I bloody love Giroud. Deserves to start against West Ham

[PSRB]

what to do about Sanchez? He was utterly awful (again) but still produced one moment of magic for Giroud to bag us the equaliser.

[Peter]

what to do about Sanchez? He was utterly awful (again) but still produced one moment of magic for Giroud to bag us the equaliser.

Could ask him to stop dribbling inside and losing the ball every ****ing time he gets it!!!

Of all the 'great' players we have ever had I am going to miss him the least.

[PSRB]

Could ask him to stop dribbling inside and losing the ball every ****ing time he gets it!!!

Of all the 'great' players we have ever had I am going to miss him the least.

:nod: It's almost as if as he's a one trick pony and everyone has figured it out

[Pat Vegas]

:nod: It's almost as if as he's a one trick pony and everyone has figured it out

I suspect he is more doing it on purpose.

on another note I wish Jack would stop running into people.
he's gonna get injured again.

[Luis Anaconda]

what to do about Sanchez? He was utterly awful (again) but still produced one moment of magic for Giroud to bag us the equaliser.

No. Özil produced a sublime moment to put Sanchez into the amount of space when any decent player should provide a decent cross and Oli did the rest

[Monty92]

:nod: It's almost as if as he's a one trick pony and everyone has figured it out

I find your and Peter's comments incredible. For me, Sanchez is one of the top ten players in the world, Geoff.

And as you point out, even when he's shít, he still produces.

[Luis Anaconda]

I find your and Peter's comments incredible. For me, Sanchez is one of the top ten players in the world, Geoff.

And as you point out, even when he's shít, he still produces.
67 times in two matches he has given the ball away. Top ten players, my arse

[Sir C]

I find your and Peter's comments incredible. For me, Sanchez is one of the top ten players in the world, Geoff.

And as you point out, even when he's shít, he still produces.

I haven't seen our last two games, but I read that during those 180 minutes he gave the ball away 54 times.

I shall say no more.

[Luis Anaconda]

I haven't seen our last two games, but I read that during those 180 minutes he gave the ball away 54 times.

I shall say no more.

67 ffs - and the first half at Manchester City he was disgracefully bad at it as well

[Monty92]

67 times in two matches he has given the ball away. Top ten players, my arse

I don't know how those stats compare with other strikers. Is it a total anomaly for a player of his ilk to give the ball away so much? Could it be skewed by the fact that he is often trying to create for us and therefore eschews 'safe' passes?

Also, what were his stats in the two previous games when he was, by all accounts, fantastic?

[Luis Anaconda]

I don't know how those stats compare with other strikers. Is it a total anomaly for a player of his ilk to give the ball away so much? Could it be skewed by the fact that he is often trying to create for us and therefore eschews 'safe' passes?

Also, what were his stats in the two previous games when he was, by all accounts, fantastic?

They are terrible by any measure - if you can't see it by watching him and ignore the stats, you probably should get another hobby, tbh. You are ****ing clueless about football.

[Sir C]

67 ffs - and the first half at Manchester City he was disgracefully bad at it as well

Don't get me wrong, I'll be the first to stand up for a creative player who has to take chances with the ball on occasion. But 39 times a game? That would be unacceptable at schoolboy level.

[Monty92]

They are terrible by any measure - if you can't see it by watching him and ignore the stats, you probably should get another hobby, tbh. You are ****ing clueless about football.

Maybe I don't. I guess this is also why no decent clubs have any interest in signing him :shrug:

[Luis Anaconda]

Don't get me wrong, I'll be the first to stand up for a creative player who has to take chances with the ball on occasion. But 39 times a game? That would be unacceptable at schoolboy level.

Yes. Frustratingly bad. Takes me back to the Chelsea/Burnley games last season. Two games in a week. About 30* times he played a ball across the field from left to right - on all 30 occasions the opposition left back cut it out. Though Monty will tell you he was being "creative".


*made up number

[Pat Vegas]

They are terrible by any measure - if you can't see it by watching him and ignore the stats, you probably should get another hobby, tbh. You are ****ing clueless about football.

:nod: even if he creates 'one moment of magic' it's not worth all the possession he loses.

it's like if I played in a 5-a-side (non awimb won) and my team loses 10-1 but I score the tremendous 1 goal.

[Luis Anaconda]

Maybe I don't. I guess this is also why no decent clubs have any interest in signing him :shrug:

He's a good player - he is not one of the best ten players in the world. You argue like a child

[PSRB]

No. Özil produced a sublime moment to put Sanchez into the amount of space when any decent player should provide a decent cross and Oli did the rest

Bit harsh, it was a very good cross, Oli had big CB's either side of him and it was a perfect ball

[Peter]

They are terrible by any measure - if you can't see it by watching him and ignore the stats, you probably should get another hobby, tbh. You are ****ing clueless about football.

You need the context here. He isnt giving the ball away by trying to play intricate passes into the box. The vast majority are him dribbling into crowded areas when there is no need to do so. He is giving the ball away because he keeps taking the wrong option. He didnt use to do it.

