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Pat Vegas
02-17-2017, 03:47 PM
now.

who's out the door?

Pokster
02-17-2017, 03:49 PM
now.

who's out the door?

OK, this is also provided with the understanding we would replace these with better

Cech
Monreal
Per
Gabriel
Coq
Walcott

Others I would be meh about, but I feel we can improve on all of them quite easily

71 Guns - channeling the spirit of Mr Hat
02-17-2017, 03:50 PM
now.

who's out the door?
http://www.arsenal.com/first-team/players

Pat Vegas
02-17-2017, 03:51 PM
OK, this is also provided with the understanding we would replace these with better

Cech
Monreal
Per
Gabriel
Coq
Walcott

Others I would be meh about, but I feel we can improve on all of them quite easily

:nod: That's why I stuck with who's out the door. No point listing specific players to bring in otherwise it get's a bit silly.

Or I could say. Who do you keep from the current batch to build on.

Pat Vegas
02-17-2017, 03:51 PM
http://www.arsenal.com/first-team/players

I hope Wenger doesn't see this post 71 Guns.
There is no need to be so cruel.

Peter
02-17-2017, 03:53 PM
now.

who's out the door?

Ramsey
Wilshere
Jenkinson
Debuchy
Possibly Theo or Ox but probably neither.
With Ozil and Sanchez probably going that makes enough space and income. Time to build a new midfield squad and a new forward.
(If I get rid of any more British players do I have to sign more? I really don't want to)

Pat Vegas
02-17-2017, 03:53 PM
Ramsey
Wilshere
Jenkinson
Debuchy
Possibly Theo or Ox but probably neither.
With Ozil and Sanchez probably going that makes enough space and income. Time to build a new midfield squad and a new forward.
(If I get rid of any more British players do I have to sign more? I really don't want to)

It's ok Gibbs is on the books for life.

I am surprised City have never tried to sign hum they like our full backs.

Peter
02-17-2017, 03:54 PM
OK, this is also provided with the understanding we would replace these with better

Cech
Monreal
Per
Gabriel
Coq
Walcott

Others I would be meh about, but I feel we can improve on all of them quite easily

Cech?? Why on earth.....?

Sir C
02-17-2017, 03:54 PM
now.

who's out the door?

Out on day one, Ozil and Sanchez. They've been offered contracts and don't want to sign them, so they can fúck off.

The rest are fine. We'll be fine.

Pat Vegas
02-17-2017, 03:55 PM
Out on day one, Ozil and Sanchez. They've been offered contracts and don't want to sign them, so they can fúck off.

The rest are fine. We'll be fine.

With those 2 free you can get Cesc back home.

Pokster
02-17-2017, 03:56 PM
Cech?? Why on earth.....?

Because I'm the manager....

Sir C
02-17-2017, 03:56 PM
With those 2 free you can get Cesc back home.

:nod: The dream midfield of Cazorla, Cesc and Ramsey. :champions:

I'd also bin Cech, actually. He's finnish.

Pat Vegas
02-17-2017, 03:56 PM
Because I'm the manager....

:hehe: Only been in the job 60 seconds Pokster Out!

Pokster
02-17-2017, 03:56 PM
With those 2 free you can get Cesc back home.

Cesc wanted to leave so he can **** off as well

Pokster
02-17-2017, 03:57 PM
:hehe: Only been in the job 60 seconds Pokster Out!

I signed a 4 yr contract on £5m a yr.... happy to be sacked

Sir C
02-17-2017, 03:57 PM
Cesc wanted to leave so he can **** off as well

:sigh: It was his destiny to go home for a while. The Gods, not Cesc, decreed this.

Pat Vegas
02-17-2017, 03:57 PM
:nod: The dream midfield of Cazorla, Cesc and Ramsey. :champions:

I'd also bin Cech, actually. He's finnish.

So looking back if Ozil buggers off. Should we have tried to have got Cesc back instead?

Sir C
02-17-2017, 04:00 PM
So looking back if Ozil buggers off. Should we have tried to have got Cesc back instead?

OF COURSE WE SHOULD HAVE GOT CESC BACK!

