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World's End Stella
03-16-2018, 10:47 AM
I popped on to the Guardian's website to see if I could find something on the Russia situation that would really wind me up.

And with the second click I found this:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/mar/16/skripal-attack-talk-war-vladimir-putin-theresa-may

:yikes:

Sir C
03-16-2018, 10:49 AM
I popped on to the Guardian's website to see if I could find something on the Russia situation that would really wind me up.

And with the second click I could found this:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/mar/16/skripal-attack-talk-war-vladimir-putin-theresa-may

:yikes:

Don't even need to read that. Simon Jenkins = 'It's all our fault.' :shrug:

They hate us, lefties. Traitors to a man.

PSRB
03-16-2018, 10:54 AM
Don't even need to read that. Simon Jenkins = 'It's all our fault.' :shrug:

They hate us, lefties. Traitors to a man.

J is having a conspiracy theory field day on Twitter.

World's End Stella
03-16-2018, 11:03 AM
J is having a conspiracy theory field day on Twitter.

He'd be brilliant on here right now. :hehe:

Any chance you can ask him for a brief return for entertainment's sake?

Peter
03-16-2018, 11:22 AM
I popped on to the Guardian's website to see if I could find something on the Russia situation that would really wind me up.

And with the second click I found this:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/mar/16/skripal-attack-talk-war-vladimir-putin-theresa-may

:yikes:

The only thing that is truly irritating about this piece is that it is total *******s, littered with half-arsed history and quotes from Freud et al. It doesn't actually say anything than that May and a selection of our politicians are idiots, which we kind of knew already.

Burney
03-16-2018, 11:31 AM
I popped on to the Guardian's website to see if I could find something on the Russia situation that would really wind me up.

And with the second click I found this:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/mar/16/skripal-attack-talk-war-vladimir-putin-theresa-may

:yikes:

This is the same man who cuts and pastes an article after every Islamic terror attack going on about how we mustn't overreact because that's what the terrorists want, though. He's a dyed-in-the-wool appeaser.

This was funny yesterday. An actual molecular chemist ripping Corbynite conspiracy theorists a new one. :hehe:

https://twitter.com/corbyn50plus/status/974011990254538754

Burney
03-16-2018, 11:33 AM
J is having a conspiracy theory field day on Twitter.

Dear God! :rolleyes:

My favourite one was when Livingstone suggested May had staged a chemical weapons attack on British soil in order to do better in the council elections. :hehe:

Peter
03-16-2018, 11:41 AM
This is the same man who cuts and pastes an article after every Islamic terror attack going on about how we mustn't overreact because that's what the terrorists want, though. He's a dyed-in-the-wool appeaser.

This was funny yesterday. An actual molecular chemist ripping Corbynite conspiracy theorists a new one. :hehe:

https://twitter.com/corbyn50plus/status/974011990254538754

Yes, I did note his lamenting that we are treating post cold war Russia the way we treated post-Versailles Germany (we are not, at all). He fails to point out that a decade later we decided being nasty hadn't worked and followed a policy of appeasement that,although wonderfully well intentioned and enlightened, pushed us and Europe to the brink of catastrophe.

PSRB
03-16-2018, 11:41 AM
This is the same man who cuts and pastes an article after every Islamic terror attack going on about how we mustn't overreact because that's what the terrorists want, though. He's a dyed-in-the-wool appeaser.

This was funny yesterday. An actual molecular chemist ripping Corbynite conspiracy theorists a new one. :hehe:

https://twitter.com/corbyn50plus/status/974011990254538754

:hehe: and still some nutters trying to say the molecular chemist is wrong!

Burney
03-16-2018, 11:47 AM
Yes, I did note his lamenting that we are treating post cold war Russia the way we treated post-Versailles Germany (we are not, at all). He fails to point out that a decade later we decided being nasty hadn't worked and followed a policy of appeasement that,although wonderfully well intentioned and enlightened, pushed us and Europe to the brink of catastrophe.

If you were to argue that it would have been wise and enlightened for the West to have instituted a Marshall-style plan for post-Soviet Russia, I would tend to concur. I think the failure to do so represented a significant oversight. However, that ship sailed a long time ago and what we are left with is a profoundly hostile and expansionist nationalist Russia led by a keen psychopath. Quite how 'nice' he wants us to be to such a state I don't really know.