So - as with every other bloody mass shooting - are we now going to have to watch the

[Burney]

US going into a big bout of national soul-searching about gun control, only for them to do precisely fück all about it all over again? That promises to be tedious.

It's about time they accepted that it is no longer possible for them to do anything about it. There are simply too many guns out there for the tide to be turned back now. Of course they'd be better off in a society like ours where guns simply aren't an option for private citizens, but they're about 200 years late to do anything about that now.

[Ash]

US going into a big bout of national soul-searching about gun control, only for them to do precisely fück all about it all over again? That promises to be tedious.

It's about time they accepted that it is no longer possible for them to do anything about it. There are simply too many guns out there for the tide to be turned back now. Of course they'd be better off in a society like ours where guns simply aren't an option for private citizens, but they're about 200 years late to do anything about that now.

Have they blamed Russia yet?

[Sir C]

US going into a big bout of national soul-searching about gun control, only for them to do precisely fück all about it all over again? That promises to be tedious.

It's about time they accepted that it is no longer possible for them to do anything about it. There are simply too many guns out there for the tide to be turned back now. Of course they'd be better off in a society like ours where guns simply aren't an option for private citizens, but they're about 200 years late to do anything about that now.

The way things are going I'd be happier if guns were available here, to be honest. The apparent ballistic rise of the radical, violent far left can only result in bloodshed sooner or later, and a semi-automatic weapon or two might be useful for protecting the memsahib against the likes of peter and jorge :-(

[Peter]

The way things are going I'd be happier if guns were available here, to be honest. The apparent ballistic rise of the radical, violent far left can only result in bloodshed sooner or later, and a semi-automatic weapon or two might be useful for protecting the memsahib against the likes of peter and jorge :-(


Its a pity Jorge isn't here to see you describe me as 'radical, violent far left'.... he would have enjoyed it so much.

[Sir C]

Its a pity Jorge isn't here to see you describe me as 'radical, violent far left'.... he would have enjoyed it so much.

Whilt I appreciate that you lack the foaming-at-the-mouth lunacy of some of your compatriots, p, you wouldn't deny that ultimately, you all drain your kidneys into a shared vessel?

[Burney]

The way things are going I'd be happier if guns were available here, to be honest. The apparent ballistic rise of the radical, violent far left can only result in bloodshed sooner or later, and a semi-automatic weapon or two might be useful for protecting the memsahib against the likes of peter and jorge :-(

My goodness! You don’t think the vile lefties would try and sully our poor, innocent womenfolk with their vile, socialist lusts, do you? :-(

[eastgermanautos]

US going into a big bout of national soul-searching about gun control, only for them to do precisely fück all about it all over again? That promises to be tedious.

It's about time they accepted that it is no longer possible for them to do anything about it. There are simply too many guns out there for the tide to be turned back now. Of course they'd be better off in a society like ours where guns simply aren't an option for private citizens, but they're about 200 years late to do anything about that now.

I remember in my younger days back in Baltimore you could buy an M-16 assault rifle out of the back of a comic book for $169. It would arrive in the mail.

[Burney]

Its a pity Jorge isn't here to see you describe me as 'radical, violent far left'.... he would have enjoyed it so much.

If there were an election tommorow, you’d vote for a Labour Party led by Corbyn, McDonnell and Abbott with Momentum as their attack dogs.

Given that fact, it’s hard to see how you can be described as anything else, p. :shrug:

[Pokster]

My goodness! You don’t think the vile lefties would try and sully our poor, innocent womenfolk with their vile, socialist lusts, do you? :-(

Only your mum

[Peter]

Whilt I appreciate that you lack the foaming-at-the-mouth lunacy of some of your compatriots, p, you wouldn't deny that ultimately, you all drain your kidneys into a shared vessel?

I am going to kill you, if that is what you mean.

[Burney]

I remember in my younger days back in Baltimore you could buy an M-16 assault rifle out of the back of a comic book for $169. It would arrive in the mail.

Fantastic. I’d have been well up for that. Always envied your access to firearms (while also acknowledging that it has its downsides).

[Peter]

If there were an election tommorow, you’d vote for a Labour Party led by Corbyn, McDonnell and Abbott with Momentum as their attack dogs.

Given that fact, it’s hard to see how you can be described as anything else, p. :shrug:

I wasnt complaining. I just said Jorge would have found it funny.

I care little for your labels.

[Burney]

I wasnt complaining. I just said Jorge would have found it funny.

I care little for your labels.

I'm wondering what Jorge with his hipsterish pro-Catalan pose is making of current events? After all, he's got a hard-on for Catalonia, but is on record as deploring people having referendums to determine how and by whom they are governed. Hard to square that circle.

[Burney]

Have they blamed Russia yet?

No, but those cheeky scamps at ISIS have claimed responsibility. :hehe:

Little beggars they are. They'd claim responsibility for a car backfiring that lot.

