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redgunamo
01-18-2018, 11:51 AM
In the near future, he will fulfill his dream of wearing the #10 shirt, whilst Wilsh will ascend to #7; "Manc" Mickie will take over Özil's outside left jersey and the new BALU will attempt to fill Theo's shoes at 14.

Load of old sh1te, imo, and will cost me a fortune.

SWv2
01-18-2018, 11:53 AM
In the near future, he will fulfill his dream of wearing the #10 shirt, whilst Wilsh will ascend to #7; "Manc" Mickie will take over Özil's outside left jersey and the new BALU will attempt to fill Theo's shoes at 14.

Load of old sh1te, imo, and will cost me a fortune.

Source??????

redgunamo
01-18-2018, 11:57 AM
Source??????

The internets :-\

The Rob2
01-18-2018, 12:01 PM
can you imagine that tosser joins man united as well? i'd probably have to kill myself

SWv2
01-18-2018, 12:02 PM
The internets :-\

I will never ever warn you again.

PSRB
01-18-2018, 12:30 PM
Source??????

Alan 'Smudger' Smith


I have always said that he'd stay and Sanchez would go

7sisters
01-18-2018, 12:39 PM
Alan 'Smudger' Smith


I have always said that he'd stay and Sanchez would go

It wouldn't surprise me if the only January inbound is Mkhitaryan :shrug:
The Aubameyang story still seems very much a media punt.

SWv2
01-18-2018, 12:40 PM
Alan 'Smudger' Smith


I have always said that he'd stay and Sanchez would go

This indeed is true, though he may yet leave.

Rich
01-18-2018, 12:44 PM
It wouldn't surprise me if the only January inbound is Mkhitaryan :shrug:
The Aubameyang story still seems very much a media punt.

Agree that it looks like that. Maybe Jonny Evans too which I think would represent good business - Alexis, Coq, Walcott out with Mikhtaryian and Evans in. A small net profit and rid of some deadwood.

On Auba Wenger said it's not close. BVB say no contact made by Arsenal and their manager has issued a statement telling Arsene that he should worry about his own players and not Dortmund's.

I suppose you can't blame Arsene for the things the media completely fabricate.

redgunamo
01-18-2018, 12:44 PM
This indeed is true, though he may yet leave.

Oh, of course, it's all just banter. But no less serious for all that.

Luis Anaconda
01-18-2018, 12:45 PM
Agree that it looks like that. Maybe Jonny Evans too which I think would represent good business - Alexis, Coq, Walcott out with Mikhtaryian and Evans in. A small net profit and rid of some deadwood.

On Auba Wenger said it's not close. BVB say no contact made by Arsenal and their manager has issued a statement telling Arsene that he should worry about his own players and not Dortmund's.

I suppose you can't blame Arsene for the things the media completely fabricate.
Says the retard who creams himself everytime we are linked to any sort of half decent player

Rich
01-18-2018, 12:48 PM
Says the retard who creams himself everytime we are linked to any sort of half decent player

I'm sorry, LA. I will endeavor to remain neutral & not get excited about Arsenal signing top players.

My comment stands that it would be quite a satisfying window, even with just the Alexis Vs Henrikh swap.

Luis Anaconda
01-18-2018, 12:51 PM
I'm sorry, LA. I will endeavor to remain neutral & not get excited about Arsenal signing top players.

My comment stands that it would be quite a satisfying window, even with just the Alexis Vs Henrikh swap.

:thumbup: Best not to. Alexis swap and one other defender midfielder i'll be happy. And keeping Özil and Jack :cloud9:

Rich
01-18-2018, 12:52 PM
:thumbup: Best not to. Alexis swap and one other defender midfielder i'll be happy. And keeping Özil and Jack :cloud9:

If Jack is happy to accept a pay cut, that is.

SWv2
01-18-2018, 01:02 PM
Agree that it looks like that. Maybe Jonny Evans too which I think would represent good business - Alexis, Coq, Walcott out with Mikhtaryian and Evans in. A small net profit and rid of some deadwood.

On Auba Wenger said it's not close. BVB say no contact made by Arsenal and their manager has issued a statement telling Arsene that he should worry about his own players and not Dortmund's.

I suppose you can't blame Arsene for the things the media completely fabricate.

Dick old boy, not wishing to pick an argument but can you clarify how at this point, January 18th, it now looks like MO will stay?

By all means think he will, have a gut feel he will, but I am unsure how it looks like he will stay when he has we believe refused all efforts to stay up to now. He is free as a bird in 13 days time, makes little sense really.

