Neymar to PSG looks like it's happening then.

[Billy Goat Sverige]

£200m :hehe: :yikes:

[Sir C]

£200m :hehe: :yikes:

You've got to feel sorry for Barcelona though, the way PSG have dangled a shedload of money and...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

[Billy Goat Sverige]

You've got to feel sorry for Barcelona though, the way PSG have dangled a shedload of money and...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

It's great. I liked the story going around yesterday about Barca trying to get together other clubs to complain about PSG. Good luck with that :****er:

[Sir C]

It's great. I liked the story going around yesterday about Barca trying to get together other clubs and complain about PSG. Good luck with that :****er:

Wait! Itg gets better! They want Coutinho to replace him :hehe:

Barcelona get fúcked over and then fúck Liverpool over? Best transfer window ever.

[Bergkamp Was Best]

Sell Neymar for £200m, buy Coutinho for £80m...good business in my opinion

[SWv2]

Wait! Itg gets better! They want Coutinho to replace him :hehe:

Barcelona get fúcked over and then fúck Liverpool over? Best transfer window ever.

I read a headline somewhere suggesting they may want Mezut.

:-(

[Sir C]

I read a headline somewhere suggesting they may want Mezut.

:-(

If Mesut's an animal lover, we could be in trouble here :-(

[Peter]

I read a headline somewhere suggesting they may want Mezut.

:-(

Maybe we should hint that we ran some tests and it seems that Jack Wilshere has some Barca DNA.

[Ash]

It's great. I liked the story going around yesterday about Barca trying to get together other clubs to complain about PSG. Good luck with that :****er:

Barca's financial deal with the corrupt and terrorist-sponsoring Qataris, who own PSG, ended on July 1st 2017.

:sherlock:

[IUFG]

Maybe we should hint that we ran some tests and it seems that Jack Wilshere has some Barca DNA.

We could take that Belgian ******** Vermaelen back in part-ex.

I need someone to shout at. Iwobi really isn't enough of a **** to be my hate figure / scapegoat.

[Sir C]

We could take that Belgian ******** Vermaelen back in part-ex.

I need someone to shout at. Iwobi really isn't enough of a **** to be my hate figure / scapegoat.

I believe Aaron Ramsey currently holds the scapegoat position. If that doesn't suit, I have a nice little Theo Walcott here which sir might consider.

[IUFG]

I believe Aaron Ramsey currently holds the scapegoat position. If that doesn't suit, I have a nice little Theo Walcott here which sir might consider.

Theo is beyond scapegoat. Too obvious.

[IUFG]

£200m :hehe: :yikes:

Sky Sports understands...

La Liga have told Sky Sports News that they will NOT accept the payment from PSG to trigger Neymar’s release clause.

They are expecting PSG to visit their offices this afternoon.

A spokesman for the office of La Liga president Javier Tebas said:

"We will not accept the money for the liberation clause, the reason is that we have doubts that this money is in accordance with UEFA Financial Fair Play rules."

Neymar's buyout clause is believed to be €220m.

[Ash]

"We will not accept the money for the liberation clause, the reason is that we have doubts that this money is in accordance with UEFA Financial Fair Play rules."


:hehe: :hehe: :hehe:

[IUFG]

:hehe: :hehe: :hehe:

these rules only apply if Barcelona instigate them?

[Brentwood]

We could take that Belgian ******** Vermaelen back in part-ex.

I need someone to shout at. Iwobi really isn't enough of a **** to be my hate figure / scapegoat.

You can never hate a player who dresses like this on his holiday

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDF6B86W0AA9o61.jpg

[Ash]

You can never hate a player who dresses like this on his holiday

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDF6B86W0AA9o61.jpg

Blimey. Thomas Vermaelen has changed, man.

[SWv2]

"We will not accept the money for the liberation clause, the reason is that we have doubts that this money is in accordance with UEFA Financial Fair Play rules."

Neymar's buyout clause is believed to be €220m.

As an experienced mover and shaker in transfer dealings I expect when negotiations open between the clubs the fee will be lessened by the inclusion of a player such as Verratti going from France to the Spanish club effectively lessening the transfer spend by about 25%.

[World's End Stella]

:hehe: :hehe: :hehe:

I'm always surprised when people denigrate FFP as though it never existed.

I distinctly remember City being fined a rather large amount of money and both Chelsea and City openly admitting they were unable to sign players because of FFP.

Perhaps my memory is failing me :old:

[World's End Stella]

I'm always surprised when people denigrate FFP as though it never existed.

