Dear Lord, this socialist-lite 'Conservative' governement is delivering

[Sir C]

a full-blown socialist budget.

A new railcard to save money for people aged between 26 and 30? What utter nonsense is this?

[Sir C]

What an odd way to spell government.

[IUFG]

a full-blown socialist budget.

A new railcard to save money for people aged between 26 and 30? What utter nonsense is this?

trying to lure da yoot vote?

seems an odd demographic to choose. And why on Earth is that not age discrimination? Not sure what the legitimate aim of imposing this would be.

I mean, I might be slightly out of the 26-30 sector of the Venn diagram, but it has the potential to piss of a 31 year old.

[Burney]

a full-blown socialist budget.

A new railcard to save money for people aged between 26 and 30? What utter nonsense is this?

Sadly, this is what happens when they know we have to vote for them or face the unmitigated national disaster of a Corbyn government. There’s nothing to keep them honest when they are in place purely by default.

[Sir C]

trying to lure da yoot vote?

seems an odd demographic to choose. And why on Earth is that not age discrimination? Not sure what the legitimate aim of imposing this would be.

I mean, I might be slightly out of the 26-30 sector of the Venn diagram, but it has the potential to piss of a 31 year old.

Yes, why does a bloke of 28 get to travel on a train 30% cheaper than me or his 31 year old neighbour? It's absurd.

[Burney]

trying to lure da yoot vote?

seems an odd demographic to choose. And why on Earth is that not age discrimination? Not sure what the legitimate aim of imposing this would be.

I mean, I might be slightly out of the 26-30 sector of the Venn diagram, but it has the potential to piss of a 31 year old.

Millenials, innit. Whiny little bitches who all think it’s their God-given right to live in London despite clearly not being able to afford to live there and wonder why they don’t have any money.

[Pokster]

trying to lure da yoot vote?

seems an odd demographic to choose. And why on Earth is that not age discrimination? Not sure what the legitimate aim of imposing this would be.

I mean, I might be slightly out of the 26-30 sector of the Venn diagram, but it has the potential to piss of a 31 year old.

If you argue that is age discrimination then so is the pension age

[Burney]

Yes, why does a bloke of 28 get to travel on a train 30% cheaper than me or his 31 year old neighbour? It's absurd.

Cos you can afford a house, innit. This, to yer millennial, is deeply unfair.

[Sir C]

Cos you can afford a house, innit. This, to yer millennial, is deeply unfair.

But he can also afford a house. He may have to give up owning a smartphone, drinking lattes and going on stag dos to Tallinn, but, you know, so did we all. :shrug:

[Sir C]

If you argue that is age discrimination then so is the pension age

:clap: wd p. As an exercise in determination to be contrary without even an attempt at sense or reason, this is quite exceptional.

[Pokster]

Cos you can afford a house, innit. This, to yer millennial, is deeply unfair.

well they don't pay stamp duty now.... ****ers

[Burney]

But he can also afford a house. He may have to give up owning a smartphone, drinking lattes and going on stag dos to Tallinn, but, you know, so did we all. :shrug:

I know that. You know that. But the notion that you have to sacrifice luxuries in order to afford other things is lost on them. This generation sees luxuries as basic human rights. They are, to put it simply, spoilt rotten.

[Pokster]

:clap: wd p. As an exercise in determination to be contrary without even an attempt at sense or reason, this is quite exceptional.

It was a tongue in cheek comment... I would have thought that even an old goat like you would see that

[Sir C]

It was a tongue in cheek comment... I would have thought that even an old goat like you would see that

Oh. Disappointing. :-(

[redgunamo]

Millenials, innit. Whiny little bitches who all think it’s their God-given right to live in London despite clearly not being able to afford to live there and wonder why they don’t have any money.

Must be a very small number of beneficiaries though, since their parents decided their own God-given right to live in London despite clearly not being able to afford to live there was only to be served by having far fewer whiny little bitches around in the first place?

[Sir C]

well they don't pay stamp duty now.... ****ers

And they get a mortgage at, what, 3%? (How much are mortgage rates these days?)

[Pokster]

Oh. Disappointing. :-(

:tongueout:

[Burney]

well they don't pay stamp duty now.... ****ers

I am now very tempted to punch a young person in the face. :furious:

Stamp Duty is purely and simply theft. Its one redeeming feature was that it was universal. The idea that someone shouldn’t have their pocket picked because they’re only ickle really hacks me off.

[PSRB]

well they don't pay stamp duty now.... ****ers

Which now means my house will be stuck at it's £300k valuation for the foreseeable :furious:

[Pokster]

And they get a mortgage at, what, 3%? (How much are mortgage rates these days?)