Rich
01-18-2018, 01:06 PM
Dick old boy, not wishing to pick an argument but can you clarify how at this point, January 18th, it now looks like MO will stay?

By all means think he will, have a gut feel he will, but I am unsure how it looks like he will stay when he has we believe refused all efforts to stay up to now. He is free as a bird in 13 days time, makes little sense really.

I was agreeing with the fact that Henrikh will be our only signing. Which is great because it continues the tradition of transfer window profits for the club.

SWv2
01-18-2018, 01:27 PM
I was agreeing with the fact that Henrikh will be our only signing. Which is great because it continues the tradition of transfer window profits for the club.

My apologies, though I reserve the right to insult you as I wish.

Personally I find the whole thing incredibly and increasingly tedious though will agree that HM coming into the club is at least something good coming from a very sorry mess.

I look forward to booing Sanchez in the future.

Pokster
01-18-2018, 01:34 PM
I was agreeing with the fact that Henrikh will be our only signing. Which is great because it continues the tradition of transfer window profits for the club.

Why is it great that we make a profit in the transfer window while the team/squad gets weaker?

SWv2
01-18-2018, 01:37 PM
Why is it great that we make a profit in the transfer window while the team/squad gets weaker?

Hush baldy, I think he is in character.

Rich
01-18-2018, 01:38 PM
Why is it great that we make a profit in the transfer window while the team/squad gets weaker?

Well the befefits are four-fold, really.

1. We had created a squad with a CL wage structure. Now that we look highly likely to be without CL football for several years, cuts need to be made to keep the club's financial health sound.

2. We get rid of players that have no interest in being at the club.

3. We've got rid of deadwood in Coqulein and Walcott, got rid of players with appauling attitudes (Alexis) and replaced with Mikitahyrian who is quality.

4. It frees up wage budget to get Ozil to stay because we were likely unable to meet his wage demands prior to that.

Pokster
01-18-2018, 01:39 PM
Well the befefits are four-fold, really.

1. We had created a squad with a CL wage structure. Now that we look highly likely to be without CL football for several years, cuts need to be made to keep the club's financial health sound.

2. We get rid of players that have no interest in being at the club.

3. We've got rid of deadwood in Coqulein and Walcott, got rid of players with appauling attitudes (Alexis) and replaced with Mikitahyrian who is quality.

4. It frees up wage budget to get Ozil to stay because we were likely unable to meet his wage demands prior to that.

You are funny

Rich
01-18-2018, 01:41 PM
You are funny

I appreciate that these are harsh realities and quite agree that humour is often a good way to face them.

Pokster
01-18-2018, 01:44 PM
I appreciate that these are harsh realities and quite agree that humour is often a good way to face them.

So increased commercial revenue, increased tv/broadcasting money doesn't help... I know lets sell all of our players and we can make a nice huge profit and save buckeyloads on wages.

I dispair if the club doesn't aim to get nearer the top of the league by investing in better players

Peter
01-18-2018, 01:52 PM
So increased commercial revenue, increased tv/broadcasting money doesn't help... I know lets sell all of our players and we can make a nice huge profit and save buckeyloads on wages.

I dispair if the club doesn't aim to get nearer the top of the league by investing in better players

If....January were to end with Sanchez swapped for this whatever his name is, Ozil and Jack signing new deals and nobody else arriving.... that would actually be pretty good wouldn't it? Far, far better than it could have been.

and of course, Theo has gone.

We are not realistically going to achieve much this season so the rebuild would be in the summer. Naturally, this rebuild wont take place but lets say it might, it still makes the January itself not bad.

PSRB
01-18-2018, 01:52 PM
So increased commercial revenue, increased tv/broadcasting money doesn't help... I know lets sell all of our players and we can make a nice huge profit and save buckeyloads on wages.

I dispair if the club doesn't aim to get nearer the top of the league by investing in better players

I shall reserve comment until the transfer window "slams shut". I am definitely warming to the idea of replacing Alexis with the Armenian chap. Getting the Dortmund fella would be somewhat of a coup as well.

Been nice to get Evans, purely because I can actually spell his name

Rich
01-18-2018, 01:55 PM
So increased commercial revenue, increased tv/broadcasting money doesn't help... I know lets sell all of our players and we can make a nice huge profit and save buckeyloads on wages.

I dispair if the club doesn't aim to get nearer the top of the league by investing in better players

Oh, me too. As I fan I don't really care about the accounts (other than ensuring the club doesn't go bust). However, there is absolutely overwhelming evidence that the board have zero appetite to invest at all, let alone to the extent to get us challenging City and United. Even I agree that the latter is not realistic.