Basically, he is a ****ing **** and, as everyone bar Monty knows, we should have sold him in the summer. Keeping him is looking as bad a decision as many of us feared.

I cant wait for him to leave.

[Monty92]

He's a good player - he is not one of the best ten players in the world. You argue like a child

How dare you?*

*He is so ner.

[Peter]

:nod: even if he creates 'one moment of magic' it's not worth all the possession he loses.

it's like if I played in a 5-a-side (non awimb won) and my team loses 10-1 but I score the tremendous 1 goal.

Moment of magic+89 minutes of complete and utter ****= substitute.

If we want a footballing cretin who might create something from the bench we already have THeo. Although that ****ing beard is going to take some getting used to.

[Peter]

He's a good player - he is not one of the best ten players in the world. You argue like a child

I think he would probably be even worse in a better side. City dodged a bullet there. THey absolutely do not need him.

[Pat Vegas]

Moment of magic+89 minutes of complete and utter ****= substitute.

If we want a footballing cretin who might create something from the bench we already have THeo. Although that ****ing beard is going to take some getting used to.

I'd have kept Lacazette on and taken Sanchez off yesterday.

[Luis Anaconda]

How dare you?*

*He is so ner.

:) He is still very frustrating though. Surely you would admit that

[PSRB]

You need the context here. He isnt giving the ball away by trying to play intricate passes into the box. The vast majority are him dribbling into crowded areas when there is no need to do so. He is giving the ball away because he keeps taking the wrong option. He didnt use to do it.

Basically, he is a ****ing **** and, as everyone bar Monty knows, we should have sold him in the summer. Keeping him is looking as bad a decision as many of us feared.

I cant wait for him to leave.

I saw Ozil take the wrong option on Saturday. I'm still stunned.

It was when we broke and Ramsey, I think, was clean through, unmarked to his left but he passed out to his right

[Peter]

I saw Ozil take the wrong option on Saturday. I'm still stunned.

It was when we broke and Ramsey, I think, was clean through, unmarked to his left but he passed out to his right

He would have had his reasons. Reasons us mere mortals wouldn't understand.

Dennis would have understood the reason. But then Dennis would have created an even better option by realigning the entire situation. Becauase that is what he did. Because he was Dennis. And he could do anything he wanted.....

[Monty92]

:) He is still very frustrating though. Surely you would admit that

I dunno, it's weird, I can see the stats are terrible, but I honestly can't say he ever frustrates me. I have no obvious reason to defend him any more than any other player, but it seems to be a blindspot. I get infinitely more frustrated with, say, Bellerin, who I sometimes think has managed to con the entire football world into thinking he's anything beyond average.

I just think Sanchez is fúcking great. Whilst not a like-for-like comparison at all, he's the closest thing we've had to Henry in terms of being able to do lots of things very, very well, with the added benefit of being absolutely insatiable in his desire.

[Luis Anaconda]

I dunno, it's weird, I can see the stats are terrible, but I honestly can't say he ever frustrates me. I have no obvious reason to defend him any more than any other player, but it seems to be a blindspot. I get infinitely more frustrated with, say, Bellerin, who I sometimes think has managed to con the entire football world into thinking he's anything beyond average.

I just think Sanchez is fúcking great. Whilst not a like-for-like comparison at all, he's the closest thing we've had to Henry in terms of being able to do lots of things very, very well, with the added benefit of being absolutely insatiable in his desire.

Would agree with most of that but I think he lacks a "leetle" bit the intelligence that the top, top players have. And you could argue it's a minor quibble, given what he is capable of, but the balance between instinct and judgement is weighs a little bit heavily towards the former for him to be one of the truly top players. I may be talking *******s of course

[Monty92]

Would agree with most of that but I think he lacks a "leetle" bit the intelligence that the top, top players have. And you could argue it's a minor quibble, given what he is capable of, but the balance between instinct and judgement is weighs a little bit heavily towards the former for him to be one of the truly top players. I may be talking *******s of course

I dunno. I see him in the same vein as Suarez. Their instinctive and aggressive style of play are their greatest assets, but what makes them such special players is that all of their 'secondary' attributes are also excellent too. So, they're both technically assured, have good delivery from wide areas, have a good weight of pass, are good in the air, have a good technical shot, have INCREDIBLY fast twitch muscle fibres that allow them to get to balls first...

[Luis Anaconda]

I dunno. I see him in the same vein as Suarez. Their instinctive and aggressive style of play are their greatest assets, but what makes them such special players is that all of their 'secondary' attributes are also excellent too. So, they're both technically assured, have good delivery from wide areas, have a good weight of pass, are good in the air, have a good technical shot, have INCREDIBLY fast twitch muscle fibres that allow them to get to balls first...

I had trouble with Suarez as well - so you may have a point

[SWv2]

I find your and Peter's comments incredible. For me, Sanchez is one of the top ten players in the world, Geoff.

