So *that’s* what it’s like to beat your vastly superior rivals despite absolutely

[Monty92]

zero chance of finishing above them at the end of the season.

Well, all things considered, it still felt half-decent, didn’t it?

[Pokster]

zero chance of finishing above them at the end of the season.

Well, all things considered, it still felt half-decent, didn’t it?

What is with the "zero" chance comment, who has ever said this? Or are you just making **** up again

[Sir C]

What is with the "zero" chance comment, who has ever said this? Or are you just making **** up again

I think he's suggesting that there is a media-driven narrative, or concensus, if you will, that Spurs are everything that is wonderful and we are proper shíte; I would be inclined to agree with him in this matter.

I noted with amusement last week that several football journalists had stated that not a single Arsenal player would get into the Spurs first Xl; others grudgingly allowed us 1 or 2 players of sufficient quality to grace the white shirt. This is all obviously hyperbolic bóllocks, as it were, as demonstrated by Saturday's result.

That's monty's point, I think. I can't see that he's made anything up.

[SWv2]

I think he's suggesting that there is a media-driven narrative, or concensus, if you will, that Spurs are everything that is wonderful and we are proper shíte; I would be inclined to agree with him in this matter.

I noted with amusement last week that several football journalists had stated that not a single Arsenal player would get into the Spurs first Xl; others grudgingly allowed us 1 or 2 players of sufficient quality to grace the white shirt. This is all obviously hyperbolic bóllocks, as it were, as demonstrated by Saturday's result.

That's monty's point, I think. I can't see that he's made anything up.


I did comment to a few chaps in the pub on Saturday morning that there is an awful lot of excessive nonsense written about us in the media. Yes we have the ability to be utter shíte and no we will not win the league this or perhaps any year soon but we were going into Saturday with 10 games unbeaten, or maybe 10 wins in a row, at the Emirates and that Spurs were not miles ahead on points.

Of course some of this was pre-game bravado but the gap was never as big as reported, and the reaction to their beating Madrid was as excessive as the nonsense written at times about us.

[Pat Vegas]

zero chance of finishing above them at the end of the season.

Well, all things considered, it still felt half-decent, didn’t it?

Actually for the first time I see the experts saying things about spurs that they usually say about us.
such our record against top 4 teams.

[Pokster]

I think he's suggesting that there is a media-driven narrative, or concensus, if you will, that Spurs are everything that is wonderful and we are proper shíte; I would be inclined to agree with him in this matter.

I noted with amusement last week that several football journalists had stated that not a single Arsenal player would get into the Spurs first Xl; others grudgingly allowed us 1 or 2 players of sufficient quality to grace the white shirt. This is all obviously hyperbolic bóllocks, as it were, as demonstrated by Saturday's result.

That's monty's point, I think. I can't see that he's made anything up.

The Journalists that do that do it for clicks.. works a treat, they come out with some *******s to get people up in arms and tweeting their disgust.

I didn't see anyone say we had zero chance of winning on Saturday, nobody who has any sense would say that as it is plainly *******s

[Sir C]

The Journalists that do that do it for clicks.. works a treat, they come out with some *******s to get people up in arms and tweeting their disgust.

I didn't see anyone say we had zero chance of winning on Saturday, nobody who has any sense would say that as it is plainly *******s

He has employed a degree of hyperbole there to illustrate the hyperbole. It is a simple literary device.

The man is a professional writer, in the name of God. He knows this shít.

[Ash]

He has employed a degree of hyperbole there to illustrate the hyperbole. It is a simple literary device.


He also has a degree in hyperbole.

Did you see the literary device I employed there?

[Herbert Augustus Chapman]

I think he's suggesting that there is a media-driven narrative, or concensus, if you will, that Spurs are everything that is wonderful and we are proper shíte; I would be inclined to agree with him in this matter.

I noted with amusement last week that several football journalists had stated that not a single Arsenal player would get into the Spurs first Xl; others grudgingly allowed us 1 or 2 players of sufficient quality to grace the white shirt. This is all obviously hyperbolic bóllocks, as it were, as demonstrated by Saturday's result.

That's monty's point, I think. I can't see that he's made anything up.

how many of this arsenal 11 would get into the Tottenham team." Then, 10 minutes into to match when we had calmly and efficiently passed the ball out of defence, he claimed we had 'scrambled' the ball out.

