It has been suggested that we should possibly buy a 2nd car.

[Pat Vegas]

what's a small but cool car that I will enjoy driving.

Which I will really buy for myself in disguise as a present for the wife.

[IUFG]

what's a small but cool car that I will enjoy driving.

Which I will really buy for myself in disguise as a present for the wife.

Ford Fiesta ST :thumbup:

[SWv2]

what's a small but cool car that I will enjoy driving.

Which I will really buy for myself in disguise as a present for the wife.

A cool car is a Mini but they are relatively expensive for a second car (for the Mrs).

Just get a clapped out banger.

Just like the Mrs. :cooper:

[Pat Vegas]

Ford Fiesta ST :thumbup:

I was looking at those last night.
Do Alfa Romeo do anything small?

[Sir C]

I was looking at those last night.
Do Alfa Romeo do anything small?

They do. The Mito.

You're better off with a Fiat 500 Twinair. Heaps of fun for not much money.

[Pat Vegas]

They do. The Mito.

You're better off with a Fiat 500 Twinair. Heaps of fun for not much money.

That's also an idea. it will match our 500L :hide:

[Viva Prat Vegas]

I will also consider a camper van

[SWv2]

They do. The Mito.

You're better off with a Fiat 500 Twinair. Heaps of fun for not much money.

I had a Negroni on Saturday evening as I found myself in a "cocktail bar" and was informed by the bar man that no beer was available.

Seemed to take him longer to make the ****ing thing than it did me to drink it.

A generous 4/10.

[Viva Prat Vegas]

I will buy the wife a Negroni for her to schlep around in

[SWv2]

I will buy the wife a Negroni for her to schlep around in

Just get something cheap and low insurance. I don't even know your Mrs but I can be reasonably confident she doesn't need anything else.

[Pat Vegas]

Just get something cheap and low insurance. I don't even know your Mrs but I can be reasonably confident she doesn't need anything else.

This Prat Vegas causes nothing but confusion.

Will there be room for my wife?

[Alberto Balsam Rodriguez]

what's a small but cool car that I will enjoy driving.

Which I will really buy for myself in disguise as a present for the wife.


Mazda MX5 imo

[IUFG]

Mazda MX5 imo

MX5? - Fun to drive, quickish, rear wheel drive. all good. impractical as fúck.

Fiesta ST - not the quickest (but quicker than the MX5) but handles like a dream. Has rear seats and a boot.

Not driven the Peugeot Sport GTi but apparently that is good fun too.

The Fiat Arbarth 595 is fun too, but too small and noisy as fúck.

[Sir C]

MX5? - Fun to drive, quickish, rear wheel drive. all good. impractical as fúck.

Fiesta ST - not the quickest (but quicker than the MX5) but handles like a dream. Has rear seats and a boot.

Not driven the Peugeot Sport GTi but apparently that is good fun too.

The Fiat Arbarth 595 is fun too, but too small and noisy as fúck.

Other than the Mazda, these cars are all front wheel drive. If you want to drive quickly, buying a front wheel drive car is like eating Quorn because you fancy a steak.

Man up. You want a car driven the way God intended. From the rear.

[IUFG]

Man up. You want a car driven the way God intended. From the rear.

man up? who doesn't like wrestling with a bit of torque-steer?

The reality is, of course, four wheel drive is the way to go.

Rear wheel drive? useless in the wet, snow and ice and there is not a lot of drifting to be done on the urban streets.
I understand why a lot like rear wheel drive tbf, but you have turn all the electronics off to properly enjoy it.
And I prefer to drive on the road and not in the ditch.

[SWv2]

Other than the Mazda, these cars are all front wheel drive. If you want to drive quickly, buying a front wheel drive car is like eating Quorn because you fancy a steak.

Man up. You want a car driven the way God intended. From the rear.

I assumed the car was for Mrs Fash.

[Alberto Balsam Rodriguez]

MX5? - Fun to drive, quickish, rear wheel drive. all good. impractical as fúck.

Fiesta ST - not the quickest (but quicker than the MX5) but handles like a dream. Has rear seats and a boot.