I suppose it comes down to the fact that Kronke is a business man. it is not worth spending Ł500million on the asset that is Arsenal FC when he will not get anywhere near that sort of money back on his investment, especially given that he doesn't own anywhere near 100% of the club.

We must remember - he is not a fan, he is an investor.

Peter
01-18-2018, 02:00 PM
Oh, me too. As I fan I don't really care about the accounts (other than ensuring the club doesn't go bust). However, there is absolutely overwhelming evidence that the board have zero appetite to invest at all, let alone to the extent to get us challenging City and United. Even I agree that the latter is not realistic.

I suppose it comes down to the fact that Kronke is a business man. it is not worth spending Ł500million on the asset that is Arsenal FC when he will not get anywhere near that sort of money back on his investment, especially given that he doesn't own anywhere near 100% of the club.

We must remember - he is not a fan, he is an investor.

I dont think there is overwhelming evidence that the board wont invest at all. I think there is overwhelming evidence that they have spent a fair bit. Considerably less than the three big spenders, yes, but in some summers it has been substantial.

The problem is that spending money over the last 3-4 years has not made a blind bit of difference. If anything, we have got worse. I see no real reason to think that throwing more money into mix is going to help.

I think we all know what needs to happen, or at least part of what needs to happen......

Rich
01-18-2018, 02:04 PM
I dont think there is overwhelming evidence that the board wont invest at all. I think there is overwhelming evidence that they have spent a fair bit. Considerably less than the three big spenders, yes, but in some summers it has been substantial.

The problem is that spending money over the last 3-4 years has not made a blind bit of difference. If anything, we have got worse. I see no real reason to think that throwing more money into mix is going to help.

I think we all know what needs to happen, or at least part of what needs to happen......

I was referring to investing their own money into players like City and Chelsea do. United and to a lesser extent Liverpool are exceptions as they make ridiculous sums of commercial revenue.

SWv2
01-18-2018, 02:05 PM
Well the befefits are four-fold, really.

1. We had created a squad with a CL wage structure. Now that we look highly likely to be without CL football for several years, cuts need to be made to keep the club's financial health sound.

2. We get rid of players that have no interest in being at the club.

3. We've got rid of deadwood in Coqulein and Walcott, got rid of players with appauling attitudes (Alexis) and replaced with Mikitahyrian who is quality.

4. It frees up wage budget to get Ozil to stay because we were likely unable to meet his wage demands prior to that.

I appreciate money has been freed up by Walcott and Coquelin however I doubt we will succumb to whatever Ozil’s wage request is at this stage as we are simply too principled and business orientated to do so.

Where you have specifically said “unable”, I suggest the correct word is “unwilling”.

Rich
01-18-2018, 02:12 PM
I appreciate money has been freed up by Walcott and Coquelin however I doubt we will succumb to whatever Ozil’s wage request is at this stage as we are simply too principled and business orientated to do so.

Where you have specifically said “unable”, I suggest the correct word is “unwilling”.

I will concede you that. Perhaps I went for 'unable' as it makes me less irritated with the club as a whole.

If this continues I will have to find a new club to support.

SWv2
01-18-2018, 02:27 PM
I will concede you that. Perhaps I went for 'unable' as it makes me less irritated with the club as a whole.

If this continues I will have to find a new club to support.

He may yet stay depending on what other offers are coming in.

It is alleged a huge element in our favour is London and his love of living there, given that the only realistic alternative is Chelsea it is perhaps difficult to see that happening.

redgunamo
01-18-2018, 02:39 PM
I dont think there is overwhelming evidence that the board wont invest at all. I think there is overwhelming evidence that they have spent a fair bit. Considerably less than the three big spenders, yes, but in some summers it has been substantial.

The problem is that spending money over the last 3-4 years has not made a blind bit of difference. If anything, we have got worse. I see no real reason to think that throwing more money into mix is going to help.

I think we all know what needs to happen, or at least part of what needs to happen......

I'm not sure. Spending money is like a trophy too, isn't it; anyway, having the money to spend.

eastgermanautos
01-18-2018, 03:55 PM
In the near future, he will fulfill his dream of wearing the #10 shirt, whilst Wilsh will ascend to #7; "Manc" Mickie will take over Özil's outside left jersey and the new BALU will attempt to fill Theo's shoes at 14.

Load of old sh1te, imo, and will cost me a fortune.

He is the more valuable of the two. Stick fvcking Sanchez in an enchilada.