The MOTD edit of the match was also clearly contrived to make it look as though Tottenham had all the possession and chances - someone at MOTD clearly does not like us. What gave it the lie was Shearer saying how brilliant we had been. They can't manipulate and edit the post match analysis...yet.

AND! - since when does a referee allow an exrta minute to the standard two minutes of injury time at half time? When it's Mike '****yBollox' Dean and Tottenham are in possession, that's when."

[Herbert Augustus Chapman]

He has employed a degree of hyperbole there to illustrate the hyperbole. It is a simple literary device.

The man is a professional writer, in the name of God. He knows this shít.

Are you saying Monty is a professional writer? I thought when his last picture book sold 72 copies he'd gone back to sucking cocks on Hampstead Heath.

[Luis Anaconda]

I did comment to a few chaps in the pub on Saturday morning that there is an awful lot of excessive nonsense written about us in the media. Yes we have the ability to be utter shíte and no we will not win the league this or perhaps any year soon but we were going into Saturday with 10 games unbeaten, or maybe 10 wins in a row, at the Emirates and that Spurs were not miles ahead on points.

Of course some of this was pre-game bravado but the gap was never as big as reported, and the reaction to their beating Madrid was as excessive as the nonsense written at times about us.

There was a terrible one in the Times preaching how Pochettino made every player he touched better and every player now under Wenger is going backwards. To illustrate his point, the writer used the statistic of Özil assists for Real Madrid v the number he has made for Arsenal. Of course, it is considerably fewer for the latter. He made the concession that the English league may be harder - didn't mention other small factors like Cristiano Ronaldo. ****ing idiot - the writer not you

ftr it is 11 straight league wins at the Emirates (15 wins two draws in all comps since out last loss)

[Sir C]

how many of this arsenal 11 would get into the Tottenham team." Then, 10 minutes into to match when we had calmly and efficiently passed the ball out of defence, he claimed we had 'scrambled' the ball out.

The MOTD edit of the match was also clearly contrived to make it look as though Tottenham had all the possession and chances - someone at MOTD clearly does not like us. What gave it the lie was Shearer saying how brilliant we had been. They can't manipulate and edit the post match analysis...yet.

AND! - since when does a referee allow an exrta minute to the standard two minutes of injury time at half time? When it's Mike '****yBollox' Dean and Tottenham are in possession, that's when."

Yes, I noticed the 'scrambled' comment with disbelief.

Fúck 'em, they've always hated us, from the 70s when we were 'lucky Arsenal' to the 80s and 90s when we were 'boring' (we were), then too foreign. Now it's just instinctive, kick the ársenal at every opportunity.

Fúck 'em again.

[Burney]

Actually for the first time I see the experts saying things about spurs that they usually say about us.
such our record against top 4 teams.

Yes, it was rather funny watching Spurs transform from the mighty slayers of Real Madrid who fart lightning, shït thunder and generally represent all that's great about English football into a bunch of underachievers who never beat any of their top six rivals in the space of a couple of hours.

[Peter]

zero chance of finishing above them at the end of the season.

Well, all things considered, it still felt half-decent, didn’t it?

I didnt watch it but I have seen the highlights. It seems that if you field your best eleven and ask them to put some serious effort in you can achieve some pleasing results.

I wonder if we will continue this experiment, or was it just a special event for the North London derby?

If I may allow myself one tiny moan. Well, actually, two or three. Five, in total.

THe constant whining about the free kick got on my nerves a little. Firstly, its a free kick- not a penalty, not a guy clean through on goal, not a free hit. A free kick 30 yards out. Defend it and shut up. It is not, of itself, a game changing moment.

Secondly, Dean clearly indicates that he gave it for some kind of shirt-pulling/ holding att he shoulder, by tapping his shoulder repeatedly and tugging at it. So why did the pundits keep re running the second part, the actual tackle, and saying 'I cant see a foul there'.

THirdly, Mustafi is not 'clearly offside'. If he is offside at all it is by an inch at shoulder. So marginal as to fall under serious doubt.

Fourthly, Lacazette is not offside for the second goal. THere is no debate, nor controversy. He is onside.