Not driven the Peugeot Sport GTi but apparently that is good fun too.

The Fiat Arbarth 595 is fun too, but too small and noisy as fúck.


It's a 2nd car, IUFG. Practical shouldn't be a requirement. That is what the 1st car is meant to be.

[IUFG]

It's a 2nd car, IUFG. Practical shouldn't be a requirement. That is what the 1st car is meant to be.

wrong.

Your car and her car need to be practical.

the third car is the one that doesn't need to be and will also require a small fortune in fuel, tyres and servicing costs, annually.

[Alberto Balsam Rodriguez]

wrong.

Your car and her car need to be practical.

the third car is the one that doesn't need to be and will also require a small fortune in fuel, tyres and servicing costs, annually.


:facepalm:

[SWv2]

wrong.

Your car and her car need to be practical.

the third car is the one that doesn't need to be and will also require a small fortune in fuel, tyres and servicing costs, annually.

3 cars?

Who the fúck are you, Ronaldo?

[IUFG]

3 cars?

Who the fúck are you, Ronaldo?

I've got two. She's got one.

They are hardly PEA17 cars, either...

[Sir C]

I had a Negroni on Saturday evening as I found myself in a "cocktail bar" and was informed by the bar man that no beer was available.

Seemed to take him longer to make the ****ing thing than it did me to drink it.

A generous 4/10.

I told you you wouldn't like it.

The enjoyment of such beverages requires a sophistication of palate unknown on the blighted island, sw.

[Sir C]

man up? who doesn't like wrestling with a bit of torque-steer?

The reality is, of course, four wheel drive is the way to go.

Rear wheel drive? useless in the wet, snow and ice and there is not a lot of drifting to be done on the urban streets.
I understand why a lot like rear wheel drive tbf, but you have turn all the electronics off to properly enjoy it.
And I prefer to drive on the road and not in the ditch.

1. Torque steer is as enjoyable as a anal rape.
2. Four wheel drive is excellent under slippery conditions but worse than worthless for enjoayble fast driving.
3. By 'useless' I believe you mean, 'huge fun'?
4. If you can't hang the tail out and steer on the throttle around the average UK roundabout, you're not trying.
5. If you're in the ditch you need more training.

I say these things not to hurt, i, but to educate.

NB: My current fleet includes a Caterham Seven, rear wheel drive car lacking any form of electronic trickery, an Aston Vantage in which I switch the traction control and DSC off if wishing to hustle along in a fun manner, and a Jeep Grand Cherokee for when it snows. The glw has a front wheel drive car, which is just as it should be.

[IUFG]

1. Torque steer is as enjoyable as a anal rape.

I say these things not to hurt, i, but to educate


I can only speak of experience of one of your comparators, sc...

ty, I shall be educated by your experience, rather than my own in this matter.

[Pokster]

1. Torque steer is as enjoyable as a anal rape.
2. Four wheel drive is excellent under slippery conditions but worse than worthless for enjoayble fast driving.
3. By 'useless' I believe you mean, 'huge fun'?
4. If you can't hang the tail out and steer on the throttle around the average UK roundabout, you're not trying.
5. If you're in the ditch you need more training.

I say these things not to hurt, i, but to educate.

NB: My current fleet includes a Caterham Seven, rear wheel drive car lacking any form of electronic trickery, an Aston Vantage in which I switch the traction control and DSC off if wishing to hustle along in a fun manner, and a Jeep Grand Cherokee for when it snows. The glw has a front wheel drive car, which is just as it should be.

Doesn't Pat/Fash live in London, so having anything fun is a waste of time as you won't get above 30mph 90% of the time

[Sir C]

Doesn't Pat/Fash live in London, so having anything fun is a waste of time as you won't get above 30mph 90% of the time

If only there were some way of moving a car away from its position, perhaps a few miles outside London where there is less traffic... no, can't think of one. He could take it apart and transport it bit by bit, I suppose.

[Sir C]

I can only speak of experience of one of your comparators, sc...

ty, I shall be educated by your experience, rather than my own in this matter.

You must remember that I am most extraordinarily old, i; the wisdom of the ages is upon me.