I distinctly remember City being fined a rather large amount of money and both Chelsea and City openly admitting they were unable to sign players because of FFP.

Perhaps my memory is failing me :old:

Ooh, would you look at that:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/may/16/manchester-city-fine-transfer-cap-uefa-ffp

And what's more, that:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2856165/Jose-Mourinho-Financial-Fair-Play-rules-help-Premier-League-s-big-boys.html

[redgunamo]

I'm always surprised when people denigrate FFP as though it never existed.

I distinctly remember City being fined a rather large amount of money and both Chelsea and City openly admitting they were unable to sign players because of FFP.

Perhaps my memory is failing me :old:

I think it's more that it never had any real credibility; why would UEFA be against all that lovely new money pouring into the game.

[Ash]

Ooh, would you look at that:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/may/16/manchester-city-fine-transfer-cap-uefa-ffp

And what's more, that:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2856165/Jose-Mourinho-Financial-Fair-Play-rules-help-Premier-League-s-big-boys.html

Both stories in 2014. Once upon a time there was no offside rule.

[SWv2]

Both stories in 2014. Once upon a time there was no offside rule.

My sources tell me that there is no breaching of FFP rules here at all as the transfer fee, sorry the release fee - very important distinction - is not being paid by PSG.

:sherlock:

[Luis Anaconda]

My sources tell me that there is no breaching of FFP rules here at all as the transfer fee, sorry the release fee - very important distinction - is not being paid by PSG.

:sherlock:
Yes, amazingly since becoming an ambassador for the Qatari World Cup, he's found €220 million of his own money down the back of the sofa with which to buy out his own contract. Bit of luck that

[Rich]

Yes, amazingly since becoming an ambassador for the Qatari World Cup, he's found €220 million of his own money down the back of the sofa with which to buy out his own contract. Bit of luck that

Surely the Qatar World Cup won't go ahead? One of my best mates lives in Dubai and the word on the street out there is that it will be moved. No planning for any air conditioned stadia (or in fact any stadia at all). They're going to have to get a move on if they want it there.

And this is before we consider the fact that they clearly paid for the privileged rather than being awarded it on merit.

[Luis Anaconda]

Surely the Qatar World Cup won't go ahead? One of my best mates lives in Dubai and the word on the street out there is that it will be moved. No planning for any air conditioned stadia (or in fact any stadia at all). They're going to have to get a move on if they want it there.

And this is before we consider the fact that they clearly paid for the privileged rather than being awarded it on merit.

You mean will common sense prevail in football, r? There's always a first time I suppose

[SWv2]

Yes, amazingly since becoming an ambassador for the Qatari World Cup, he's found €220 million of his own money down the back of the sofa with which to buy out his own contract. Bit of luck that


In a bizarre twist of fate, and indeed a remarkable coincidence, the sum is his fee for said ambassadorial duties thus allowing him to buy his freedom from the shackles of his FCB contract. No transfer fee.

I suppose legally it is legal and all that but you know, it’s not.

It’s all a madness anyway, PSG will still be PSG and will operate in a slightly lesser league meanwhile I expect Barcelona to simply come out of the entire thing even stronger and will remain elite.

[Billy Goat Sverige]

In a bizarre twist of fate, and indeed a remarkable coincidence, the sum is his fee for said ambassadorial duties thus allowing him to buy his freedom from the shackles of his FCB contract. No transfer fee.

I suppose legally it is legal and all that but you know, it’s not.

It’s all a madness anyway, PSG will still be PSG and will operate in a slightly lesser league meanwhile I expect Barcelona to simply come out of the entire thing even stronger and will remain elite.

Mbappe seems to have decided he wants to leave on the same day Neymar leaves Barca. Perhaps he will be going there :sherlock:

His exit will also push Lemar closer to the exit door :cloud9: #WelcomeLemar

[World's End Stella]

In a bizarre twist of fate, and indeed a remarkable coincidence, the sum is his fee for said ambassadorial duties thus allowing him to buy his freedom from the shackles of his FCB contract. No transfer fee.

I suppose legally it is legal and all that but you know, it’s not.

It’s all a madness anyway, PSG will still be PSG and will operate in a slightly lesser league meanwhile I expect Barcelona to simply come out of the entire thing even stronger and will remain elite.

I'll be very surprised if PSG get away with that, in fact I don't believe for a second they will. Rather, I expect they will simply pay the FFP fine and accept a transfer ban for a few windows with the belief that Neymar is worth it.

[World's End Stella]

Both stories in 2014. Once upon a time there was no offside rule.

