So, one day after that tragic fire and the media are obssessed in pushing that death

[7sisters]

toll figure to higher levels. One always see's both the best and worst of human behaviour following these disasters.
The questions posed by many of these journo's is at times, beyond moronic.
Some bint on ITV actually led a bloke and his little girl out of the rescue centre and back towards the smoking tower yesterday to see what his thoughts were, shortly after they'd fled the building. It's almost as if she wanted to re traumatise the poor kyunt and his youngster in order to get her story.
Does anyone really need an hourly update on just how many poor souls lost their lives, or is it just the usual ****ery of the media :shrug: These kyunts really are worse than estate agents..

[Billy Goat Sverige]

toll figure to higher levels. One always see's both the best and worst of human behaviour following these disasters.
The questions posed by many of these journo's is at times, beyond moronic.
Some bint on ITV actually led a bloke and his little girl out of the rescue centre and back towards the smoking tower yesterday to see what his thoughts were, shortly after they'd fled the building. It's almost as if she wanted to re traumatise the poor kyunt and his youngster in order to get her story.
Does anyone really need an hourly update on just how many poor souls lost their lives, or is it just the usual ****ery of the media :shrug: These kyunts really are worse than estate agents..

My favourite thing was Pier Morgan suggesting anyone living above the 15th floor should have a parachute :hehe:

[Pokster]

toll figure to higher levels. One always see's both the best and worst of human behaviour following these disasters.
The questions posed by many of these journo's is at times, beyond moronic.
Some bint on ITV actually led a bloke and his little girl out of the rescue centre and back towards the smoking tower yesterday to see what his thoughts were, shortly after they'd fled the building. It's almost as if she wanted to re traumatise the poor kyunt and his youngster in order to get her story.
Does anyone really need an hourly update on just how many poor souls lost their lives, or is it just the usual ****ery of the media :shrug: These kyunts really are worse than estate agents..

It makes good TV (in their eyes).

SKY reporter saying to a boy that at least he wouldn't have to go to school today

[Pat Vegas]

toll figure to higher levels. One always see's both the best and worst of human behaviour following these disasters.
The questions posed by many of these journo's is at times, beyond moronic.
Some bint on ITV actually led a bloke and his little girl out of the rescue centre and back towards the smoking tower yesterday to see what his thoughts were, shortly after they'd fled the building. It's almost as if she wanted to re traumatise the poor kyunt and his youngster in order to get her story.
Does anyone really need an hourly update on just how many poor souls lost their lives, or is it just the usual ****ery of the media :shrug: These kyunts really are worse than estate agents..

Will there be a silence for these people who died? Who decides on this stuff.

I've also lost all faith in humanity. That video that a woman broadcast live on facebook whilst being trapped? Is that the first thing you can think of to do? sad times.

[Pokster]

Will there be a silence for these people who died? Who decides on this stuff.

I've also lost all faith in humanity. That video that a woman broadcast live on facebook whilst being trapped? Is that the first thing you can think of to do? sad times.

Sadly it might have been the first and last thing she thought of doing

[World's End Stella]

I lived near that place when I first move to London and trust me, it is very, very, very nasty there. Not a place to go out at night alone.

I'm guessing they're going to find that place was a tinder box and people were being fleeced by a dodgy landlord.

[Burney]

toll figure to higher levels. One always see's both the best and worst of human behaviour following these disasters.
The questions posed by many of these journo's is at times, beyond moronic.
Some bint on ITV actually led a bloke and his little girl out of the rescue centre and back towards the smoking tower yesterday to see what his thoughts were, shortly after they'd fled the building. It's almost as if she wanted to re traumatise the poor kyunt and his youngster in order to get her story.
Does anyone really need an hourly update on just how many poor souls lost their lives, or is it just the usual ****ery of the media :shrug: These kyunts really are worse than estate agents..

Even more sickening is the rush to politicise it. I've heard both Tories and Labour politicians blamed, heard one cretin of an MP call it 'corporate manslaughter' and even one suggestion that the fire occurred because flammable materials were used in the name of 'sustainability'. All while the bodies are still in the building. Repellent.

[Pat Vegas]

Even more sickening is the rush to politicise it. I've heard both Tories and Labour politicians blamed, heard one cretin of an MP call it 'corporate manslaughter' and even one suggestion that the fire occurred because flammable materials were used in the name of 'sustainability'. All while the bodies are still in the building. Repellent.