[Alberto Balsam Rodriguez]

If only there were some way of moving a car away from its position, perhaps a few miles outside London where there is less traffic... no, can't think of one. He could take it apart and transport it bit by bit, I suppose.


Don't be silly, c. He could get a pick up truck!

[Viva Prat Vegas]

Or drive around the M25 at 3 in the morning

[Pokster]

If only there were some way of moving a car away from its position, perhaps a few miles outside London where there is less traffic... no, can't think of one. He could take it apart and transport it bit by bit, I suppose.

He doesn't strike me as the sort to venture outside the Capital....

[Sir C]

Don't be silly, c. He could get a pick up truck!

To pick the car up? Good plan, a. Then he could get a crane in to pick the car and truck combo up.

That still leaves us the problem of how we're going to shift the things elsewhere.

[SWv2]

I told you you wouldn't like it.

The enjoyment of such beverages requires a sophistication of palate unknown on the blighted island, sw.

I drank it.

:shrug:

[Viva Prat Vegas]

Must have been free

[Pat Vegas]

Doesn't Pat/Fash live in London, so having anything fun is a waste of time as you won't get above 30mph 90% of the time


Essex soon Pokster.

[Pokster]

Essex soon Pokster.

Where in Essex? Going to be steaming up the A12 to Suffolk? or are you heading out to Southend to cruise along the sea front

[SWv2]

Essex soon Pokster.

Chelmsford was it?

Best place to live in that region by all accounts.

[IUFG]

Essex soon Pokster.

well, here is the perfect car for you imo
https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NjA5WDEwMjQ=/z/TrUAAOSwLnBX6RUd/$_86.JPG

won for sale in Canvey Island too...

www.gumtree.com/cars/uk/ford+escort+xr3i

[Pat Vegas]

Chelmsford was it?

Best place to live in that region by all accounts.

Nah down by Lakeside :hide:

though £20 a year will give me 'free' goes on the Dartford crossing.

[Pokster]

Chelmsford was it?

Best place to live in that region by all accounts.

Not a bad place, prefer it a bit further North (but biased as I lived in Kelvedon)... don't want to get too close to Peter as he will drive him off the road

[Sir C]

Nah down by Lakeside :hide:

though £20 a year will give me 'free' goes on the Dartford crossing.

We can meet at Bluewater for shawarma, f :cloud9:

[Pat Vegas]

We can meet at Bluewater for shawarma, f :cloud9:

Deal see you there Sir C.

[Pokster]

Deal see you there Sir C.

Deal's in Kent p

[Pat Vegas]

Deal's in Kent p

so is Bluewater.

[Pokster]

so is Bluewater.

Bugger, i was thinking of Lakeside.... large shopping hells merge into 1

[Pat Vegas]

Bugger, i was thinking of Lakeside.... large shopping hells merge into 1

I'm quite happy with the retail options in the area.
saves me having to do shopping on weekends.

and the costco has a petrol station :cloud9:

[SWv2]

I'm quite happy with the retail options in the area.

and the costco has a petrol station :cloud9:

What's your nearest pub like?

[Pat Vegas]

What's your nearest pub like?

I know someone who knows the owners seems good to me.

[SWv2]

I know someone who knows the owners seems good to me.

Are you going to get your own pewter tankard to hang behind the bar?

[Sir C]

Deal see you there Sir C.

Bluewater's much nicer than Lakeside, f. More upmarketer, like.

[Pat Vegas]

Bluewater's much nicer than Lakeside, f. More upmarketer, like.

But lakeside has a taco bell which I have never tried.
and looks crap too :cloud9:

[Sir C]

But lakeside has a taco bell which I have never tried.
and looks crap too :cloud9:

When Lakeside first opened, must have been early 90s, there was an Italian restaurant which served proper pizza. Probably the first place I ate real pizza in UK.

It was really nice, that place. Everything changes :-(

[PSRB]

Bugger, i was thinking of Lakeside.... large shopping hells merge into 1

Now, see I used to think that but now we live a stones throw from Trafford Centre, it's brilliant. If it's packed I can just turn around and go home with no bother. Clearly it's a complete no-go zone from November to mid-January though.

