Violent crime soaring. Still, at least the police have their priorities right and are

[Burney]

right on top of people saying nasty things on social media. :rolleyes:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jul/20/official-figures-show-biggest-rise-crime-in-a-decade

[Luis Anaconda]

right on top of people saying nasty things on social media. :rolleyes:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jul/20/official-figures-show-biggest-rise-crime-in-a-decade

Yes, I stopped following her some time back

[Peter]

right on top of people saying nasty things on social media. :rolleyes:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jul/20/official-figures-show-biggest-rise-crime-in-a-decade

Impressive rise in the murder rate, there.

I also heard there has been a sharp rise in sexual assaults on public transport. That is rather disturbing.

[Burney]

Impressive rise in the murder rate, there.

I also heard there has been a sharp rise in sexual assaults on public transport. That is rather disturbing.

You'd have to assume that an awful lot of that has to be London, where stabbing seems to have become rather a popular pastime.

I'm prepared to offer very generous odds that muslim immigrants are disproportionately responsible for the rise in sexual assaults. Any takers?

[Monty92]

You'd have to assume that an awful lot of that has to be London, where stabbing seems to have become rather a popular pastime.

I'm prepared to offer very generous odds that muslim immigrants are disproportionately responsible for the rise in sexual assaults. Any takers?

Perhaps. But also likely that more women are reporting entirely innocuous stuff like manspreading as sexual assault. And as we know, the police are obliged to record these incidents as fact with absolutely no investigation.

Did you hear about the young architecture student who was accused of ripping a girl's hijab off the other day?

[Burney]

Perhaps. But also likely that more women are reporting entirely innocuous stuff like manspreading as sexual assault. And as we know, the police are obliged to record these incidents as fact with absolutely no investigation.

Did you hear about the young architecture student who was accused of ripping a girl's hijab off the other day?

I did see that one, yes. Scary, really. A classic example of trial by social media.

How are you getting on with Mr Murray?

[Monty92]

I did see that one, yes. Scary, really. A classic example of trial by social media.

How are you getting on with Mr Murray?

Enjoying it. Interesting to learn that the reflex of branding anyone who questions the wisdom of mass immigration as a racist dates back so far. It's tempting to assume this is a recent phenomenon, but it seems that is very much not the case.

Also interesting to learn that the study always pointed to by lefties about immigrants being net contributors to the economy was built on a bare-faced duking of the stats.

[Burney]

Enjoying it. Interesting to learn that the reflex of branding anyone who questions the wisdom of mass immigration as a racist dates back so far. It's tempting to assume this is a recent phenomenon, but it seems that is very much not the case.

Also interesting to learn that the study always pointed to by lefties about immigrants being net contributors to the economy was built on a bare-faced duking of the stats.

Yes. The Ray Honeyford case basically set the template for anyone who subsequently questioned the success of multiculturalism in the case of muslims in the 1980s. Call them a racist, shout them down, get them sacked. Job done.

And calling that study 'duking of the stats' is being generous. It was an outright lie.

[Peter]

Perhaps. But also likely that more women are reporting entirely innocuous stuff like manspreading as sexual assault. And as we know, the police are obliged to record these incidents as fact with absolutely no investigation.

Did you hear about the young architecture student who was accused of ripping a girl's hijab off the other day?

The two examples given were manspreading (sounded pretty bloody innocent to me) and rubbing up against the woman while standing in a packed tube. Again, the woman herself couldn't work out whether it was accidental or not. The persistent movement, not always in time with the movement of the train, convinced her.

No word on whether they were muslims but then you cant say that these days, can you.

The Police are obviously taking the whole thing extremely seriously whilst accepting they cant really do anything.

So, female only carriages is the only way forward. I'm in favour. Women get on my ****ing nerves and I would love to not have to deal with them.

[Burney]

The two examples given were manspreading (sounded pretty bloody innocent to me) and rubbing up against the woman while standing in a packed tube. Again, the woman herself couldn't work out whether it was accidental or not. The persistent movement, not always in time with the movement of the train, convinced her.

No word on whether they were muslims but then you cant say that these days, can you.

The Police are obviously taking the whole thing extremely seriously whilst accepting they cant really do anything.

So, female only carriages is the only way forward. I'm in favour. Women get on my ****ing nerves and I would love to not have to deal with them.

How do we propose policing woman-only carriages? And what of the transgenders? Would possession of a functioning ***** and testicles preclude you from taking your place on a woman-only carriage?

It's a minefield, p.

[Peter]

How do we propose policing woman-only carriages? And what of the transgenders? Would possession of a functioning ***** and testicles preclude you from taking your place on a woman-only carriage?