3% !!! You are living in the past...1.something depending on what period you want

[Peter]

I am now very tempted to punch a young person in the face. :furious:

Stamp Duty is purely and simply theft. Its one redeeming feature was that it was universal. The idea that someone shouldn’t have their pocket picked because they’re only ickle really hacks me off.

Its because these youngsters are willing to vote for Corbyn. THat, and nothing else.

He is shifting the political debate ;)

[redgunamo]

don't drink beer, do you :-\

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And they get a mortgage at, what, 3%? (How much are mortgage rates these days?)

[Peter]

Which now means my house will be stuck at it's £300k valuation for the foreseeable :furious:

Dont sell it. That'll ****ing teach 'em ;)

[Sir C]

3% !!! You are living in the past...1.something depending on what period you want

1.x%? Jesus H Christ! When I bought my first house I was paying 15%! Something like that. A lot, anyway. £800 a month it was. In 1989. That's equivalent to £1,400 today, according to tinternet. You could pay a lot of mortgage with £1,400 a month at 1%.

[Pokster]

1.x%? Jesus H Christ! When I bought my first house I was paying 15%! Something like that. A lot, anyway. £800 a month it was. In 1989. That's equivalent to £1,400 today, according to tinternet. You could pay a lot of mortgage with £1,400 a month at 1%.

My first flat was £17k in 1986..... now worth close to £300k.... bugger

[PSRB]

I am now very tempted to punch a young person in the face. :furious:

Stamp Duty is purely and simply theft. Its one redeeming feature was that it was universal. The idea that someone shouldn’t have their pocket picked because they’re only ickle really hacks me off.

Not as much as Inheritance tax :harumph:

[Burney]

Its because these youngsters are willing to vote for Corbyn. THat, and nothing else.

He is shifting the political debate ;)

The irony that his effect has precipitated a tax cut is pretty funny, though.

[Peter]

The irony that his effect has precipitated a tax cut is pretty funny, though.

its a good tax cut though. I am sure he would approve. I think it is an excellent idea. :p

[Sir C]

don't drink beer, do you :-\

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If I was going to retire to Africa, Zambia would be at the top of my list, I think. Maybe second, after TZ.

In fact, r, my retirement list currently looks like this:

1. Cumbria
2. Cornwall (Too crowded)
3. Southern France (Too many euros required)
4. Thailand (Can't go until the wife's 50)
5. Cambodia (Too gangstery for the missus' taste)
6. Tanzania (Too much chance of instability)
7. Zambia (No sea)

As you can see, this is a most pleasing list. Which is your favourite?

[Peter]

If I was going to retire to Africa, Zambia would be at the top of my list, I think. Maybe second, after TZ.

In fact, r, my retirement list currently looks like this:

1. Cumbria
2. Cornwall (Too crowded)
3. Southern France (Too many euros required)
4. Thailand (Can't go until the wife's 50)
5. Cambodia (Too gangstery for the missus' taste)
6. Tanzania (Too much chance of instability)
7. Zambia (No sea)

As you can see, this is a most pleasing list. Which is your favourite?

Penang. Cheap as chips....

[Pokster]

If I was going to retire to Africa, Zambia would be at the top of my list, I think. Maybe second, after TZ.

In fact, r, my retirement list currently looks like this:

1. Cumbria
2. Cornwall (Too crowded)
3. Southern France (Too many euros required)
4. Thailand (Can't go until the wife's 50)
5. Cambodia (Too gangstery for the missus' taste)
6. Tanzania (Too much chance of instability)
7. Zambia (No sea)

As you can see, this is a most pleasing list. Which is your favourite?

What can't you go to Thailand until v is 50?

[Peter]

Not as much as Inheritance tax :harumph:

That one is a bit of a ****, it has to be said.

Going to cost me and my sister a pretty penny.

[Sir C]

What can't you go to Thailand until v is 50?

They run a retirement visa system but you have to be over 50.

[Sir C]

Penang. Cheap as chips....

Full of allans. I might as well retire to Tower Hamlets. It ain't going to happen.

[Pokster]

They run a retirement visa system but you have to be over 50.

We could always run away together and wait for our GLW's to join us in a few years

[Sir C]

We could always run away together and wait for our GLW's to join us in a few years

In the meantime you'd ruin my bottie though :-(

[redgunamo]

Penang. Cheap as chips....

Ridiculous reason for doing anything, if I may say so. You can't take it with you.

Man up and make more of it.

