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Sir C
11-14-2017, 12:52 PM
I’ve moved on - no booze now on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday, and no more than half a bottle on Friday and Sunday.

I imagined that after several weeks of this regime I would be feeling healthier, sharper and happier, and that I would have lost weight. The result of all this self denial is... nothing. Nothing at all, except a general sense of misery with occasional bouts of sheer desperation.

Life is awful. Does anyone have a number for the Samaritans?

My advice to anyone considering reducing their alcohol intake is don’t do it. Stay on the grog. Go harder if you can.

SWv2
11-14-2017, 12:54 PM
I’ve moved on - no booze now on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday, and no more than half a bottle on Friday and Sunday.

I imagined that after several weeks of this regime I would be feeling healthier, sharper and happier, and that I would have lost weight. The result of all this self denial is... nothing. Nothing at all, except a general sense of misery with occasional bouts of sheer desperation.

Life is awful. Does anyone have a number for the Samaritans?

My advice to anyone considering reducing their alcohol intake is don’t do it. Stay on the grog. Go harder if you can.

I told you that you would feel worse as all you have done is deny your body something which it has become accustomed to for 30 years give or take.

:shrug:

Sir C
11-14-2017, 12:56 PM
I told you that you would feel worse as all you have done is deny your body something which it has become accustomed to for 30 years give or take.

:shrug:

But they told me this something was poisoning my body. I have stopped poisoning my body, surely that should be good?

Luis Anaconda
11-14-2017, 01:00 PM
I’ve moved on - no booze now on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday, and no more than half a bottle on Friday and Sunday.

I imagined that after several weeks of this regime I would be feeling healthier, sharper and happier, and that I would have lost weight. The result of all this self denial is... nothing. Nothing at all, except a general sense of misery with occasional bouts of sheer desperation.

Life is awful. Does anyone have a number for the Samaritans?

My advice to anyone considering reducing their alcohol intake is don’t do it. Stay on the grog. Go harder if you can.

:thumbup: I'll give it a go. Have to wait until December 1 until I can open one of these for breakfast though

787

SWv2
11-14-2017, 01:00 PM
But they told me this something was poisoning my body. I have stopped poisoning my body, surely that should be good?

It is in essence a drug, albeit a very legal and money spinning drug for HMRC or whatever they are called.

You drank a lot, your body became accustomed to it, reliant almost. Although it was also a barrier it aided your sleep and relaxation, now it is absent and your body craves it.

Your abstinence is no doubt better than your excessive drinking, but to try and reverse 30 years of wilful abuse by 2-3 weeks of drinking less is but a small step.

I would expect in a few months your sleep will improve, though if you keep on the fags you will be lucky to see us win the League next May.

In summary, and I pull no punches, it is not looking good. Make sure your will is up to date.

barrybueno
11-14-2017, 01:09 PM
:thumbup: I'll give it a go. Have to wait until December 1 until I can open one of these for breakfast though

787

It's fallen over LA, an indication of how strong it is?

Burney
11-14-2017, 01:12 PM
I’ve moved on - no booze now on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday, and no more than half a bottle on Friday and Sunday.

I imagined that after several weeks of this regime I would be feeling healthier, sharper and happier, and that I would have lost weight. The result of all this self denial is... nothing. Nothing at all, except a general sense of misery with occasional bouts of sheer desperation.

Life is awful. Does anyone have a number for the Samaritans?

My advice to anyone considering reducing their alcohol intake is don’t do it. Stay on the grog. Go harder if you can.

I don’t wish to be unkind, but what on earth did you expect?

You didn’t actually believe all those frauds who tell you their lives are better since stopping drinking, did you? Did you never see the haunted look in their eyes?

I’m pretty certain life is simply too awful to be faced without a glass in one’s hand.

Luis Anaconda
11-14-2017, 01:13 PM
It's fallen over LA, an indication of how strong it is?

I was lying down when I took the pic, b - there's 25 different beers in there. Probably one or two strong ones

Burney
11-14-2017, 01:20 PM
I was lying down when I took the pic, b - there's 25 different beers in there. Probably one or two strong ones

I’m currently ‘brewing’ something in a bucket in my utility room, la. It contains rhubarb and apples from my allotment with some sugar and yeast. I’ve literally no idea what it’ll be like. Foul, probably. It’s quite pink, though.