And I seem to recall the same pessimism about FFP back in 2012, 2013 etc

FFP disappeared because clubs stopped doing what City and Chelsea were doing back in the late 00s. If they start doing it again I expect UEFA will become involved again.

I'm not suggesting it is tremendously powerful and not without certain flaws, you understand, but the idea that it doesn't exist and therefore has had no impact on a club's spending is demonstrably untrue.

[Sir C]

£200m :hehe: :yikes:

Is he actually that good? I mean, if he's worth £200m then Theo must be worth at least £100m.

[Rich]

Is he actually that good? I mean, if he's worth £200m then Theo must be worth at least £100m.

The whole football financial world is going to come crashing down when the TV deals go pop, with owners asset stripping clubs to get their money back.

At this point, Arsene will step forth with his healthy, black bank balance and Arsenal will dominate for decades to come :cloud9:

[SWv2]

I'll be very surprised if PSG get away with that, in fact I don't believe for a second they will. Rather, I expect they will simply pay the FFP fine and accept a transfer ban for a few windows with the belief that Neymar is worth it.

No idea mate, all seems a complete madness to me. In theory it may come down to legal stuff and the two entities - the Qatar World Cup and the sponsorship of PSG between two seperate entities.

Will all become very intersting all the same as Barcelona then move for Mbappa or whoever, Sanchez even mooted, Ozil mooted. Could be nonsense created by mischievous British media of course.

[Billy Goat Sverige]

No idea mate, all seems a complete madness to me. In theory it may come down to legal stuff and the two entities - the Qatar World Cup and the sponsorship of PSG between two seperate entities.

Will all become very intersting all the same as Barcelona then move for Mbappa or whoever, Sanchez even mooted, Ozil mooted. Could be nonsense created by mischievous British media of course.

Sanchez and Ozil are staying. They will leave for free next year, the ****s.

[World's End Stella]

No idea mate, all seems a complete madness to me. In theory it may come down to legal stuff and the two entities - the Qatar World Cup and the sponsorship of PSG between two seperate entities.

Will all become very intersting all the same as Barcelona then move for Mbappa or whoever, Sanchez even mooted, Ozil mooted. Could be nonsense created by mischievous British media of course.

The powers that be at places like Madrid will tell you that big transfers like Zidane and Neymar are far less costly than you might think because of the knock on impact on advertising, shirt sales, image rights etc.

It makes sense, although you'd never catch Arsenal falling into that trap, of course. :rolleyes:

[World's End Stella]

Mbappe seems to have decided he wants to leave on the same day Neymar leaves Barca. Perhaps he will be going there :sherlock:

His exit will also push Lemar closer to the exit door :cloud9: #WelcomeLemar

I would have thought Mbappe leaving would make Lemar significantly less likely to happen. If we wanted him badly we should have gone in early on with a big offer and secured him before the market went mad and Monaco hadn't sold anyone. As City did with Silva.

But that's not really the Arsenal (Wenger) way, is it?

[Rich]

Sanchez and Ozil are staying. They will leave for free next year, the ****s.

Word on the street is that City will let Aguero go to Arsenal in exchange for Sanchez. That has to be worth considering if we can shove Lacazette in one of the wide forward spots.

I think Ozil will sign a new deal worth a obscene amount of money.

[Rich]

I would have thought Mbappe leaving would make Lemar significantly less likely to happen. If we wanted him badly we should have gone in early on with a big offer and secured him before the market went mad and Monaco hadn't sold anyone. As City did with Silva.

But that's not really the Arsenal (Wenger) way, is it?

:-( We're going to end up with Mahrez and Wilfred Bony on deadline day, aren't we?

[Billy Goat Sverige]

Word on the street is that City will let Aguero go to Arsenal in exchange for Sanchez. That has to be worth considering if we can shove Lacazette in one of the wide forward spots.

I think Ozil will sign a new deal worth a obscene amount of money.

The first scenario won't be happening. Also, what is in it for Ozil to sign now? He's 4 months away from being able to talk to any club outside of England (although admittedly he'll probably be speaking to those too) and seeing how much they'll be willing to pay him on top of a signing on fee that would probably be €10-20m. It's in both his and Sanchez's interest to play out their contracts now and become very rich men.

[Billy Goat Sverige]

I would have thought Mbappe leaving would make Lemar significantly less likely to happen. If we wanted him badly we should have gone in early on with a big offer and secured him before the market went mad and Monaco hadn't sold anyone. As City did with Silva.

But that's not really the Arsenal (Wenger) way, is it?