He is the soul and heartbeat of our club, f. Our captain. Our Nino.

When he was only 17 he was better than Roy Keane for Christ's sake.

Luis Anaconda
02-17-2017, 04:17 PM
:nod: The dream midfield of Cazorla, Cesc and Ramsey. :champions:

I'd also bin Cech, actually. He's finnish.

That's Jussi Jääskeläinen, you're thinking off :threeumlautname:

Burney
02-17-2017, 04:19 PM
now.

who's out the door?

Anyone who refuses to accept Our Lord Jesus Christ as his Saviour.

Luis Anaconda
02-17-2017, 04:21 PM
now.

who's out the door?

Lucas and Perez

Luis Anaconda
02-17-2017, 04:21 PM
Anyone who refuses to accept Our Lord Jesus Christ as his Saviour.

Would you also instruct the team to go out and grab the other side by the pussy?

Billy Goat Sverige
02-17-2017, 04:25 PM
now.

who's out the door?

Ramsey, Coquelin, Jenkinson, Gabriel and Walcott. Probably Giroud as well.

Pat Vegas
02-17-2017, 04:29 PM
That's Jussi Jääskeläinen, you're thinking off :threeumlautname:

This used to annoy me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antti_Niemi_(footballer)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antti_Niemi_(ice_hockey)

Both goalies.

Luis Anaconda
02-17-2017, 04:33 PM
This used to annoy me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antti_Niemi_(footballer)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antti_Niemi_(ice_hockey)

Both goalies.

Be great if Niemi was Finnish for Stopper or something. We used to get connected to Niemi every fracking week at one point

Pat Vegas
02-17-2017, 04:35 PM
Be great if Niemi was Finnish for Stopper or something. We used to get connected to Niemi every fracking week at one point

:nod: But it turned out that Wenger was Anti Niemi :hide:

Is that time must dash.

and Niemi means Peninsula. I had to check.

redgunamo
02-17-2017, 05:20 PM
Would you also instruct the team to go out and grab the other side by the pussy?

:nod: Big league.

Just Trent
02-17-2017, 05:47 PM
now.

who's out the door?

The first task is to consolidate your power base, by getting rid of potential rivals for your job. So Bould, Boro, Mickey Pearce, the chap who coaches the ladies team and Per. All out the door on day one.

The actual job of organising the players looks to be fairly straight forward. Not quite sure why Arsene makes such a drama out of it. :shrug:

redgunamo
02-17-2017, 05:58 PM
The first task is to consolidate your power base, by getting rid of potential rivals for your job. So Bould, Boro, Mickey Pearce, the chap who coaches the ladies team and Per. All out the door on day one.

The actual job of organising the players looks to be fairly straight forward. Not quite sure why Arsene makes such a drama out of it. :shrug:

Right. Especially as clubs nowadays employ a battalion of professional specialist assistants (and, in our case, ex-British Lions prop forwards!?) to do all the *real* work.

Managers no longer "manage", so much as "preside".

Just Trent
02-17-2017, 06:26 PM
Right. Especially as clubs nowadays employ a battalion of professional specialist assistants (and, in our case, ex-British Lions prop forwards!?) to do all the *real* work.

Managers no longer "manage", so much as "preside".


Indeed. Let the experts handle the finer details on the playing side. As manager, I think keeping Kronke onside is your main objective. You'd need to keep an eye on Gazidis in this regard. Make sure he doesn't try to get involved too much. Or, try to appoint a director of football who might challenge you. As long as you stay on top of those issues. I see no reason why a good 10-12 year spell in charge
wouldn't be possible.

NZgunner
02-17-2017, 10:48 PM
OK, this is also provided with the understanding we would replace these with better

Cech
Monreal
Per
Gabriel
Coq
Walcott

Others I would be meh about, but I feel we can improve on all of them quite easily

I'd add Ramsey to that list and Carzola - Ramsay because he's only ever looked quality for a couple of months a couple of years ago, Carzola because he's now an injury liability

Alberto Balsam Rodriguez
02-17-2017, 11:05 PM
now.

who's out the door?


No one should be out of the door immediately.