I may send a semi-John to Sir C for Christmas.

Luis Anaconda
11-14-2017, 01:24 PM
I’m currently ‘brewing’ something in a bucket in my utility room, la. It contains rhubarb and apples from my allotment with some sugar and yeast. I’ve literally no idea what it’ll be like. Foul, probably. It’s quite pink, though.

I may send a semi-John to Sir C for Christmas.

Dear Lord - it sounds ... interesting. It might send him over the edge

barrybueno
11-14-2017, 01:25 PM
I was lying down when I took the pic, b - there's 25 different beers in there. Probably one or two strong ones

:hehe: Sounds good, I'll be stuck with non-alcoholic chocolate :-(

Sir C
11-14-2017, 01:27 PM
It is in essence a drug, albeit a very legal and money spinning drug for HMRC or whatever they are called.

You drank a lot, your body became accustomed to it, reliant almost. Although it was also a barrier it aided your sleep and relaxation, now it is absent and your body craves it.

Your abstinence is no doubt better than your excessive drinking, but to try and reverse 30 years of wilful abuse by 2-3 weeks of drinking less is but a small step.

I would expect in a few months your sleep will improve, though if you keep on the fags you will be lucky to see us win the League next May.

In summary, and I pull no punches, it is not looking good. Make sure your will is up to date.

I haven't touched a cigarette in 7 weeks, actually. I've got years in me.

Sir C
11-14-2017, 01:29 PM
I’m currently ‘brewing’ something in a bucket in my utility room, la. It contains rhubarb and apples from my allotment with some sugar and yeast. I’ve literally no idea what it’ll be like. Foul, probably. It’s quite pink, though.

I may send a semi-John to Sir C for Christmas.

I wish you much pleasure from your rhubarb-based hooch, b. I, however, could not contemplate touching such stuffs.

Burney
11-14-2017, 01:32 PM
I wish you much pleasure from your rhubarb-based hooch, b. I, however, could not contemplate touching such stuffs.

I think it could be a triumph. I could mix it with hard liquor and make cocktails.

Either way, i’m going to have to drink the bloody stuff one way or another now i’ve annoyed the wife by leaving a bucket of frothing madness on top of the tumble dryer for a week. :-(

Sir C
11-14-2017, 01:34 PM
I think it could be a triumph. I could mix it with hard liquor and make cocktails.

Either way, i’m going to have to drink the bloody stuff one way or another now i’ve annoyed the wife by leaving a bucket of frothing madness on top of the tumble dryer for a week. :-(

You'll go blind :-(

Burney
11-14-2017, 01:37 PM
You'll go blind :-(

:shrug: My retinas are detaching anyway. Might as well finish to job imo.

SWv2
11-14-2017, 01:55 PM
You'll go blind :-(

This home drew drink will make him masturbate furiously?

Good lord.

Sir C
11-14-2017, 02:03 PM
This home drew drink will make him masturbate furiously?

Good lord.

He masturbates furiously already. Did you know that he has a whole shed dedicated to his onanistic activities?

Herbert Augustus Chapman
11-14-2017, 02:06 PM
Well if you could stop whining and bellyaching like a child denied its sweets, things might improve.

Instead of thinking only of yourself try and use your new found sobriety to help your fellow man - perhaps those less fortunate than you. Go and do some work in one of those soup kitchens frequented by real alcoholics and folk who have, frequently through no fault of their own, fallen off the edge. Then, you may start to feel better as you acquire a sense of worth.

Sir C
11-14-2017, 02:08 PM
Well if you could stop whining and bellyaching like a child denied its sweets, things might improve.

Instead of thinking only of yourself try and use your new found sobriety to help your fellow man - perhaps those less fortunate than you. Go and do some work in one of those soup kitchens frequented by real alcoholics and folk who have, frequently through no fault of their own, fallen off the edge. Then, you may start to feel better as you acquire a sense of worth.

'Real alcoholics' :hehe: Is that like 'drug addicts'?

Weak-minded, feckless, attention-seeking wasters, h. Addiction is an excuse for giving up. Or not giving up, as the case may be.

Burney
11-14-2017, 02:10 PM
'Real alcoholics' :hehe: Is that like 'drug addicts'?

Weak-minded, feckless, attention-seeking wasters, h. Addiction is an excuse for giving up. Or not giving up, as the case may be.