It's a minefield, p.

Not our problem is it. Happy for all sorts of benders and weirdos to join the women. Make it their problem.

I would go further though and give them the entire train. I'll get the next one with a bunch of geezers who just pile on, shut the **** up and then get off.

[Monty92]

The two examples given were manspreading (sounded pretty bloody innocent to me) and rubbing up against the woman while standing in a packed tube. Again, the woman herself couldn't work out whether it was accidental or not. The persistent movement, not always in time with the movement of the train, convinced her.

No word on whether they were muslims but then you cant say that these days, can you.

The Police are obviously taking the whole thing extremely seriously whilst accepting they cant really do anything.

So, female only carriages is the only way forward. I'm in favour. Women get on my ****ing nerves and I would love to not have to deal with them.

Hang on, I was totally joking when I mentioned manspreading. Are you serious?

I doubt very much the fella rubbing himself off on the woman was Muslim. Muslims tend to be far more brazen when it comes to sexual assault and are more likely to opt for the "find a working class white girl and use them as your sex slave" approach.

Of course, any Muslim who does such a thing is adopting an utterly warped interpretation of the religion of peace, which as we know says absolutely nothing to endorse taking women as sex slaves.


Quran (33:50) - "O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those (slaves) whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee" This is one of several personal-sounding verses "from Allah" narrated by Muhammad - in this case allowing a virtually unlimited supply of sex partners. Other Muslims are restricted to four wives, but they may also have sex with any number of slaves, following the example of their prophet.
Quran (23:5-6) - "..who abstain from sex, except with those joined to them in the marriage bond, or (the captives) whom their right hands possess..." This verse permits the slave-owner to have sex with his slaves. See also Quran (70:29-30). The Quran is a small book, so if Allah used valuable space to repeat the same point four times, sex slavery must be very important to him. He was relatively reticent on matters of human compassion and love.

Quran (4:24) - "And all married women (are forbidden unto you) save those (captives) whom your right hands possess." Even sex with married slaves is permissible.

Quran (8:69) - "But (now) enjoy what ye took in war, lawful and good" A reference to war booty, of which slaves were a part. The Muslim slave master may enjoy his "catch" because (according to verse 71) "Allah gave you mastery over them."

Quran (24:32) - "And marry those among you who are single and those who are fit among your male slaves and your female slaves..." Breeding slaves based on fitness.

Quran (2:178) - "O ye who believe! Retaliation is prescribed for you in the matter of the murdered; the freeman for the freeman, and the slave for the slave, and the female for the female." The message of this verse, which prescribes the rules of retaliation for murder, is that all humans are not created equal. The human value of a slave is less than that of a free person (and a woman's worth is also distinguished from that of a man).

Quran (16:75) - "Allah sets forth the Parable (of two men: one) a slave under the dominion of another; He has no power of any sort; and (the other) a man on whom We have bestowed goodly favours from Ourselves, and he spends thereof (freely), privately and publicly: are the two equal? (By no means;) praise be to Allah.' Yet another confirmation that the slave is is not equal to the master. In this case, it is plain that the slave owes his status to Allah's will. (According to 16:71, the owner should be careful about insulting Allah by bestowing Allah's gifts on slaves - those whom the god of Islam has not favored).

[Peter]

Hang on, I was totally joking when I mentioned manspreading. Are you serious?

I doubt very much the fella rubbing himself off on the woman was Muslim. Muslims tend to be far more brazen when it comes to sexual assault and are more likely to opt for the "find a working class white girl and use them as your sex slave" approach.

Of course, any Muslim who does such a thing is adopting an utterly warped interpretation of the religion of peace, which as we know says absolutely nothing to endorse taking women as sex slaves.


Quran (33:50) - "O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those (slaves) whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee" This is one of several personal-sounding verses "from Allah" narrated by Muhammad - in this case allowing a virtually unlimited supply of sex partners. Other Muslims are restricted to four wives, but they may also have sex with any number of slaves, following the example of their prophet.
Quran (23:5-6) - "..who abstain from sex, except with those joined to them in the marriage bond, or (the captives) whom their right hands possess..." This verse permits the slave-owner to have sex with his slaves. See also Quran (70:29-30). The Quran is a small book, so if Allah used valuable space to repeat the same point four times, sex slavery must be very important to him. He was relatively reticent on matters of human compassion and love.

Quran (4:24) - "And all married women (are forbidden unto you) save those (captives) whom your right hands possess." Even sex with married slaves is permissible.

Quran (8:69) - "But (now) enjoy what ye took in war, lawful and good" A reference to war booty, of which slaves were a part. The Muslim slave master may enjoy his "catch" because (according to verse 71) "Allah gave you mastery over them."