Finally, why was Pocchetino moaning about Xhaka getting a second yellow? I saw no such incident.

[Burney]

how many of this arsenal 11 would get into the Tottenham team." Then, 10 minutes into to match when we had calmly and efficiently passed the ball out of defence, he claimed we had 'scrambled' the ball out.

The MOTD edit of the match was also clearly contrived to make it look as though Tottenham had all the possession and chances - someone at MOTD clearly does not like us. What gave it the lie was Shearer saying how brilliant we had been. They can't manipulate and edit the post match analysis...yet.

AND! - since when does a referee allow an exrta minute to the standard two minutes of injury time at half time? When it's Mike '****yBollox' Dean and Tottenham are in possession, that's when."

It was Jonathan Pearce, wasn't it? And I may be wrong, but I got the distinct impression that that commentary was recorded post-match.

[Herbert Augustus Chapman]

Yes, I noticed the 'scrambled' comment with disbelief.

Fúck 'em, they've always hated us, from the 70s when we were 'lucky Arsenal' to the 80s and 90s when we were 'boring' (we were), then too foreign. Now it's just instinctive, kick the ársenal at every opportunity.

Fúck 'em again.

Fúck 'em all
Fúck 'em all
United, West 'am, Liverpool
We are the Arsenal and we are the best
We are the Arsenal so fack all the rest!

[World's End Stella]

I didnt watch it but I have seen the highlights. It seems that if you field your best eleven and ask them to put some serious effort in you can achieve some pleasing results.

I wonder if we will continue this experiment, or was it just a special event for the North London derby?

If I may allow myself one tiny moan. Well, actually, two or three. Five, in total.

THe constant whining about the free kick got on my nerves a little. Firstly, its a free kick- not a penalty, not a guy clean through on goal, not a free hit. A free kick 30 yards out. Defend it and shut up. It is not, of itself, a game changing moment.

Secondly, Dean clearly indicates that he gave it for some kind of shirt-pulling/ holding att he shoulder, by tapping his shoulder repeatedly and tugging at it. So why did the pundits keep re running the second part, the actual tackle, and saying 'I cant see a foul there'.

THirdly, Mustafi is not 'clearly offside'. If he is offside at all it is by an inch at shoulder. So marginal as to fall under serious doubt.

Fourthly, Lacazette is not offside for the second goal. THere is no debate, nor controversy. He is onside.

Finally, why was Pocchetino moaning about Xhaka getting a second yellow? I saw no such incident.

And you haven't mentioned that weasel Dean giving a foul against Ozil when the defender fell over that prevented a 2 v 1 inside their box.

I used a bad word about him in front of my son. :-(

[Burney]

I didnt watch it but I have seen the highlights. It seems that if you field your best eleven and ask them to put some serious effort in you can achieve some pleasing results.

I wonder if we will continue this experiment, or was it just a special event for the North London derby?

If I may allow myself one tiny moan. Well, actually, two or three. Five, in total.

THe constant whining about the free kick got on my nerves a little. Firstly, its a free kick- not a penalty, not a guy clean through on goal, not a free hit. A free kick 30 yards out. Defend it and shut up. It is not, of itself, a game changing moment.

Secondly, Dean clearly indicates that he gave it for some kind of shirt-pulling/ holding att he shoulder, by tapping his shoulder repeatedly and tugging at it. So why did the pundits keep re running the second part, the actual tackle, and saying 'I cant see a foul there'.

THirdly, Mustafi is not 'clearly offside'. If he is offside at all it is by an inch at shoulder. So marginal as to fall under serious doubt.

Fourthly, Lacazette is not offside for the second goal. THere is no debate, nor controversy. He is onside.

Finally, why was Pocchetino moaning about Xhaka getting a second yellow? I saw no such incident.

It was also pretty scandalous that their manager was allowed to get away with the assertion that they had a bunch of good chances and deserved something from the game. In fact, they were more than a little flattered by 2-0.

[Peter]

It was also pretty scandalous that their manager was allowed to get away with the assertion that they had a bunch of good chances and deserved something from the game. In fact, they were more than a little flattered by 2-0.

Wenger said that about the game at City. :D

I understand there were 'howls of protest' when Lacazette was taken off. I like the sound of that. A whole section of the crowd howling...