Mind you, there is a certain dignity to the term 'high-functioning alcoholic', I feel.

TheCurly
11-14-2017, 02:10 PM
I’ve moved on - no booze now on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday, and no more than half a bottle on Friday and Sunday.

I imagined that after several weeks of this regime I would be feeling healthier, sharper and happier, and that I would have lost weight. The result of all this self denial is... nothing. Nothing at all, except a general sense of misery with occasional bouts of sheer desperation.

Life is awful. Does anyone have a number for the Samaritans?

My advice to anyone considering reducing their alcohol intake is don’t do it. Stay on the grog. Go harder if you can.

I would be doing you a terrible disservice if I was anything other than blunt old friend.
So,here goes........you silly *******.You're born then you die.Anything other than a hedonistic lifestyle is for MUGGS

Herbert Augustus Chapman
11-14-2017, 02:11 PM
'Real alcoholics' :hehe: Is that like 'drug addicts'?

Weak-minded, feckless, attention-seeking wasters, h. Addiction is an excuse for giving up. Or not giving up, as the case may be.

Yes yes yes, mock away and,as usual hide, behind your crafty words and sophistry. You may walk through this world as a blind man c but he will see you. You know of whom I speak!

World's End Stella
11-14-2017, 02:11 PM
But one of the joys of reducing your drinking significantly is having the odd cheeky cheat night and enjoying it tremendously.

I think you need to be less strict with yourself, Charles and sneak in a few G&Ts or glasses of fine red every now and then.

I really do enjoy alcohol more now that I drink less, if you see what I mean.

Burney
11-14-2017, 02:14 PM
Well if you could stop whining and bellyaching like a child denied its sweets, things might improve.

Instead of thinking only of yourself try and use your new found sobriety to help your fellow man - perhaps those less fortunate than you. Go and do some work in one of those soup kitchens frequented by real alcoholics and folk who have, frequently through no fault of their own, fallen off the edge. Then, you may start to feel better as you acquire a sense of worth.

Those people smell, dribble, shout, fight, vomit and pïss themselves, h. Anyone seeking 'self-worth' in their company is simply indulging their own narcissistic messianic complex. There is no such thing as altruism.

Herbert Augustus Chapman
11-14-2017, 02:18 PM
Those people smell, dribble, shout, fight, vomit and pïss themselves, h. Anyone seeking 'self-worth' in their company is simply indulging their own narcissistic messianic complex. There is no such thing as altruism.

Come now b, I know you don't believe that. If there were no altruism we'd all still be dry humping each other in caves.

Burney
11-14-2017, 02:18 PM
But one of the joys of reducing your drinking significantly is having the odd cheeky cheat night and enjoying it tremendously.

I think you need to be less strict with yourself, Charles and sneak in a few G&Ts or glasses of fine red every now and then.

I really do enjoy alcohol more now that I drink less, if you see what I mean.

My contention would be that anyone who can 'sneak in a few G&Ts or glasses of fine red' and be happy with that level of consumption doesn't really get it.

Sir C
11-14-2017, 02:19 PM
But one of the joys of reducing your drinking significantly is having the odd cheeky cheat night and enjoying it tremendously.

I think you need to be less strict with yourself, Charles and sneak in a few G&Ts or glasses of fine red every now and then.

I really do enjoy alcohol more now that I drink less, if you see what I mean.

I rather enjoy the element of self-discipline, to be honest.

Burney
11-14-2017, 02:20 PM
Come now b, I know you don't believe that. If there were no altruism we'd all still be dry humping each other in caves.

No. Our laws exist precisely because there's no such thing as altruism. We must be threatened with a worse alternative in order to subdue our baser nature.

Burney
11-14-2017, 02:22 PM
I rather enjoy the element of self-discipline, to be honest.

You enjoy the extremes of self-indulgence or self-denial. It's one or t'other. Two sides of the same coin, sort of thing. Moderation is for fags.

World's End Stella
11-14-2017, 02:24 PM
My contention would be that anyone who can 'sneak in a few G&Ts or glasses of fine red' and be happy with that level of consumption doesn't really get it.

I would disagree with your contention. Alcohol should be enjoyed on multiple levels; not only the steam in and get trolleyed situation, but the gentle enjoyment of a few pints or glasses over several hours. As an example, I take my son to the pub at 12pm every Sunday (training, I refer to it as), he has two pints of coke, I have 2-3 pints of ale and we share a large plate of chips. Upon returning to Chez WES, I have no desire for more alcohol. I kip on the couch, a book in front of the fire in the kitchen, either of these nicely finish off the experience.