[Viva Prat Vegas]

The Welsh valleys would give you the peace and tranquility for a year or two before slipping over to the other side C
You can go out in a rocking chair with a Les Paul across your chest and Katherine Jenkins on your gramophone
Just remember to make plans for the cats and Lady C

[redgunamo]

In the meantime you'd ruin my bottie though :-(

That's not compulsory though, is it?

IS IT?! :-(

[Burney]

its a good tax cut though. I am sure he would approve. I think it is an excellent idea. :p

Corbyn wants everyone to belong to the state, p. To him, there are no good tax cuts.

Look, if it means there's someone around in a few years's time who's actually able to afford to buy my house, then fair enough, I suppose. But it rankles, p. It rankles.

[Pokster]

In the meantime you'd ruin my bottie though :-(

I'd treat you gently and give you a cuddle afterwards

[Peter]

Full of allans. I might as well retire to Tower Hamlets. It ain't going to happen.

THey are almost all Chinese. Even the Indians arent muslim, in the main.

[Ash]

But he can also afford a house. He may have to give up owning a smartphone, drinking lattes and going on stag dos to Tallinn, but, you know, so did we all. :shrug:

Right. Giving up our smart phones before they were invented was an amazing sacrifice. wd us.

But seriously, the cost of housing is out of control, and blaming millenials for being whiny doesn't really cover it imo. The stamp duty thing is a good tax cut. :nod:

And making rail travel cheaper for them encourages them to get a place further out of town. And where I work we do discounts to U30s as they have less disposable income.

[Sir C]

THey are almost all Chinese. Even the Indians arent muslim, in the main.

Chinamen are almost as bad p and you darned well know it. Anyway, when I was last in Penang there were allans and masjids all over the shop.

[Burney]

If I was going to retire to Africa, Zambia would be at the top of my list, I think. Maybe second, after TZ.

In fact, r, my retirement list currently looks like this:

1. Cumbria
2. Cornwall (Too crowded)
3. Southern France (Too many euros required)
4. Thailand (Can't go until the wife's 50)
5. Cambodia (Too gangstery for the missus' taste)
6. Tanzania (Too much chance of instability)
7. Zambia (No sea)

As you can see, this is a most pleasing list. Which is your favourite?

Wales is definitely off the table, then?

[Peter]

Ridiculous reason for doing anything, if I may say so. You can't take it with you.

Man up and make more of it.

You can make more of it by getting more 'bang for your buck'. Anyway, Penang is beautiful. It even has a Downing Street :)

[Sir C]

The Welsh valleys would give you the peace and tranquility for a year or two before slipping over to the other side C
You can go out in a rocking chair with a Les Paul across your chest and Katherine Jenkins on your gramophone
Just remember to make plans for the cats and Lady C

I've tried the welsh valleys, s. They were a) a bit dull and b) populated by welshers :-(

[Peter]

Right. Giving up our smart phones before they were invented was an amazing sacrifice. wd us.

But seriously, the cost of housing is out of control, and blaming millenials for being whiny doesn't really cover it imo. The stamp duty thing is a good tax cut. :nod:

And making rail travel cheaper for them encourages them to get a place further out of town. And where I work we do discounts to U30s has they have less disposable income.

Well said that man! THese old codgers resent everything, dont they. At least the old old codgers could claim they fought a war. THe likes of Sir C have been coining it in for decades.

[Sir C]

Wales is definitely off the table, then?

:nod: Couldn't find a suitable food retailer.

No Waitrose, no Booths, no posh butchers/greengrocers, no party. That's my motto.

[Viva Prat Vegas]

v C
VEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[redgunamo]

If I was going to retire to Africa, Zambia would be at the top of my list, I think. Maybe second, after TZ.

In fact, r, my retirement list currently looks like this:

1. Cumbria
2. Cornwall (Too crowded)
3. Southern France (Too many euros required)
4. Thailand (Can't go until the wife's 50)
5. Cambodia (Too gangstery for the missus' taste)
6. Tanzania (Too much chance of instability)
7. Zambia (No sea)

As you can see, this is a most pleasing list. Which is your favourite?

I "retired" to France ages ago. Bought land, built a house on it; took a wife and and she raised our children here. I shan't be moving.

[Pokster]

Wales is definitely off the table, then?

Full of Joe Allan's

[Peter]

Chinamen are almost as bad p and you darned well know it. Anyway, when I was last in Penang there were allans and masjids all over the shop.

Yer malaysian chinaman is a nice enough chap. Pro-british, not particularly pro-China, and they dont mind you having a beer and a fag.

