A word or two if I may about the capture of the two ISIS reptiles.

[Herbert Augustus Chapman]

I am getting very hot under the collar at the BBC's insistence on calling them 'fighters'. They are no such thing. They
have simply tormented, tortured and murdered unarmed, bound men.

I don't want them to be tried here. They will use our courts to spend at least two years boasting and crowing about their exploits, safe in the knowledge that their life sentences will equate to about eight years apiece, probably less after an army of Guardianista luvvies adopt them as a cause célèbre. (would be even worse should they stand trial at The Hague).

I'd rather see them tried where they will be facing execution. Actually, I'd rather see them summarily strung up and save the bother of a trial and yes, it does mean they have dragged me down to their level. Fúck justice, I want retribution.

[Sir C]

I am getting very hot under the collar at the BBC's insistence on calling them 'fighters'. They are no such thing. They
have simply tormented, tortured and murdered unarmed, bound men.

I don't want them to be tried here. They will use our courts to spend at least two years boasting and crowing about their exploits, safe in the knowledge that their life sentences will equate to about eight years apiece, probably less after an army of Guardianista luvvies adopt them as a cause célèbre. (would be even worse should they stand trial at The Hague).

I'd rather see them tried where they will be facing execution. Actually, I'd rather see them summarily strung up and save the bother of a trial and yes, it does mean they have dragged me down to their level. Fúck justice, I want retribution.

Have you ever burnt down a paediatrician's house, h?

[Peter]

I am getting very hot under the collar at the BBC's insistence on calling them 'fighters'. They are no such thing. They
have simply tormented, tortured and murdered unarmed, bound men.

I don't want them to be tried here. They will use our courts to spend at least two years boasting and crowing about their exploits, safe in the knowledge that their life sentences will equate to about eight years apiece, probably less after an army of Guardianista luvvies adopt them as a cause célèbre. (would be even worse should they stand trial at The Hague).

I'd rather see them tried where they will be facing execution. Actually, I'd rather see them summarily strung up and save the bother of a trial and yes, it does mean they have dragged me down to their level. Fúck justice, I want retribution.

Nothing quite like 'angry mob' outrage. You also managed to squeeze in a reference to media luvvies, the EU and the term 'cause celebre'.

Excellent all round :)

[SWv2]

I am getting very hot under the collar at the BBC's insistence on calling them 'fighters'. They are no such thing. They
have simply tormented, tortured and murdered unarmed, bound men.

I don't want them to be tried here. They will use our courts to spend at least two years boasting and crowing about their exploits, safe in the knowledge that their life sentences will equate to about eight years apiece, probably less after an army of Guardianista luvvies adopt them as a cause célèbre. (would be even worse should they stand trial at The Hague).

I'd rather see them tried where they will be facing execution. Actually, I'd rather see them summarily strung up and save the bother of a trial and yes, it does mean they have dragged me down to their level. Fúck justice, I want retribution.

Whatever happened to being innocent until proven guilty.

[Burney]

Nothing quite like 'angry mob' outrage. You also managed to squeeze in a reference to media luvvies, the EU and the term 'cause celebre'.

Excellent all round :)

I tend to agree with h, tbh. They renounced their British citizenship, so why should they be afforded the protections and privileges it provides? Fück 'em. I'm rather disappointed the Kurds haven't already cut their appurtenances off and started flaying them already, tbh.

[Sir C]

Whatever happened to being innocent until proven guilty.

That's right out of the window these days. Some bird says you looked at her funny 12 years ago? BOSH! Sex criminal!

[Herbert Augustus Chapman]

Don't be ridiclules c. I did once whip up a lynch mob outside of a podiatrist's house.

[Ash]

I am getting very hot under the collar at the BBC's insistence on calling them 'fighters'. They are no such thing. They
have simply tormented, tortured and murdered unarmed, bound men.

I don't want them to be tried here. They will use our courts to spend at least two years boasting and crowing about their exploits, safe in the knowledge that their life sentences will equate to about eight years apiece, probably less after an army of Guardianista luvvies adopt them as a cause célèbre. (would be even worse should they stand trial at The Hague).

I'd rather see them tried where they will be facing execution. Actually, I'd rather see them summarily strung up and save the bother of a trial and yes, it does mean they have dragged me down to their level. Fúck justice, I want retribution.

