Please can someone let me know quite how Labour are

[PSRB]

actually going to able to finance all their proposals just outlined by that maniac, McDonnell?

[Ash]

From the £350 million a week :cloud9:

[Peter]

actually going to able to finance all their proposals just outlined by that maniac, McDonnell?

Mainly by not winning an election.

[Peter]

From the £350 million a week :cloud9:

No, that is already earmarked for the NHS. We are building a new hospital every week.

[Ash]

No, that is already earmarked for the NHS. We are building a new hospital every week.

Labour never said dem fings. :shakehead:

[Peter]

Labour never said dem fings. :shakehead:

The people have spoken. They voted to spend the money on the NHS. NHS means NHS. To refuse to honour that pledge would be a betrayal of the voters. You must respect their decision.

52 new hospitals a year. Oh yes

[Monty92]

Mainly by not winning an election.

You're more confident than me :-(

Not that I think it's a dead cert, of course. We don't even have a clue when the next GE will be, for starters.

[Monty92]

The people have spoken. They voted to spend the money on the NHS. NHS means NHS. To refuse to honour that pledge would be a betrayal of the voters. You must respect their decision.

52 new hospitals a year. Oh yes

There was no pledge. How could it have been a pledge? It was a suggestion by people spanning several different political parties while campaigning on a non party-specific issue.

[Peter]

You're more confident than me :-(

Not that I think it's a dead cert, of course. We don't even have a clue when the next GE will be, for starters.

Along with pretty much everyone else I was hopelessly wrong on the outcome of the last one. **** knows.

[Peter]

There was no pledge. How could it have been a pledge? It was a suggestion by people spanning several different political parties while campaigning on a non party-specific issue.

I wasnt being entirely serious. Not remotely, in fact.

[Monty92]

Along with pretty much everyone else I was hopelessly wrong on the outcome of the last one. **** knows.

I was very much right, which is why my current instincts scare the shít out of me :-(

[Monty92]

I wasnt being entirely serious. Not remotely, in fact.

When has that ever been a reason not to call you a ****? :shrug:

[Peter]

I was very much right, which is why my current instincts scare the shít out of me :-(

I got predictions of that result, from those in the know, to within about 1%. I ignored them.

What makes that even more stupid is that the same sources told me the outcome of the referendum pretty much spot on. I ignored them then as well and clearly failed to learn the lesson.

[Peter]

When has that ever been a reason not to call you a ****? :shrug:

But you didnt call me a ****.

Oh wait, are you calling me one now? You are, aren't you.....

[Ash]

I got predictions of that result, from those in the know, to within about 1%. I ignored them.

What makes that even more stupid is that the same sources told me the outcome of the referendum pretty much spot on. I ignored them then as well and clearly failed to learn the lesson.

Sounds like there's a few bob to made from your sources next time round, for the gamblingistically inclined.

[Peter]

Sounds like there's a few bob to made from your sources next time round, for the gamblingistically inclined.

Its intelligence gathered from street level campaigning and canvassing. It tends to reflect the polls reasonably closely, usually with a particular slight one way but the prediction is recognisable. On these two occasions it wasnt, at all. I assumed it was wrong. It was wrong in 92 and again in 2015. I ignored it both times and was proved right.

So, its roughly 2-2

[World's End Stella]

Its intelligence gathered from street level campaigning and canvassing. It tends to reflect the polls reasonably closely, usually with a particular slight one way but the prediction is recognisable. On these two occasions it wasnt, at all. I assumed it was wrong. It was wrong in 92 and again in 2015. I ignored it both times and was proved right.

So, its roughly 2-2

I share Monty's concern.

You Brits really are a peculiar lot. My cynicism is prompted by the following exchange between myself and someone of considerable intellect who works for this investment bank of ours:

Me: You can't tell me that you would actually vote for Corbyn? That Corbyn as PM does not scare the crap out of you?
Him: He's better than the Tories, he actually cares about people
Me: But you understand that he's in the hip pocket of the unions, wants to implement economic policies that went out of fashion in the early 80s mostly because they resulted in Great Britain almost being bankrupted and that - crucially - he failed his A levels. You're happy with a socialist who failed his A levels and is in the pocket of the unions running the country?
Him: Yeah but look at how badly the Tories have screwed up
Me: Yes, they are far from perfect but are you really comfortable with Corbyn as PM given how limited he is intellectually?
Him: He cares about people, the Tories don't

If he can think that way, imagine how stupid people will feel :-\