Wonderful food, great weather, and the E&O. Heavenly.

[Sir C]

You can make more of it by getting more 'bang for your buck'. Anyway, Penang is beautiful. It even has a Downing Street :)

The food, with the exception of roti canai, can't compare to Thailand though, can it? Or Cambodia. Or the 'Nam.

[redgunamo]

You can make more of it by getting more 'bang for your buck'. Anyway, Penang is beautiful. It even has a Downing Street :)

Yes. That's like your boss saying, "Instead of me paying you more, why don't you just move to a worse neighbourhood."

Terrific.

[Burney]

:nod: Couldn't find a suitable food retailer.

No Waitrose, no Booths, no posh butchers/greengrocers, no party. That's my motto.

You should have looked at the Marches - around the Abergavenny area. It's quite civilised there.

[Sir C]

Right. Giving up our smart phones before they were invented was an amazing sacrifice. wd us.

But seriously, the cost of housing is out of control, and blaming millenials for being whiny doesn't really cover it imo. The stamp duty thing is a good tax cut. :nod:

And making rail travel cheaper for them encourages them to get a place further out of town. And where I work we do discounts to U30s as they have less disposable income.

See my calculation below. My first how cost me the equivalent of £1,400 a month. I struggled to afford it whilst these poor babies moan and bitch and breakfast on avocado on toast.

[Sir C]

v C
VEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Sorry sodd. I mean v.

[Peter]

The food, with the exception of roti canai, can't compare to Thailand though, can it? Or Cambodia. Or the 'Nam.

I would say the food in Penang is the equal of anywhere I have been. The chinese food is, without question, the best I have ever tasted by a mile.

That said, I always go to Penang with a Penangite so he chooses where we eat and takes us to the best places.

[Sir C]

You should have looked at the Marches - around the Abergavenny area. It's quite civilised there.

No, the list is complete now, I refuse to muck about with it any more. Until she tells me otherwise.

[Peter]

Yes. That's like your boss saying, "Instead of me paying you more, why don't you just move to a worse neighbourhood."

Terrific.

You live in France.......

[Burney]

See my calculation below. My first how cost me the equivalent of £1,400 a month. I struggled to afford it whilst these poor babies moan and bitch and breakfast on avocado on toast.

15% interest rates. Imagine that. I'd basically have to stop eating altogether.

[Viva Prat Vegas]

I miss him and his glandular goodness
:-(

[Burney]

No, the list is complete now, I refuse to muck about with it any more. Until she tells me otherwise.

It's rather beautiful and there's a Waitrose, several butchers and all manner of Art-Is-Anal stuff due to all the Londoners with second homes there.

[Peter]

Corbyn wants everyone to belong to the state, p. To him, there are no good tax cuts.

Look, if it means there's someone around in a few years's time who's actually able to afford to buy my house, then fair enough, I suppose. But it rankles, p. It rankles.

You cant look at a tax system solely in terms of how it affects you. Its the veil of ignorance, innit.

[Sir C]

I "retired" to France ages ago. Bought land, built a house on it; took a wife and and she raised our children here. I shan't be moving.

Socialists and allans, though. If you're out in the boonies or in a gated community, fair enough.

[Burney]

Socialists and allans, though. If you're out in the boonies or in a gated community, fair enough.

Not many Allans in the Alsace, tbf. The almost complete reliance on pork and beer puts them off, I reckon.

[Burney]

You cant look at a tax system solely in terms of how it affects you. Its the veil of ignorance, innit.

I definitely can. Everyone else can fùck right off.

Look, if the tories miraculously solve the 'housing crisis' and everyone now between 18 and 30 stops supporting Corbyn, then I suppose I'll give them credit for this.

[Viva Prat Vegas]

Peter
Everybody looks at the budget from a personal point of view
Not a Utopian one Shirley

[Peter]

Peter
Everybody looks at the budget from a personal point of view
Not a Utopian one Shirley

Yes, but my point was that if you do this then obviously most of it is going to annoy you. You have to take the broader view and believe that these changes are in the greater interests of economic growth, which is going to be in your interest. THis is the fundamental principle of conservative government- sound economic management.

B knows this.....

[Burney]

Yes, but my point was that if you do this then obviously most of it is going to annoy you. You have to take the broader view and believe that these changes are in the greater interests of economic growth, which is going to be in your interest. THis is the fundamental principle of conservative government- sound economic management.

B knows this.....

There is every chance, of course, that this will simply mean that house prices increase accordingly.

[Luis Anaconda]

There is every chance, of course, that this will simply mean that house prices increase accordingly.

LA likes this scenario