[Herbert Augustus Chapman]

Wouldn't that kind of fabrication get the Beeb in hot water? Sort of thing they've been in trouble for too often over the last decade.

I doubt he would have made his comment about starting 11's with the knowledge that we would out-play, out-fight and out-score the Middlesex vermin.

[Peter]

And you haven't mentioned that weasel Dean giving a foul against Ozil when the defender fell over that prevented a 2 v 1 inside their box.

I used a bad word about him in front of my son. :-(

Eric Dier gave an interview after the game where he spoke at length about how impossible it is to get something from a game like this when the ref keeps making mistakes against you. At the end he said 'but we are not looking to make any excuses' :hehe::hehe:

[Sir C]

Wenger said that about the game at City. :D

I understand there were 'howls of protest' when Lacazette was taken off. I like the sound of that. A whole section of the crowd howling...

There was, allegedly, booing.

Leading Spurs 2-0 at home and the crowd boos a tactical substitution. #againstmodernfootball

[Peter]

There was, allegedly, booing.

Leading Spurs 2-0 at home and the crowd boos a tactical substitution. #againstmodernfootball

I watched the last 15 minutes. Some admirable defending and a wonderful save from Cech. Quite enjoyable. A poor header from Bellerin nearly cost us and there were two counter attacks where Ozil was clearly exhausted. I also saw Coquelin play himself into trouble and then buy a foul with some clever body movement- very nice.

[Burney]

Wenger said that about the game at City. :D

I understand there were 'howls of protest' when Lacazette was taken off. I like the sound of that. A whole section of the crowd howling...

Sure, but did it go unchallenged in the media?

[Luis Anaconda]

Yes, I noticed the 'scrambled' comment with disbelief.

Fúck 'em, they've always hated us, from the 70s when we were 'lucky Arsenal' to the 80s and 90s when we were 'boring' (we were), then too foreign. Now it's just instinctive, kick the ársenal at every opportunity.

Fúck 'em again.

Garth Crooks is on wonderfully sanctimonious form this morning but even for that thick **** this is special - commenting on Mesut Özil:

"You have to go back to the days of former Arsenal greats like Alan Ball, Charlie George and Liam Brady to see a glimpse of real genius wearing the famous cannon on their chest. But not any more."

Erm - Garth - you may have missed a few years

[Sir C]

Garth Crooks is on wonderfully sanctimonious form this morning but even for that thick **** this is special - commenting on Mesut Özil:

"You have to go back to the days of former Arsenal greats like Alan Ball, Charlie George and Liam Brady to see a glimpse of real genius wearing the famous cannon on their chest. But not any more."

Erm - Garth - you may have missed a few years

Garth Crooks is actually mental, isn't he?

[Burney]

Eric Dier gave an interview after the game where he spoke at length about how impossible it is to get something from a game like this when the ref keeps making mistakes against you. At the end he said 'but we are not looking to make any excuses' :hehe::hehe:

I saw that. Given the absolute state of his head and his profound stupidity and inarticulacy, are we sure Eric Dier isn't actually subnormal?

[Luis Anaconda]

Sure, but did it go unchallenged in the media?

Pochettino got quite a kicking for his behavious in the press conference in one Sunday Times article I read - but that was by Jonathan Northcroft who is usually very good anyway

[Ash]

Wouldn't that kind of fabrication get the Beeb in hot water? Sort of thing they've been in trouble for too often over the last decade.

I doubt he would have made his comment about starting 11's with the knowledge that we would out-play, out-fight and out-score the Middlesex vermin.

Perhaps they record the opening salvo in real time, if they know it'll be a top-billed game, and add the rest on afterwards. Most MOTD commentary seems fake to me. He was shouting about the 'controversial' free kick a bit too much in real time to sound credible. It did look a decent shout for a foul in real time.

[Burney]

Garth Crooks is on wonderfully sanctimonious form this morning but even for that thick **** this is special - commenting on Mesut Özil:

"You have to go back to the days of former Arsenal greats like Alan Ball, Charlie George and Liam Brady to see a glimpse of real genius wearing the famous cannon on their chest. But not any more."