[Alberto Balsam Rodriguez]

To pick the car up? Good plan, a. Then he could get a crane in to pick the car and truck combo up.

That still leaves us the problem of how we're going to shift the things elsewhere.


One thing at a time, c. We have a plan to get this out of the City.

[redgunamo]

what's a small but cool car that I will enjoy driving.

Which I will really buy for myself in disguise as a present for the wife.

Is she expecting, P? If not, let her buy her own car.

[taxman10]

1. Torque steer is as enjoyable as a anal rape.
2. Four wheel drive is excellent under slippery conditions but worse than worthless for enjoayble fast driving.
3. By 'useless' I believe you mean, 'huge fun'?
4. If you can't hang the tail out and steer on the throttle around the average UK roundabout, you're not trying.
5. If you're in the ditch you need more training.

I say these things not to hurt, i, but to educate.

NB: My current fleet includes a Caterham Seven, rear wheel drive car lacking any form of electronic trickery, an Aston Vantage in which I switch the traction control and DSC off if wishing to hustle along in a fun manner, and a Jeep Grand Cherokee for when it snows. The glw has a front wheel drive car, which is just as it should be.

My murcialago is 4 wheel drive(lp640) so I would disagree with your point 2

[Sir C]

My murcialago is 4 wheel drive(lp640) so I would disagree with your point 2

Fair enough t; that is a matter of taste. I'm very much a traditionalist, I'm afraid. I drove an Audi Quattro for a while back in the day, and it just didn't do it for me.

[IUFG]

Fair enough t; that is a matter of taste. I'm very much a traditionalist, I'm afraid. I drove an Audi Quattro for a while back in the day, and it just didn't do it for me.

Have you driven the ultimate in chav cars, an Evo or STi, sc?

fúcking brilliant, they are... :hide:

[Sir C]

Have you driven the ultimate in chav cars, an Evo or STi, sc?

fúcking brilliant, they are... :hide:

I have indeed, i. :hehe: Lots of fun. I had a mate who had a Scoobydoo Impreza with a massive aftermarket turbocharger. That was simply mental.

[IUFG]

I have indeed, i. :hehe: Lots of fun. I had a mate who had a Scoobydoo Impreza with a massive aftermarket turbocharger. That was simply mental.

I had an Evo 9 as my toy car for a while. Fúcking blistering pace and handled like t was on rails.

I used to spend around £1,500 a year on tires alone.

I wish I had kept it tbh.

[Pat Vegas]

I knew this was a dangerous idea.
Now I am thinking of other cars.

[Sir C]

I had an Evo 9 as my toy car for a while. Fúcking blistering pace and handled like t was on rails.

I used to spend around £1,500 a year on tires alone.

I wish I had kept it tbh.

Cars used to be so much fun :cry:

I drove an M3 as my main car from 1994 to 2014. Changed for a new one every 2 years, that's about 10 cars, isn't it? Every single one was wonderfully entertaining and riduclously cheap.

[SWv2]

I had an Evo 9 as my toy car for a while. Fúcking blistering pace and handled like t was on rails.

I used to spend around £1,500 a year on tires alone.

I wish I had kept it tbh.

**** for the big shop all the same.

[Sir C]

I knew this was a dangerous idea.
Now I am thinking of other cars.

One of these, f. Magnificent cars.

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds?Category=used-cars&M=264&Option=1

[IUFG]

**** for the big shop all the same.

no, perfectly good boot space. 5 seats, etc., sw

Just a rock hard ride (previous owner had Eibach'd it up) and any passengers get thrown around a little.

You wouldn't really want to cruise a motorway in it. If you did, you had to do 60mph to get any decent mpg out of it and you could feel every, single, ****ing lump, crack, stone on the road.

[IUFG]

I knew this was a dangerous idea.
Now I am thinking of other cars.

go for it, f :thumbup:

[Pat Vegas]

go for it, f :thumbup:

Range rover might be over doing it?
still i don't have any kids so why not.

[IUFG]

Range rover might be over doing it?
still i don't have any kids so why not.

exactly. if you can afford it, indulge yourself...