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Burney
08-01-2017, 11:16 AM
Seems to me the writers are so desperate to move the story to where they want it that they're now killing off peripheral characters with unseemly haste and in a narratively unsatisfactory way.

Billy Goat Sverige
08-01-2017, 11:22 AM
Seems to me the writers are so desperate to move the story to where they want it that they're now killing off peripheral characters with unseemly haste and in a narratively unsatisfactory way.

Only ten episodes left from this point, B. I imagine at least two or three of those will be focussing on the battle with the army of the dead, then you still have to resolve the battle for the iron throne after that (if there's anything left that is). Personally i'm finding the whole Euron thing a complete farce. He seemingly wipes out every enemy fleet he comes into contact with and doesn't seem to suffer many loses of his own.

Burney
08-01-2017, 11:25 AM
Only ten episodes left from this point, B. I imagine at least two or three of those will be focussing on the battle with the army of the dead, then you still have to resolve the battle for the iron throne after that (if there's anything left that is). Personally i'm finding the whole Euron thing a complete farce. He seemingly wipes out every enemy fleet he comes into contact with and doesn't seem to suffer many loses of his own.

Yes. He also appears able to turn up anywhere he likes, while Dragon**** consistently refuses to do the obvious and use her dragons to burn the ****er to ashes. And that's before we even start on how he managed to build 1,000 ships with very few people and no wood in the space of what appeared to be a couple of days.

All in all, he's been brought in as a plot device rather than a character and it just feels a bit shoddy.

SWv2
08-01-2017, 11:36 AM
Yes. He also appears able to turn up anywhere he likes, while Dragon**** consistently refuses to do the obvious and use her dragons to burn the ****er to ashes. And that's before we even start on how he managed to build 1,000 ships with very few people and no wood in the space of what appeared to be a couple of days.

All in all, he's been brought in as a plot device rather than a character and it just feels a bit shoddy.

Are you not kind of guilty of overthinking the whole thing here.

You struggle with the construction task of a few hundred boats in a short time period, even querying the availability of proper materials for the job.

Yet the fact that one of the main characters has a pet dragon you are cool with?

Billy Goat Sverige
08-01-2017, 11:37 AM
Yes. He also appears able to turn up anywhere he likes, while Dragon**** consistently refuses to do the obvious and use her dragons to burn the ****er to ashes. And that's before we even start on how he managed to build 1,000 ships with very few people and no wood in the space of what appeared to be a couple of days.

All in all, he's been brought in as a plot device rather than a character and it just feels a bit shoddy.

It all just seems very silly when you look into it. The Lannister army was heavily depleted after the war of the five kings yet now they have enough power to defeat the Tyrell's and the Dornish who are relatively untouched from recent wars. Obviously this means they're due a serious beating at some point to change the narrative.

Burney
08-01-2017, 11:38 AM
Are you not kind of guilty of overthinking the whole thing here.

You struggle with the construction task of a few hundred boats in a short time period, even querying the availability of proper materials for the job.

Yet the fact that one of the main characters has a pet dragon you are cool with?

Internal consistency, innit. The narrative has established that this is a world in which dragons exist, so one accepts that. However, the narrative has not established that this is a world where they have magical boat replicating machines.

IUFG
08-01-2017, 11:39 AM
Are you not kind of guilty of overthinking the whole thing here.

You struggle with the construction task of a few hundred boats in a short time period, even querying the availability of proper materials for the job.

Yet the fact that one of the main characters has a pet dragon you are cool with?

These kind of people probably also watch Dr Who, sw :freaks:

Burney
08-01-2017, 11:39 AM
It all just seems very silly when you look into it. The Lannister army was heavily depleted after the war of the five kings yet now they have enough power to defeat the Tyrell's and the Dornish who are relatively untouched from recent wars. Obviously this means they're due a serious beating at some point to change the narrative.

Well yes. It's obvious that whoever does well at first in GoT wars ends up losing. However, it's the shortcuts they're taking in achieving that that bother me.

Ash
08-01-2017, 12:52 PM
Seems to me the writers are so desperate to move the story to where they want it that they're now killing off peripheral characters with unseemly haste and in a narratively unsatisfactory way.

Obviously very disappoint to see Olenna Tyrell gone. The place won't be the same without her, though I look forward to her confession reaching Cersei.

Unsurprisingly the narrative has to have the Lannisters going into a 4-1 lead early doors but you have to worry about the Stupid Dwarf Cùnt's managerial ineptitude. Trading on his reputation on past success (the Battle of Blackwater Bay was fùcking years ago now) the SDC consistently fails with poor tactics, underestimation of the opponent, and inadequate preparation. Also he literally can't keep his star players onboard. Tyrion Out!

Sir C
08-01-2017, 12:53 PM
Obviously very disappoint to see Olena Tyrell gone. The place won't be the same without her, though I look forward to her confession reaching Cersei.

Unsurprisingly the narrative has to have the Lannisters going into a 4-1 lead early doors but you have to worry about the Stupid Dwarf Cùnt's managerial ineptitude. Trading on his reputation on past success (the Battle of Blackwater Bay was fùcking years ago now) the SDC consistently fails with poor tactics, underestimation of the opponent, and inadequate preparation. Also he literally can't keep his star players onboard. Tyrion Out!

This would be a spoiler if I could remember who is who, buit as I can't, I've got away with it.

Ash
08-01-2017, 01:08 PM
This would be a spoiler if I could remember who is who, buit as I can't, I've got away with it.

But sir, you are reading a GoT thread the day after a GoT episode. Spoilers may be available. :shrug:

Sir C
08-01-2017, 01:15 PM
But sir, you are reading a GoT thread the day after a GoT episode. Spoilers may be available. :shrug:

My assumption was that AWIMB users would be highly intelligent and sensitive souls who would refrain from giving away specific plot points for a few days at least.

Of course, assume makes an ass of you and me. Or something.

Ash
08-01-2017, 02:37 PM
Internal consistency, innit. The narrative has established that this is a world in which dragons exist, so one accepts that. However, the narrative has not established that this is a world where they have magical boat replicating machines.

Also, Euron seems to be everywhere. After smashing Yara's fleet without getting scratched he goes to King's Landing for a couple of days, then sails halfway round the world to Casterley Rock to get there basically at the same time as Greyworm's fleet. Must have had Littlefinger's Magic Horse.