And as you point out, even when he's shít, he still produces.

Blimey.

...

[Luis Anaconda]

Blimey.

...

A better man than me would have asked him to name the other 9 - do you think he could?

[Herbert Augustus Chapman]

He would have had his reasons. Reasons us mere mortals wouldn't understand.

Dennis would have understood the reason. But then Dennis would have created an even better option by realigning the entire situation. Becauase that is what he did. Because he was Dennis. And he could do anything he wanted.....

Except get on airplane the big girl's blouse.

[Luis Anaconda]

Except get on airplane the big girl's blouse.
You, me, outside now. One simply does not say such things about Dennis

[Herbert Augustus Chapman]

A better man than me would have asked him to name the other 9 - do you think he could?

Monty never actually delivers on any of his initial threats to take you apart in an argument with his football nouse.

He is football's equivalent of the bar room bully perpetually telling you you've just had your last chance.

[Monty92]

Monty never actually delivers on any of his initial threats to take you apart in an argument with his football nouse.

He is football's equivalent of the bar room bully perpetually telling you you've just had your last chance.

You exaggerate. I think I have a relatively decent eye for the game but nothing more and have never actually said otherwise. All I've ever said was that it amazes me that people like you can spend decades following a sport and still fail to grasp the fundamentals (hence your hilarious inability to detect that Ramsey meant his pass to Sanchez vs Man Utd).

[Peter]

Except get on airplane the big girl's blouse.

He didnt want to.

He could do anything he wanted.

Wanted.

[Peter]

You exaggerate. I think I have a relatively decent eye for the game but nothing more and have never actually said otherwise. All I've ever said was that it amazes me that people like you can spend decades following a sport and still fail to grasp the fundamentals (hence your hilarious inability to detect that Ramsey meant his pass to Sanchez vs Man Utd).

I dont think Ramsey really knows what he is doing half the time.

[Luis Anaconda]

I dont think Ramsey really knows what he is doing half the time.
I don't think he had his boots on the right feet in the first half

[SWv2]

I dunno. I see him in the same vein as Suarez. Their instinctive and aggressive style of play are their greatest assets, but what makes them such special players is that all of their 'secondary' attributes are also excellent too. So, they're both technically assured, have good delivery from wide areas, have a good weight of pass, are good in the air, have a good technical shot, have INCREDIBLY fast twitch muscle fibres that allow them to get to balls first...

I read that he conceded possession over 30 times in the United game which I can only assume to be an error in counting, an average of once every 3 minutes.

We all know he is hugely prone to such error but that is a staggering figure.

Surely not.

[Luis Anaconda]

https://twitter.com/Orbinho/status/939862868778012672

[SWv2]

https://twitter.com/Orbinho/status/939862868778012672

Christ alive.

I wonder how much we can get for him next month.

[Luis Anaconda]

Christ alive.

I wonder how much we can get for him next month.
two packets of taytos and the lad from PSG with the sexy mother and long hair

[Rich]

two packets of taytos and the lad from PSG with the sexy mother and long hair

What are the German press saying about our imminent signing of Leon Goretzka? Good to see that the new director of football (or whatever he is) from Barca is working his magic already.

Add Fekir to him and I don't really care what we get for Alexis.

[Pokster]

What are the German press saying about our imminent signing of Leon Goretzka? Good to see that the new director of football (or whatever he is) from Barca is working his magic already.

Add Fekir to him and I don't really care what we get for Alexis.

He doesn't start work until Feb

[Rich]

He doesn't start work until Feb

I see you have fallen for the club's cunning plot to avoid inflated fees during the Jan window.

[Pokster]

I see you have fallen for the club's cunning plot to avoid inflated fees during the Jan window.

Oh yes, because all these silly clubs don't know that the English clubs have money... and January is obviously famous for not inflating transfer fees :rolleyes:

[Luis Anaconda]

He doesn't start work until Feb

Nor do I - well, you say Feb...

[eastgermanautos]

I find your and Peter's comments incredible. For me, Sanchez is one of the top ten players in the world, Geoff.

And as you point out, even when he's shít, he still produces.

I feel he's in the 11-20 level.

[redgunamo]

I think he would probably be even worse in a better side. City dodged a bullet there. THey absolutely do not need him.

Oh, I think they certainly do need him; apart from Kun, their first change is not as good as Alexis. They want to compete with Manchester United, Bayern München, Barcelona and Real Madrid too, after all. PSG as well.

[redgunamo]

I feel he's in the 11-20 level.

Thing is, when our team is struggling, anyone can be a target. Especially expensive forwards that aren't scoring enough goals.

[Peter]

Thing is, when our team is struggling, anyone can be a target. Especially expensive forwards that aren't scoring enough goals.

And constantly giving the ball away, and not signing new contracts.....

[redgunamo]

And constantly giving the ball away, and not signing new contracts.....

No, we wouldn't care. If he was winning games for us and we were defending champions and ten points clear, we'd be on our knees begging him to stay.