Erm - Garth - you may have missed a few years

Clearly, the years 1997-2005 were just too traumatic for Garth. He's suppressed them - like people do with child abuse and that.

[Peter]

Garth Crooks is on wonderfully sanctimonious form this morning but even for that thick **** this is special - commenting on Mesut Özil:

"You have to go back to the days of former Arsenal greats like Alan Ball, Charlie George and Liam Brady to see a glimpse of real genius wearing the famous cannon on their chest. But not any more."

Erm - Garth - you may have missed a few years

Alan Ball :hehe:

[Luis Anaconda]

Garth Crooks is actually mental, isn't he?

undoubtedly - and he looks like a toad

[PSRB]

I didnt watch it but I have seen the highlights. It seems that if you field your best eleven and ask them to put some serious effort in you can achieve some pleasing results.

I wonder if we will continue this experiment, or was it just a special event for the North London derby?

If I may allow myself one tiny moan. Well, actually, two or three. Five, in total.

THe constant whining about the free kick got on my nerves a little. Firstly, its a free kick- not a penalty, not a guy clean through on goal, not a free hit. A free kick 30 yards out. Defend it and shut up. It is not, of itself, a game changing moment.

Secondly, Dean clearly indicates that he gave it for some kind of shirt-pulling/ holding att he shoulder, by tapping his shoulder repeatedly and tugging at it. So why did the pundits keep re running the second part, the actual tackle, and saying 'I cant see a foul there'.

THirdly, Mustafi is not 'clearly offside'. If he is offside at all it is by an inch at shoulder. So marginal as to fall under serious doubt.

Fourthly, Lacazette is not offside for the second goal. THere is no debate, nor controversy. He is onside.

Finally, why was Pocchetino moaning about Xhaka getting a second yellow? I saw no such incident.

I think he felt Xhaka should have had one a few minutes before, in which case he probably wouldn't have made the one he did get a card for. There was also a little tug on shirt midway through 2nd half which was given as a foul but no spurs player appealed for anything more.

[Burney]

Perhaps they record the opening salvo in real time, if they know it'll be a top-billed game, and add the rest on afterwards. Most MOTD commentary seems fake to me. He was shouting about the 'controversial' free kick a bit too much in real time to sound credible. It did look a decent shout for a foul in real time.


There's no doubt in my mind that MOTD often post-records its commentary for some games. Apart from anything, the sound quality is usually completely different. However, they normally only do it for shïtty games between teams nobody gives a shít about.

[PSRB]

I watched the last 15 minutes. Some admirable defending and a wonderful save from Cech. Quite enjoyable. A poor header from Bellerin nearly cost us and there were two counter attacks where Ozil was clearly exhausted. I also saw Coquelin play himself into trouble and then buy a foul with some clever body movement- very nice.

Ramsey falling over twice nearly cost us! Get some proper studs, lad!

[Peter]

I think he felt Xhaka should have had one a few minutes before, in which case he probably wouldn't have made the one he did get a card for. There was also a little tug on shirt midway through 2nd half which was given as a foul but no spurs player appealed for anything more.

So....pretty much nothing then.

I also noticed not one Spurs player claimed offside for the first goal. So it was so obvious that not a single player spotted it? Or the linesman?

Clutching at straws. When I saw the highlights I was kind of hoping it was miles offside :****er:

[Burney]

Alan Ball :hehe:


He was the original 'covers every blade of grass' player, wasn't he?

he had a great engine - until he dropped dead of a heart attack aged 62, of course.

[Peter]

Ramsey falling over twice nearly cost us! Get some proper studs, lad!

I noticed one of those. I think it resulted in a brilliant sliding block from Mustafi. Worth it :D

[Viva Prat Vegas]

That dreadful foul by Harry Kane the one where Mike Dean did not have a clue what had happened was cut out of the highlights
Editing cunds

[ITSUPFORGRABSNOW]

Garth Crooks is on wonderfully sanctimonious form this morning but even for that thick **** this is special - commenting on Mesut Özil:

"You have to go back to the days of former Arsenal greats like Alan Ball, Charlie George and Liam Brady to see a glimpse of real genius wearing the famous cannon on their chest. But not any more."

Erm - Garth - you may have missed a few years

That bloke Dennis something or other was pretty good if I recall