Where were they captured? Link?

[Herbert Augustus Chapman]

Well I might have known you would side with the terrorists S.

Anyway, presumptions of innocence and fair trials cannot be afforded to men who wear handkerchiefs on their heads. it's insanitary. A decent chap keeps his hankie in his pocket.

[Burney]

That's right out of the window these days. Some bird says you looked at her funny 12 years ago? BOSH! Sex criminal!

More to the point, innocent until proven guilty relates to British citizens who make themselves subject to British law. These jokers went off to another country, declared themselves citizens of the Islamic state and thus enemies of the British crown. By their own lights they consider themselves at war, so are now defeated, non-uniformed combatants whom the Kurds would be well within their rights to shoot out of hand.
Frankly, I can't believe nobody in MI6 had a quiet word with the chaps on the ground and suggested that if these gobshïtes were discreetly strung up, we'd be more than happy to cop a blind 'un.

[Herbert Augustus Chapman]

Shame their isn't some kind of online program that allows folk to look this sort of thing up A.

[Sir C]

More to the point, innocent until proven guilty relates to British citizens who make themselves subject to British law. These jokers went off to another country, declared themselves citizens of the Islamic state and thus enemies of the British crown. By their own lights they consider themselves at war, so are now defeated, non-uniformed combatants whom the Kurds would be well within their rights to shoot out of hand.
Frankly, I can't believe nobody in MI6 had a quiet word with the chaps on the ground and suggested that if these gobshïtes were discreetly strung up, we'd be more than happy to cop a blind 'un.

We don't appear to be all that keen on treating the Kurds particularly as allies, it seems to me. I'm guessing they're a pretty dreadful bunch, but anyone prepared to knock the shít out of ISISers and Paulines seems to me a chap worth cultivating.

[Herbert Augustus Chapman]

Oh don't worry b. Our Kurdish friends will doubtless be having a little sport with them before they are handed over.

If they are tried in the US any chance of them being executed there? Not sure how the laws of the hanging states work.

[Burney]

We don't appear to be all that keen on treating the Kurds particularly as allies, it seems to me. I'm guessing they're a pretty dreadful bunch, but anyone prepared to knock the shít out of ISISers and Paulines seems to me a chap worth cultivating.

Yes, well we're still behaving as if Turkey were actually an ally rather than what it actually now is under Erdogan - a threat. As a result, we don't want to be seen as being too pally with the Kurd. That and - as you say - because these chaps are undoubtedly ghastly and have some awful habits.

[Sir C]

Where were they captured? Link?

This may be the single worst development brought about by the internets - the demand, during any conversation for a 'link' to substantiate the point be ing made.

Answer me this. Twenty years ago, if you were having a conversation at the bar with your friend and he said, 'Of course those ISIS chaps have been captured...' would you have leaned in and screamed, 'LINK!' into his face, or would you have been polite enough to assume, for the purposes of the conversation, that your friend hadn't just made up some random stuff, but was telling the truth?

A: Hello dear, did you have a nice day at the office?

Mrs A: Yes, it was Sarah's birthday and we had a lovely lunch.

A: LINK? LINKYLINKY? i DON'T BELIEVE YOU YOU LYING BITCH!

[Peter]

More to the point, innocent until proven guilty relates to British citizens who make themselves subject to British law. These jokers went off to another country, declared themselves citizens of the Islamic state and thus enemies of the British crown. By their own lights they consider themselves at war, so are now defeated, non-uniformed combatants whom the Kurds would be well within their rights to shoot out of hand.
Frankly, I can't believe nobody in MI6 had a quiet word with the chaps on the ground and suggested that if these gobshïtes were discreetly strung up, we'd be more than happy to cop a blind 'un.

If we are at war and they renounced the crown then it is high treason.

[SWv2]

This may be the single worst development brought about by the internets - the demand, during any conversation for a 'link' to substantiate the point be ing made.

Answer me this. Twenty years ago, if you were having a conversation at the bar with your friend and he said, 'Of course those ISIS chaps have been captured...' would you have leaned in and screamed, 'LINK!' into his face, or would you have been polite enough to assume, for the purposes of the conversation, that your friend hadn't just made up some random stuff, but was telling the truth?

A: Hello dear, did you have a nice day at the office?