There are already conspiracies about it.
It was the only won to have the 'renovation' and now it's gone up in flames. So now they'll declare the other 2 nearby blocks unsafe and get rid of them too, and perhaps get rid of all these people out of that area.

[7sisters]

Even more sickening is the rush to politicise it. I've heard both Tories and Labour politicians blamed, heard one cretin of an MP call it 'corporate manslaughter' and even one suggestion that the fire occurred because flammable materials were used in the name of 'sustainability'. All while the bodies are still in the building. Repellent.

Indeed. James O'Brien, a prominent lefty gobshyte, stampeded to question the whole, all poor people are wonderful schtick yesterday and that you wouldn't find these levels of housing safety going on in the more affluent leafy boroughs.
It's almost as if those who can afford better social circumstances should be blamed for exercising their position to afford better social circumstances :yawn:

[Burney]

There are already conspiracies about it.
It was the only won to have the 'renovation' and now it's gone up in flames. So now they'll declare the other 2 nearby blocks unsafe and get rid of them too, and perhaps get rid of all these people out of that area.

Oh, that's nothing. I saw some gobshïte on twitter claiming it was deliberate revenge by the tories for Kensington and Chelsea going to Labour last week. The idea that these people actually believe this stufff is genuinely scary.

[Pat Vegas]

Oh, that's nothing. I saw some gobshïte on twitter claiming it was deliberate revenge by the tories for Kensington and Chelsea going to Labour last week. The idea that these people actually believe this stufff is genuinely scary.

:hehe: mental.

I also read some nutter saying it was revenge from god for the Manchester and London attacks.

[Burney]

:hehe: mental.

I also read some nutter saying it was revenge from god for the Manchester and London attacks.

Seems a bit indiscriminate to me. Sure, a lot of the victims were probably muslim, but an awful lot probably weren't.

Mind you, God has form in the 'indiscriminate killing' department, I suppose. :noah:

[Pat Vegas]

Seems a bit indiscriminate to me. Sure, a lot of the victims were probably muslim, but an awful lot probably weren't.

Mind you, God has form in the 'indiscriminate killing' department, I suppose. :noah:

:nod:

On a different note It has ruled purchasing a flat imo. sure houses catch on fire but I am not fond of the idea of owning a flat. I want what I own to directly touch the ground. Not with people above or below or to the side of me who can destroy the place.

and to put the conspiracy hat back on. Notice that the whole building was on fire but it didn't collapse. :9/11 truth: :hehe: LA will be all over me on that one.

[Burney]

:nod:

On a different note It has ruled purchasing a flat imo. sure houses catch on fire but I am not fond of the idea of owning a flat. I want what I own to directly touch the ground. Not with people above or below or to the side of me who can destroy the place.

and to put the conspiracy hat back on. Notice that the whole building was on fire but it didn't collapse. :9/11 truth: :hehe: LA will be all over me on that one.

When my wife and I were looking at homes, I quite fancied the idea of one of the riverside flats near where I live now. She rightly pointed out that it would potentially mean neighbours above, below and on both sides of us and I immediately fücked the idea out the window.

[Billy Goat Sverige]

Even more sickening is the rush to politicise it. I've heard both Tories and Labour politicians blamed, heard one cretin of an MP call it 'corporate manslaughter' and even one suggestion that the fire occurred because flammable materials were used in the name of 'sustainability'. All while the bodies are still in the building. Repellent.

I've even seen people bring class into it, blaming the yuppies in the new posh flats across the road who complained to have the "eyesore" where the poor are kept made more aesthetically pleasing.

[Burney]

I've even seen people bring class into it, blaming the yuppies in the new posh flats across the road who complained to have the "eyesore" where the poor are kept made more aesthetically pleasing.

This cünt, basically (who looks oddly like former QPR and England player Trevor Sinclair).

https://twitter.com/Channel4News/status/875289074185228288

[Pokster]

Oh, that's nothing. I saw some gobshïte on twitter claiming it was deliberate revenge by the tories for Kensington and Chelsea going to Labour last week. The idea that these people actually believe this stufff is genuinely scary.