Well no. I get your thinking, they'll not want to sell etc but Lemar is probably more likely to want to push for a move. All his mates have left and quadrupled their wages and everything good about the team will have gone (apart from Fabinho), why would he want to stay?

With Lemar it will come down to price, as with all their players. Monaco are reluctant sellers but willing if the price is right and the player wants out.

[Rich]

The first scenario won't be happening. Also, what is in it for Ozil to sign now? He's 4 months away from being able to talk to any club outside of England (although admittedly he'll probably be speaking to those too) and seeing how much they'll be willing to pay him on top of a signing on fee that would probably be €10-20m. It's in both his and Sanchez's interest to play out their contracts now and become very rich men.

Well they are already very rich men. We can offer them both a deal of say £200k a week with a get out clause if we fail to make the top 4. We can pay them both £10million signing on fees, safe in the knowledge that we either have them for 3/4 more years OR we sell them for a sizeable sum in the summer. Everyone wins.

And if Pep wants Sanchez that much he'll put that deal on the table. They don't see Arsenal as rivals and Aguero won't play much this season because of Gabriel Jesus (unless he gets injured again). The only issue for Arsenal is that he's 29.

[Billy Goat Sverige]

Well they are already very rich men. We can offer them both a deal of say £200k a week with a get out clause if we fail to make the top 4. We can pay them both £10million signing on fees, safe in the knowledge that we either have them for 3/4 more years OR we sell them for a sizeable sum in the summer. Everyone wins.

And if Pep wants Sanchez that much he'll put that deal on the table. They don't see Arsenal as rivals and Aguero won't play much this season because of Gabriel Jesus (unless he gets injured again). The only issue for Arsenal is that he's 29.

Sanchez would get more than a £10m signing on fee. If he were out of contract next summer he'd probably be looking at £20m + £300k-£400k a week wages.

[Luis Anaconda]

And I seem to recall the same pessimism about FFP back in 2012, 2013 etc

FFP disappeared because clubs stopped doing what City and Chelsea were doing back in the late 00s. If they start doing it again I expect UEFA will become involved again.

I'm not suggesting it is tremendously powerful and not without certain flaws, you understand, but the idea that it doesn't exist and therefore has had no impact on a club's spending is demonstrably untrue.
:hehe: Wonderful naivety from the Big Canadian there. So if a club gets new owners and spends 200 million on new players with no demonstrable increase in their income, Uefa will get involved then will they? Can't wait to see this happening after this summer.

[World's End Stella]

:hehe: Wonderful naivety from the Big Canadian there. So if a club gets new owners and spends 200 million on new players with no demonstrable increase in their income, Uefa will get involved then will they? Can't wait to see this happening after this summer.

Yes. Given that they did exactly that with City, what makes you think they wouldn't do it with other clubs? :shrug:

[World's End Stella]

Well no. I get your thinking, they'll not want to sell etc but Lemar is probably more likely to want to push for a move. All his mates have left and quadrupled their wages and everything good about the team will have gone (apart from Fabinho), why would he want to stay?

With Lemar it will come down to price, as with all their players. Monaco are reluctant sellers but willing if the price is right and the player wants out.

We'll have to agree to disagree but let's assume you are right. Can you imagine Wenger offering a price that Monaco can't turn down as the player insists he wants to leave? Has it ever happened before?

I can't think of an example. If we want Lemar, I think we need to see a 'Mbappe signs new Monaco contract' headline.

[Billy Goat Sverige]

We'll have to agree to disagree but let's assume you are right. Can you imagine Wenger offering a price that Monaco can't turn down as the player insists he wants to leave? Has it ever happened before?

I can't think of an example. If we want Lemar, I think we need to see a 'Mbappe signs new Monaco contract' headline.

We've supposedly had a third bid of £50m turned down. £60m would probably do it imo. As for him being more likely to sign if Mbappe signed a new contract, the general consensus was Mbappe would only sign a new a contract if Monaco stopped selling players.

[Luis Anaconda]

Yes. Given that they did exactly that with City, what makes you think they wouldn't do it with other clubs? :shrug:
Look at the way they cracked down on PSG before - amazing how the books suddenly balanced.

http://www.espnfc.com/story/2510651/psg-transfer-plan-uefa-lift-financial-fair-play-restrictions.

AC Milan's situation is very interesting - would put money on them never falling foul of the rules despite their massive spending.

I suppose I would agree that when an "outsider" does it they might be punished, but not one of the establishment clubs as it is as there to protect them. Would argue that reduces the "FairPlay" element of the whole thing, though