You, as I recall, have Irish blood, however. :shrug:

World's End Stella
11-14-2017, 02:25 PM
I rather enjoy the element of self-discipline, to be honest.

Oh yes, I quite agree. Waking up from a sound sleep after a night of abstinence is a fine thing. I did that this very morning.

But a chap surely is entitled to mix in the odd cheeky night and not feel less about himself for it? :shrug:

Sir C
11-14-2017, 02:25 PM
You enjoy the extremes of self-indulgence or self-denial. It's one or t'other. Two sides of the same coin, sort of thing. Moderation is for fags.

Aye. Two cheeks of the same arse, one might say. I find that while I'm running every day, all is well, but if I miss a day, I have to have a week off to recover my rhythm, then go again.

Sir C
11-14-2017, 02:29 PM
Oh yes, I quite agree. Waking up from a sound sleep after a night of abstinence is a fine thing. I did that this very morning.

But a chap surely is entitled to mix in the cheeky night and not feel less about himself for it? :shrug:

A chap is entitled to do whatever he wishes; however, once a chap has imposed a rule upon himself, breaking this rule breaks the very man.

As Bolt's Thomas More said, "When a man takes an oath, Meg, he's holding his own self in his own hands. Like water. And if he opens his fingers then — he needn't hope to find himself again."

Sir C
11-14-2017, 02:31 PM
I would be doing you a terrible disservice if I was anything other than blunt old friend.
So,here goes........you silly *******.You're born then you die.Anything other than a hedonistic lifestyle is for MUGGS

I've had a decent run, c. I've drank a river of hooch, burnt fields of fags and snorted mountains of gak, but each man must know his limits. Also, bear in mind I married a young chick. I need to make an effort not to leave her alone too quickly.

Burney
11-14-2017, 02:32 PM
I would disagree with your contention. Alcohol should be enjoyed on multiple levels; not only the steam in and get trolleyed situation, but the gentle enjoyment of a few pints or glasses over several hours. As an example, I take my son to the pub at 12pm every Sunday (training, I refer to it as), he has two pints of coke, I have 2-3 pints of ale and we share a large plate of chips. Upon returning to Chez WES, I have no desire for more alcohol. I kip in the couch, a book in front of the fire in the kitchen, either of these nicely finish off the experience.

You, as I recall, have Irish blood, however. :shrug:

The fact that you think that ‘getting trolleyed’ and ‘gentle enjoyment’ are the two parameters of drinking is rather the point. You don’t get it.

World's End Stella
11-14-2017, 02:33 PM
I need to make an effort not to leave her alone too quickly.

Are you quite sure she's not looking forward to the money/freedom?

TheCurly
11-14-2017, 02:34 PM
I've had a decent run, c. I've drank a river of hooch, burnt fields of fags and snorted mountains of gak, but each man must know his limits. Also, bear in mind I married a young chick. I need to make an effort not to leave her alone too quickly.
Fret not over the little lassie.She'll be grand,you are heavily insured are you not?

World's End Stella
11-14-2017, 02:34 PM
The fact that you think that ‘getting trolleyed’ and ‘gentle enjoyment’ are the two parameters of drinking is rather the point. You don’t get it.

I used those two only as examples. There are many others.

Although I would agree that I have no idea what you're on about.

Burney
11-14-2017, 02:34 PM
Aye. Two cheeks of the same arse, one might say. I find that while I'm running every day, all is well, but if I miss a day, I have to have a week off to recover my rhythm, then go again.

‘The lilies and languor of virtue...and the roses and raptures of vice’ as dear old Algernon Charles Swinburne put it.

Mind you, I’m not sure it’s not t’other way about these days.

Sir C
11-14-2017, 02:36 PM
Fret not over the little lassie.She'll be grand,you are heavily insured are you not?

Well, yes, and it's a conversation that we have had. The problem is that she contends that she likes me and would rather I was around.

Odd bird, I know.

Burney
11-14-2017, 02:38 PM
Well, yes, and it's a conversation that we have had. The problem is that she contends that she likes me and would rather I was around.

Odd bird, I know.