Ozil and Sanchez are not signing contracts so they will be sold. Replacing Sanchez and Ozil would the be the first challenge. The powers that be are responsible for getting the best money for them.

I could argue that time on the training pitch to turn essentially good players into a functioning unit would be job two. Once you have worked out that some of these players are not capable of playing the manager's game, then you think about moving them on.

Just Trent
02-17-2017, 11:38 PM
No one should be out of the door immediately.

Ozil and Sanchez are not signing contracts so they will be sold. Replacing Sanchez and Ozil would the be the first challenge. The powers that be are responsible for getting the best money for them.

I could argue that time on the training pitch to turn essentially good players into a functioning unit would be job two. Once you have worked out that some of these players are not capable of playing the manager's game, then you think about moving them on.

:nod: Plenty of room for developing/improving players in the squad. Ramsey and Ox spring to mind. Maybe even Gibbs could benefit from a different type of manager? Look at what Conte has done with Victor Moses this year.

arse-nick (avid-analogue-addict)
02-18-2017, 08:46 AM
The question should be, 'who doesn't want to stay?'. Those that feel like they're banging their heads against the wall. ie, the better players. All the wasters, those on huge wages, years on contract still but, can't be arsed to put in 100% every game, will be happy(ish) as things are.
I feel so sad that the situation has finally come to what we have seen coming for some years. AW has been an honorable and truly dedicated manager. He must be in a pretty bad place right now and either we don't have the players that can produce, or we have the players that AW can't motivate. It pisses me off big time when you we see all those jolly pictures put out on the club's web site, of the players having such a great time at London Colney on training days. As if they haven't a care in the world.
Sad days. :-(

71 Guns - channeling the spirit of Mr Hat
02-18-2017, 09:14 AM
Look at what Conte has done with Victor Moses this year.
:nod: - Conte has certainly pepped up the Chelsea team this year.

barrybueno
02-18-2017, 11:09 AM
I signed a 4 yr contract on £5m a yr.... happy to be sacked

You sold yourself short P. That other hopeless **** was on 8!

Tony C
02-20-2017, 09:01 AM
Out

Cech - damaged goods when we bought him
Ospina or Chesney - if Chesney wants to come back then it's Ospina…if he doesn't then Ospina can stay
Debuchy - just let him go
Mertersacker - same as debuchy
Ramsey - Arsenal career ended vs Watford
Wilshere - too injury prone & attitude won't change
Walcott - All he's done in 10 years at Arsenal is grown a beard
Ozil - he was only bought to appease the fans…services no longer required
Giroud - same as Ospina…time to freshen up this department


Skating on thin ice but worth 2nd chances

Gibbs - to be fair the lad hasn't had much playing time and Monreal is due an injury
Callum - lets see what he learnt on loan…still time for him to mature as player
Gabriel - probably lacking confidence - solid player and worth 1 more season
Jenkinson - same as Gabriel but maybe we send him out on loan


More or Less Gone
Santi - will expect him to fade out of existence like Arteta did…injuries have been cruel to him.


Would definitely get Kasper Schmicheal in as our new no1 and blow the rest on 1 superstar player like Griezemann.

Also would play a 3-5-2.

with Holding, Mustafi and Koscielny as the back 3.

Bellerin and Gibbs as speedy marauding wing backs

Elneny and Xhaka holding in midfield and then any combination of 3 from the following - Ox, Lucas, Welbeck, Griezemann and Alexis.

quite line Ox and Lucas holding with Griezemann up front...let's **** off Alexis a bit....

redgunamo
03-01-2017, 10:23 PM
Ramsey
Wilshere
Jenkinson
Debuchy
Possibly Theo or Ox but probably neither.
With Ozil and Sanchez probably going that makes enough space and income. Time to build a new midfield squad and a new forward.
(If I get rid of any more British players do I have to sign more? I really don't want to)

British players are alright, I think, if they actually *are* British players and not merely British players because their passport says so.

A midget midfielder like Wilshere, for example, is never going to be of any real use to us unless he somehow turns into Billy Bremner or Dennis Wise, or even David Batty. These men ought to be his ideal, not Xavi or Verratti.