Quran (24:32) - "And marry those among you who are single and those who are fit among your male slaves and your female slaves..." Breeding slaves based on fitness.

Quran (2:178) - "O ye who believe! Retaliation is prescribed for you in the matter of the murdered; the freeman for the freeman, and the slave for the slave, and the female for the female." The message of this verse, which prescribes the rules of retaliation for murder, is that all humans are not created equal. The human value of a slave is less than that of a free person (and a woman's worth is also distinguished from that of a man).

Quran (16:75) - "Allah sets forth the Parable (of two men: one) a slave under the dominion of another; He has no power of any sort; and (the other) a man on whom We have bestowed goodly favours from Ourselves, and he spends thereof (freely), privately and publicly: are the two equal? (By no means;) praise be to Allah.' Yet another confirmation that the slave is is not equal to the master. In this case, it is plain that the slave owes his status to Allah's will. (According to 16:71, the owner should be careful about insulting Allah by bestowing Allah's gifts on slaves - those whom the god of Islam has not favored).

She said that the man sat next to her and his legs were touching hers. She moved her legs and he spread his legs further so they were still touching. She made eye contact with the man sat across from her but he did nothing. At no point did she suggest that the guy did anything other than rest his legs against hers.

Sounds like he was being a bit selfish with the space but...sexual assault? I'm thinking not guilty.

[Burney]

She said that the man sat next to her and his legs were touching hers. She moved her legs and he spread his legs further so they were still touching. She made eye contact with the man sat across from her but he did nothing. At no point did she suggest that the guy did anything other than rest his legs against hers.

Sounds like he was being a bit selfish with the space but...sexual assault? I'm thinking not guilty.

Yup. Unless he whipped it out at the same time, it's a no from me.

[Ash]

Sounds like he was being a bit selfish with the space but...sexual assault? I'm thinking not guilty.

Manspreading is a pesky nuisance though. The bloke who sits next to me at the ground does it. I have to keep gently bashing his knee with mine to get him to retreat back into his own territory. I can see how a woman might interpret it in a certain way.

[Peter]

Manspreading is a pesky nuisance though. The bloke who sits next to me at the ground does it. I have to keep gently bashing his knee with mine to get him to retreat back into his own territory. I can see how a woman might interpret it in a certain way.

There is a fair old gap between nuisance and sexual assault.

I have a similar challenge on long haul flights. If I am sat next to a geezer of reasonable height then you just have to accept that your legs are going to touch every now and then and be ok with it.

Most often I am sat next to a Muslim woman whose husband takes a look at me and briefly wonders whether he would rather let his wife sit next to a western infidel or move there himself, thus surrendering his aisle seat. I have never yet seen a husband move :)

[Monty92]

There is a fair old gap between nuisance and sexual assault.

I have a similar challenge on long haul flights. If I am sat next to a geezer of reasonable height then you just have to accept that your legs are going to touch every now and then and be ok with it.

Most often I am sat next to a Muslim woman whose husband takes a look at me and briefly wonders whether he would rather let his wife sit next to a western infidel or move there himself, thus surrendering his aisle seat. I have never yet seen a husband move :)

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Religion :hehe: :clap:

[Burney]

Manspreading is a pesky nuisance though. The bloke who sits next to me at the ground does it. I have to keep gently bashing his knee with mine to get him to retreat back into his own territory. I can see how a woman might interpret it in a certain way.

Oh, I'm expert at dealing with this on aeroplanes. If a chap's trying to spread out, you make sure you put your limbs where they are actually touching his (ideally skin-on-skin). If you're determined enough, he will usually back down first because he's uncomfortable touching another man for that long.

[Peter]

683

Religion :hehe: :clap:

;)

what if the bloke next to it needs a piss? You cant have a bag of recycling shuffling round the plane

[Peter]

Oh, I'm expert at dealing with this on aeroplanes. If a chap's trying to spread out, you make sure you put your limbs where they are actually touching his (ideally skin-on-skin). If you're determined enough, he will usually back down first because he's uncomfortable touching another man for that long.

What about the **** in front who stretches his arms over his headrest, obscuring your TV?

[Burney]

What about the **** in front who stretches his arms over his headrest, obscuring your TV?

I've never had that, but if I had, I'd simply ask the fellow to shift. Failing that, cough or sneeze on his hands.

[Peter]

I've never had that, but if I had, I'd simply ask the fellow to shift.

Boring!

I just stick my knees into the back of his seat.

[Burney]

Boring!

I just stick my knees into the back of his seat.