[Peter]

I'm wondering what Jorge with his hipsterish pro-Catalan pose is making of current events? After all, he's got a hard-on for Catalonia, but is on record as deploring people having referendums to determine how and by whom they are governed. Hard to square that circle.


He might focus on the violence handed out by the police to peaceful protesters. It wasnt pretty.......

None of us like referenda. The worst way to measure the public mood is to ask them a direct question. You might get a direct answer.

[Burney]

He might focus on the violence handed out by the police to peaceful protesters. It wasnt pretty.......

None of us like referenda. The worst way to measure the public mood is to ask them a direct question. You might get a direct answer.

They're a weapon of last resort and often a blunt one, certainly. However, they do fulfil a democratic need sometimes.

[Sir C]

I am going to kill you, if that is what you mean.

Yes, you could hang me from a bridge - next to the current foreign secretary, perhaps #kindergentlerpolitics

[Peter]

They're a weapon of last resort and often a blunt one, certainly. However, they do fulfil a democratic need sometimes.

To ask fundamental questions about the nature of our democracy and constitution?

See, if you have a written constitution then judges do all this for you.

[Peter]

Yes, you could hang me from a bridge - next to the current foreign secretary, perhaps #kindergentlerpolitics

You'd love that, wouldn't you.

I was planning to just shoot you in the head and leave you on the pavement outside KFC.

[Burney]

To ask fundamental questions about the nature of our democracy and constitution?

See, if you have a written constitution then judges do all this for you.

Ah, yes. Deliberations by unelected judges deciding our fate. Lovely. Besides, as the Catalans are discovering, written constitutions can also be used as a straitjacket.

No, better to have the thing out at the polls.

[Burney]

You'd love that, wouldn't you.

I was planning to just shoot you in the head and leave you on the pavement outside KFC.


If that actually happens to Sir C, you are bang in trouble, p. :-(

[Sir C]

You'd love that, wouldn't you.

I was planning to just shoot you in the head and leave you on the pavement outside KFC.

Your threats have triggered me and I demand a safe space.

[Burney]

Yes, you could hang me from a bridge - next to the current foreign secretary, perhaps #kindergentlerpolitics

Did you see Rees-Mogg courageously, courteously and calmly facing down the trot hordes? Inspiring. Like something out of Zulu, it was.

[Ash]

To ask fundamental questions about the nature of our democracy and constitution?

See, if you have a written constitution then judges do all this for you.

You trust judges?

Why not abolish the commons altogether and let judges, lords and monarchs decide everything? Blimey, the so-called left love the ruling class more than the right. :-(

[Sir C]

Did you see Rees-Mogg courageously, courteously and calmly facing down the trot hordes? Inspiring. Like something out of Zulu, it was.

I didn't, no, I couldn't bear to watch the poor chap being subjected to the spittle and spleen of the unwashed.

The insecurity of these people, unable to accept that differing views may be expressed, displays the fragility of their argument.

[Burney]

I didn't, no, I couldn't bear to watch the poor chap being subjected to the spittle and spleen of the unwashed.

The insecurity of these people, unable to accept that differing views may be expressed, displays the fragility of their argument.

It was rather splendid, actually. These people can only treat their political opponents as Aunt Sallies. When confronted calmly and asked to explain themselves lucidly, they are flummoxed.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9bboue6EUg

[Burney]

Your threats have triggered me and I demand a safe space.


I'm not quite clear. Is he planning to shoot you outside the KFC or just dump you there?

[Sir C]

I'm not quite clear. Is he planning to shoot you outside the KFC or just dump you there?

He hasn't been entirely specific, has he? Perhaps he wishes to retain an element of surprise?

[PSRB]

US going into a big bout of national soul-searching about gun control, only for them to do precisely fück all about it all over again? That promises to be tedious.

It's about time they accepted that it is no longer possible for them to do anything about it. There are simply too many guns out there for the tide to be turned back now. Of course they'd be better off in a society like ours where guns simply aren't an option for private citizens, but they're about 200 years late to do anything about that now.

Well, once they decided that Sandy Hook was acceptable, then it was never going to change

[Sir C]

It was rather splendid, actually. These people can only treat their political opponents as Aunt Sallies. When confronted calmly and asked to explain themselves lucidly, they are flummoxed.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9bboue6EUg

What a fine fellow he is, to be sure. If thon semi-feral piece of excrement had called me a despicable person I'd have had him horsewhipped.

[Burney]

He hasn't been entirely specific, has he? Perhaps he wishes to retain an element of surprise?

Well he could at least wait until you've finished your chicken imo.

[Peter]

Ah, yes. Deliberations by unelected judges deciding our fate. Lovely. Besides, as the Catalans are discovering, written constitutions can also be used as a straitjacket.

No, better to have the thing out at the polls.

Only one solution- elected judges.

[Sir C]

Well he could at least wait until you've finished your chicken imo.

And gravy. You wouldn't deny a condemned man his gravy, b?