Yes. But won't you be terribly bored? :-(

Sir C
11-14-2017, 02:41 PM
Yes. But won't you be terribly bored? :-(

Look, if you'd rather I simply topped myself, why not just come out with it?

Luis Anaconda
11-14-2017, 02:41 PM
Well, yes, and it's a conversation that we have had. The problem is that she contends that she likes me and would rather I was around.

Odd bird, I know.

Perhaps she should lay off the sauce?

Burney
11-14-2017, 02:43 PM
Look, if you'd rather I simply topped myself, why not just come out with it?

Not at all. I'm just anticipating a similar conversation of my own down the line and projecting.

Does anyone really want to be stuck with a sober me in their dotage? I can't believe so. I'd be a fücking massive pain in the arse wandering around, bored out of my tiny mind and wishing I could have a cocking drink. :-(

Burney
11-14-2017, 02:45 PM
Perhaps she should lay off the sauce?

Hmmm. Or... get fired in more so they hit the finish line around the same time? The least she could do imo.

Sir C
11-14-2017, 02:45 PM
Not at all. I'm just anticipating a similar conversation of my own down the line and projecting.

Does anyone really want to be stuck with a sober me in their dotage? I can't believe so. I'd be a fücking massive pain in the arse wandering around wishing I could have a cocking drink. :-(

It's seriously not hard. It's just a question of breaking the habit, I think.

Luis Anaconda
11-14-2017, 02:46 PM
Hmmm. Or... get fired in more so they hit the finish line around the same time? The least she could do imo.

gpwm b. It would only be fair

Sir C
11-14-2017, 02:46 PM
Hmmm. Or... get fired in more so they hit the finish line around the same time? The least she could do imo.

Birds last longer, though. Plus she's 11 years behind. So basically I'd be asking her to kill herself 20 years before she's due to go. Which seems a lot to ask.

Burney
11-14-2017, 02:47 PM
It's seriously not hard. It's just a question of breaking the habit, I think.

Oh, I don't doubt that. It's just not wanting to that's the problem.

Burney
11-14-2017, 02:49 PM
Birds last longer, though. Plus she's 11 years behind. So basically I'd be asking her to kill herself 20 years before she's due to go. Which seems a lot to ask.

Mate, if you were Hindoos back in the day, she'd be expected to chuck herself on your pyre. By contrast, asking her to pile into the booze, fags and drugs seems pretty reasonable.

Burney
11-14-2017, 02:50 PM
gpwm b. It would only be fair

I am nothing if not fair-minded, la. :shrug:

TheCurly
11-14-2017, 02:51 PM
Oh, I don't doubt that. It's just not wanting to that's the problem.

FFS my auld fella was lying in hospital after a stroke,half of him looking like a deflated balloon and he still wanted me to smuggle in his half bottle :-(

Burney
11-14-2017, 02:52 PM
FFS my auld fella was lying in hospital after a stroke,half of him looking like a deflated balloon and he still wanted me to smuggle in his half bottle :-(

Well if you were in that state, c, wouldn't you rather be pïssed?

TheCurly
11-14-2017, 02:56 PM
Well if you were in that state, c, wouldn't you rather be pïssed?

Oh most def b
Me ma slapped the ears of me for taking him down for a puff of my cig

SWv2
11-14-2017, 03:23 PM
I would disagree with your contention. Alcohol should be enjoyed on multiple levels; not only the steam in and get trolleyed situation, but the gentle enjoyment of a few pints or glasses over several hours. As an example, I take my son to the pub at 12pm every Sunday (training, I refer to it as), he has two pints of coke, I have 2-3 pints of ale and we share a large plate of chips. Upon returning to Chez WES, I have no desire for more alcohol. I kip on the couch, a book in front of the fire in the kitchen, either of these nicely finish off the experience.

You, as I recall, have Irish blood, however. :shrug:

Not you as well ffs!!!

IUFG
11-14-2017, 04:08 PM
Not you as well ffs!!!

ffs indeed...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFvbOdnzTKk

Rich
11-14-2017, 04:48 PM
I rather enjoy the element of self-discipline, to be honest.

Have you considered becoming a monk, Sir C? A life completely devoid of sin. There are some stunning monasteries in Sri Lanka that I know of. Or perhaps one in Belgium where you could while away your days making beer in order to raise money for your clan.

I think it'd suit you.