a little bit of logic, no need to memorize dates or anything, no 10,000 word essays and - most importantly - it meant I wasn't an artsy. You know, an effete, girly, wannabe man who studied things like geography and sociology and other such subjects that were clearly meant for girls.

University was simple; men studied engineering and physics and economics - everything else was for the birds.

Sadly, Master WES is an artsy. He wants to read history. Oh, the shame. :-(

Burney
03-22-2018, 03:04 PM
Nonsense. Nuclear Physics was an ace degree, mostly math and a little bit of logic, no need to memorize dates or anything, no 10,000 word essays and - most importantly - it meant I wasn't an artsy. You know, an effete, girly, wannabe man who studied things like geography and sociology and other such subjects that were clearly meant for girls.

University was simple; men studied engineering and physics and economics - everything else was for the birds.

Sadly, Master WES is an artsy. He wants to read history. Oh, the shame. :-(

Engineering students never got laid and were the butt of every other student's jokes due to their lack of social skills, poor dress sense and general autism.

This is a stone-cold FACT.

World's End Stella
03-22-2018, 03:18 PM
Engineering students never got laid and were the butt of every other student's jokes due to their lack of social skills, poor dress sense and general autism.

This is a stone-cold FACT.

Every engineer I know was very intelligent and ended up with a pretty wife and loads of money.

ALMOST A FACT

Oh, and I should have said science instead of physics as math and chemistry are clearly manly degrees. Biology much less so.

SWv2
03-22-2018, 03:20 PM
Nonsense. Nuclear Physics was an ace degree, mostly math and a little bit of logic, no need to memorize dates or anything, no 10,000 word essays and - most importantly - it meant I wasn't an artsy. You know, an effete, girly, wannabe man who studied things like geography and sociology and other such subjects that were clearly meant for girls.

University was simple; men studied engineering and physics and economics - everything else was for the birds.

Sadly, Master WES is an artsy. He wants to read history. Oh, the shame. :-(

I think you will find that is Maths and at a push Mathematics.

Burney
03-22-2018, 03:25 PM
Every engineer I know was very intelligent and ended up with a pretty wife and loads of money.

ALMOST A FACT

Oh, and I should have said science instead of physics as math and chemistry are clearly manly degrees. Biology much less so.

'Ended up with' :hehe:

I'm right, in other words.

Pokster
03-22-2018, 03:36 PM
I think you will find that is Maths and at a push Mathematics.

Math is what Goirdon Brown used to say, and he is a blindoid wrong 'un and Scottish to boot