So what's more likely at this point; England retaining the Ashes or Arsenal

[World's End Stella]

actually making a decent run at the league?

Or are they both so unlikely that it's not worth considering? :rubchin:

[Burney]

actually making a decent run at the league?

Or are they both so unlikely that it's not worth considering? :rubchin:

Each is as likely as it was before anyone kicked or bowled a ball, so it's pretty academic. :shrug:

[World's End Stella]

Each is as likely as it was before anyone kicked or bowled a ball, so it's pretty academic. :shrug:

Really? You never gave England a chance?

[Burney]

Really? You never gave England a chance?

Nope. I gave them maybe a glimmer of maybe drawing the series with Stokes, but none at all without him. Our bowling was never going to be good enough to get 20 wickets in Aussie conditions with the Kookaburra and our batting is hopelessly fragile. In fact, our batting's saving grace for the last few years has been in batting deep and Stokes was a big part of that. With him gone, we've just got a shït batting team.