[Peter]

If that actually happens to Sir C, you are bang in trouble, p. :-(

If that happens to Sir C we are all in trouble. Thin end of the wedge.

Anyway, if it does happen it wasnt me.

[Burney]

Well, once they decided that Sandy Hook was acceptable, then it was never going to change

Well the harsh truth is that there is really naff all they can do to change the reality on the ground, which is that there are 300 million firearms in circulation in the United States and they're virtually untraceable. Are you going to take them back? If you do, only the law-abiding will give them to you, which means you have all the guns in the hands of the criminals and none in the hands of law-abiding citizens. Yes, you can ban dum-dums or semi-automatic weapons, but what about all the ones that are already out there? You can't do anything about them.

If I were American (which the good lord forbid), I would most certainly own guns. I would get trained in their use and keep them somewhere safe, but certainly I would feel safer with one.

[Peter]

And gravy. You wouldn't deny a condemned man his gravy, b?

I was being nice. I first considered leaving you outside an inferior chicken franchise- Dixy perhaps......

[Burney]

And gravy. You wouldn't deny a condemned man his gravy, b?

Of course. Do you know there isn't a KFC anywhere near where I live? Truly I live in the sticks.

[Peter]

Well the harsh truth is that there is really naff all they can do to change the reality on the ground, which is that there are 300 million firearms in circulation in the United States and they're virtually untraceable. Are you going to take them back? If you do, only the law-abiding will give them to you, which means you have all the guns in the hands of the criminals and none in the hands of law-abiding citizens. Yes, you can ban dum-dums or semi-automatic weapons, but what about all the ones that are already out there? You can't do anything about them.

If I were American (which the good lord forbid), I would most certainly own guns. I would get trained in their use and keep them somewhere safe, but certainly I would feel safer with one.

If I were American I would buy one and shoot myself in the head.

[Sir C]

Of course. Do you know there isn't a KFC anywhere near where I live? Truly I live in the sticks.

I made the proper KFC again at the weekend. It is a truly magnificent thing.

[Burney]

I was being nice. I first considered leaving you outside an inferior chicken franchise- Dixy perhaps......


I've always been puzzled by Chicken Cottage. Why a cottage? Why the rural imagery for a chain that is almost exclusively to be found in the shīttier bits of South London. Why not a Chicken House, a Chicken Flat or a Chicken Semi?

[Burney]

I made the proper KFC again at the weekend. It is a truly magnificent thing.

I am homo alone tonight. I could go to 'Huckleberry Chicken'. They deliver in Smart Cars. Or I could get a kebab. Or I could cook something decent.

[Peter]

I've always been puzzled by Chicken Cottage. Why a cottage? Why the rural imagery for a chain that is almost exclusively to be found in the shīttier bits of South London. Why not a Chicken House, a Chicken Flat or a Chicken Semi?

The image of the roaming, rural chicken.

[Burney]

The image of the roaming, rural chicken.

I somehow doubt that the chickens who end up gracing the Cottage have ever roamed much.

[Sir C]

I am homo alone tonight. I could go to 'Huckleberry Chicken'. They deliver in Smart Cars. Or I could get a kebab. Or I could cook something decent.

You know that the correct choice is the kebab. A large mixed.

In the morning you may stare at the grease congealed on the remains and indulge in some self-disgust, but for this evening, enjoy.

[bbrian]

Well the harsh truth is that there is really naff all they can do to change the reality on the ground, which is that there are 300 million firearms in circulation in the United States and they're virtually untraceable. Are you going to take them back? If you do, only the law-abiding will give them to you, which means you have all the guns in the hands of the criminals and none in the hands of law-abiding citizens. Yes, you can ban dum-dums or semi-automatic weapons, but what about all the ones that are already out there? You can't do anything about them.

If I were American (which the good lord forbid), I would most certainly own guns. I would get trained in their use and keep them somewhere safe, but certainly I would feel safer with one.

Are you daft Burney? ..the dems say its totally within reason to get all 300 million weapons back via buyback programs e.t.c

Of course though , rounding up 12 million illegals is beyond impossible :-)

[Burney]

If I were American I would buy one and shoot myself in the head.

I'll say one thing for this Las Vegas shooter, he's broken the record and then, rather than carrying on selfishly, topped himself. Thus he's brought matters to a close and left the field open for others to come after his record. Sporting of him, really.

[Peter]

I somehow doubt that the chickens who end up gracing the Cottage have ever roamed much.

Chicken Council Estate doesnt sound very appealing.

[Burney]

Chicken Council Estate doesnt sound very appealing.

Neither do 'Chicken Shack' or 'Pizza Hut', tbh. While 'International House of Pancakes' is just weird (particularly as it's not international), but they do OK.

[Peter]

Neither do 'Chicken Shack' or 'Pizza Hut', tbh. While 'International House of Pancakes' is just weird (particularly as it's not international), but they do OK.

True. One wouldn't normally think of a hut as an ideal place to consume pizza. And as it turns out, it isn't.