I did add an additional suggestion.

[Ash]

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Religion :hehe: :clap:

What is going on there?

[Burney]

What is going on there?

I assume some ultra-orthodox jewish lady is very kindly protecting her fellow passengers from her evil lady germs.

Or she might be on the blob. Dunno.

[Monty92]

I assume some ultra-orthodox jewish lady is very kindly protecting her fellow passengers from her evil lady germs.

Or she might be on the blob. Dunno.

No, it's a fella. Protecting himself from the gentiles and the in-flight pork scratchings.

[Burney]

No, it's a fella. Protecting himself from the gentiles and the in-flight pork scratchings.

Oh, right. Fùcking hell. It's like he looked at the lunacy of Islamic dress codes and thought 'I can top that'.

[World's End Stella]

The two examples given were manspreading (sounded pretty bloody innocent to me) and rubbing up against the woman while standing in a packed tube. Again, the woman herself couldn't work out whether it was accidental or not. The persistent movement, not always in time with the movement of the train, convinced her.

No word on whether they were muslims but then you cant say that these days, can you.

The Police are obviously taking the whole thing extremely seriously whilst accepting they cant really do anything.

So, female only carriages is the only way forward. I'm in favour. Women get on my ****ing nerves and I would love to not have to deal with them.

Women wearing 'Baby on Board' buttons while not even showing. Gets right on my tits :nod:

[Monty92]

Women wearing 'Baby on Board' buttons while not even showing. Gets right on my tits :nod:

Why? Some women feel like absolute shít during pregnancy (more often than not during the first trimester when they are unlikely to be showing) and feel a little bit awkward about asking for a seat.

[Burney]

Why? Some women feel like absolute shít during pregnancy (more often than not during the first trimester when they are unlikely to be showing) and feel a little bit awkward about asking for a seat.

Also, it prevents that awkward thing where you offer your seat for a woman and it turns out she's just a bit fat. :-(

[World's End Stella]

Why? Some women feel like absolute shít during pregnancy (more often than not during the first trimester when they are unlikely to be showing) and feel a little bit awkward about asking for a seat.

You think sitting down takes away morning sickness, Monty? Nah, they're just being drama queens looking for a seat.

Mrs WES rode the Waterloo and City line until 8 months pregnant and never once wore one of those buttons. Proper woman. :nod:

[Peter]

Why? Some women feel like absolute shít during pregnancy (more often than not during the first trimester when they are unlikely to be showing) and feel a little bit awkward about asking for a seat.

Don't really see why they need to sit down. I feel like **** every day, sitting down doesn't help much.

[Monty92]

Don't really see why they need to sit down. I feel like **** every day, sitting down doesn't help much.

My missus fainted twice while standing on the tube during the early weeks of her pregnancy.

I think there may be a leeeetle bit lack of empathy going on here.

[Burney]

Don't really see why they need to sit down. I feel like **** every day, sitting down doesn't help much.

Yes, but you are not carrying the next generation of mankind up your chuff are you, p? The impulse to take care of pregnant females is a basic human herd instinct for sound evolutionary reasons.

[Monty92]

You think sitting down takes away morning sickness, Monty? Nah, they're just being drama queens looking for a seat.

Mrs WES rode the Waterloo and City line until 8 months pregnant and never once wore one of those buttons. Proper woman. :nod:

No, but it's likely to be more comfortable if you faint, as my missus did twice.

[Burney]

No, but it's likely to be more comfortable if you faint, as my missus did twice.

To be fair, the pregnant Mrs WES had had sex with WES, so she was probably pretty inured to nausea by that stage.

[World's End Stella]

To be fair, the pregnant Mrs WES had had sex with WES, so she was probably pretty inured to nausea by that stage.

You know this, how?

Having sex with me, I mean.

[Peter]

My missus fainted twice while standing on the tube during the early weeks of her pregnancy.

I think there may be a leeeetle bit lack of empathy going on here.

Yeah, ok, that isn't great.

Bear in mind if she had sat down it is likely some pervert would have rubbed his leg against her.

[Burney]

You know this, how?

Having sex with me, I mean.

Well I don't want to pry, but I assume she had sex with you. :shrug:

[Peter]

Yes, but you are not carrying the next generation of mankind up your chuff are you, p? The impulse to take care of pregnant females is a basic human herd instinct for sound evolutionary reasons.

I am not, this is true. If I was, I wouldn't get on the tube.

[redgunamo]

I am not, this is true. If I was, I wouldn't get on the tube.

Well, quite. That's what Range Rovers were invented for.

[Mo Britain less Europe]

Would predatory lesbians be banned from all-women carriages?