"Gob****e on twitter" covers it... i doubt anyone who posts crap like that actually believes it, they just like sendinmg it out into twitter space to get people's backs up

[Pokster]

I've even seen people bring class into it, blaming the yuppies in the new posh flats across the road who complained to have the "eyesore" where the poor are kept made more aesthetically pleasing.

Wasn't part of the reason they put cladding on was to improve the look of the place

[Burney]

Wasn't part of the reason they put cladding on was to improve the look of the place

Perhaps, but it's still something of a leap from that to 'It's all the fault of the posh people'

[Pokster]

Perhaps, but it's still something of a leap from that to 'It's all the fault of the posh people'

As I said earlier, Gob****es on twitter

[Billy Goat Sverige]

Wasn't part of the reason they put cladding on was to improve the look of the place

That's the trend with most of these old council tower blocks. The residents probably welcomed it at the time.

[Burney]

That's the trend with most of these old council tower blocks. The residents probably welcomed it at the time.

Of course, the truth about those old tower blocks is that they're simply outdated and too expensive to maintain properly and ought to be pulled down. However, with nowhere to put the residents...

[Billy Goat Sverige]

Of course, the truth about those old tower blocks is that they're simply outdated and too expensive to maintain properly and ought to be pulled down. However, with nowhere to put the residents...

In some places they pull them down and team up with a developer to build brand new apartment blocks. Half of the flate go to council tenants and the other half are put up for sale. What happened the other day is truly awful but the whole line about council tenants or "the poor" being treated like **** and hard done by is *******s.

[Pat Vegas]

Of course, the truth about those old tower blocks is that they're simply outdated and too expensive to maintain properly and ought to be pulled down. However, with nowhere to put the residents...

The residents mainly seem to be foreign so get rid of em :hide:

That's what Brexit, terrorism and election have done they've made me racist.

[IUFG]

The residents mainly seem to be foreign so get rid of em :hide:

That's what Brexit, terrorism and election have done they've made me racist.

A bit of 'social cleansing' was it, f?

Absolute tradegy in any case.

I seem to remember The Address going up in similar fashion near the Burj Khalifa in Dubai.
Cladding was blamed then iirc (for being ****ing flammable).

I think they also concluded it acts as a conduit for the flames to lick up the building.

[Ash]

I lived near that place when I first move to London and trust me, it is very, very, very nasty there. Not a place to go out at night alone.

I'm guessing they're going to find that place was a tinder box and people were being fleeced by a dodgy landlord.

Landlord is the local authority, and as everyone has been saying, it looks like the cladding may have been the conduit for the fire to spread. All the towers by Archway tube station near me have just been clad to look better. It's happening everywhere. If they've been using flammable cladding in these places then that is madness. Not without reason was London constructed of brick and stone after 1666, and more recently concrete and glass.

I dunno how long ago that was when you were there WES, but if it was 20 years or so then it will have changed. I've walked past that block twice in the last couple of years and like so much of London now, it is mixed. Grim but slightly improving council estates nestled alongside streets of million or multi-million-pound houses. Ladbroke Grove, Notting Hill and Holland Park are only minutes away.

[redgunamo]

It makes good TV (in their eyes).

SKY reporter saying to a boy that at least he wouldn't have to go to school today

In fairness, that would've certainly been my thinking, as a schoolboy.

[Mo Britain less Europe]

I have seen 2-bedroom flats in the block advertised for £1,600 a month. Not sure how many poor people can afford that.

On the "sustainability" comment, what on earth makes these cretins think that sustainable materials are inflammable?

[Pat Vegas]

I have seen 2-bedroom flats in the block advertised for £1,600 a month. Not sure how many poor people can afford that.

On the "sustainability" comment, what on earth makes these cretins think that sustainable materials are inflammable?

Because it's clearly a mixture of council flats and people who bought their council flats and are selling/renting them.

London is getting absolutely ridiculous with this renting stuff.
I think that if you are buying to let you should be discouraged by being taxed more imo. Then again this won't work as they'll just put the rent up a bit more too.

can't win.

[Mo Britain less Europe]

Yes. One way of easing London rents would be to get all government offices out of London, maybe even move Parliament and the Queen up north.

[Pat Vegas]

Yes. One way of easing London rents would be to get all government offices out of London, maybe even move Parliament and the Queen up north.

I am sure people will disagree with me but when people are not able to buy due to lack of homes or affordability as there are others who own more than one just for income purposes I don't agree with it.

In other words I missed out on that boat.