Mrs A: Yes, it was Sarah's birthday and we had a lovely lunch.

A: LINK? LINKYLINKY? i DON'T BELIEVE YOU YOU LYING BITCH!

Were ISIS active 20 years ago?

[Burney]

Oh don't worry b. Our Kurdish friends will doubtless be having a little sport with them before they are handed over.

If they are tried in the US any chance of them being executed there? Not sure how the laws of the hanging states work.


:nod: Probably being buggered from arsehole to breakfast time as we speak, h. You know what these towelheaded types are like. We've all seen Lawrence of Arabia and remember when he got what he called his 'citadel of integrity' smashed in.

[Burney]

If we are at war and they renounced the crown then it is high treason.

Yes. It is. But we won't try them for that, will we? Besides, you can't even execute people for that these days thanks to Brussels. :furious:

No, we'll send them on a deradicalisation course so they come out just as radicalised and claiming benefits.

[Burney]

This may be the single worst development brought about by the internets

It's not as bad as people constantly bombarding you on social media with pictures of baldy cancer kids who want to go to Disneyland or similar fückery imo. They can fück right off, the depressing little cünts.

[Sir C]

Were ISIS active 20 years ago?

I don't know I'll look for a LINK!

[Sir C]

It's not as bad as people constantly bombarding you on social media with pictures of baldy cancer kids who want to go to Disneyland or similar fückery imo. They can fück right off, the depressing little cünts.

Link? You can't bandy cancerkids around without a link.

[Ash]

Shame their isn't some kind of online program that allows folk to look this sort of thing up A.

I expect their is.

The reason why I asked for a link is not so much because I am incapable of researching Syria online (which I unfortunately know more about than you do about OOP Encapsulation, my friend) but because I am interested in your chosen source (if it was TV news, than you could just say that) which will frame the scenario in a way that may influence your perception of that conflict.

[Ash]

This may be the single worst development brought about by the internets - the demand, during any conversation for a 'link' to substantiate the point be ing made.

Answer me this. Twenty years ago, if you were having a conversation at the bar with your friend and he said, 'Of course those ISIS chaps have been captured...' would you have leaned in and screamed, 'LINK!' into his face, or would you have been polite enough to assume, for the purposes of the conversation, that your friend hadn't just made up some random stuff, but was telling the truth?

A: Hello dear, did you have a nice day at the office?

Mrs A: Yes, it was Sarah's birthday and we had a lovely lunch.

A: LINK? LINKYLINKY? i DON'T BELIEVE YOU YOU LYING BITCH!

Easy does it now. See my reply to my Chapman.

I wasn't even shouting. :shrug:

[Herbert Augustus Chapman]

I expect their is.

The reason why I asked for a link is not so much because I am incapable of researching Syria online (which I unfortunately know more about than you do about OOP Encapsulation, my friend) but because I am interested in your chosen source (if it was TV news, than you could just say that) which will frame the scenario in a way that may influence your perception of that conflict.

Why should being an authority on Syria be unfortunate A? (apart from such pompous self proclamation making you look a bit of an arse).

[Ash]

Why should being an authority on Syria be unfortunate A? (apart from such pompous self proclamation making you look a bit of an arse).

Because it is depressing. And yes, I was joking about the authority - I just wanted to show you that I was above the jobbee jokes tbh.
Why is it depressing? Because our government is effectively supporting these scumbags by aiding "fighters" who generally turn out in the end to be ISIS and AQ. Do you believe the bullcrap about Assad using Sarin gas, btw? The 'sources' for these claims are usually the so-called "White Helmets" who are basically a propaganda wing of AQ, and who are supported by MI6 and the CIA.

[Monty92]

Because it is depressing. And yes, I was joking about the authority - I just wanted to show you that I was above the jobbee jokes tbh.
Why is it depressing? Because our government is effectively supporting these scumbags by aiding "fighters" who generally turn out in the end to be ISIS and AQ. Do you believe the bullcrap about Assad using Sarin gas, btw? The 'sources' for these claims are usually the so-called "White Helmets" who are basically a propaganda wing of AQ, and who are supported by MI6 and the CIA.

You'd enjoy this:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04b183c

Lots of background info on Syria under the rule of Assad's father and how they were very probably responsible for Lockerbie.