In an effort to take a positive from what looks a poor position.

[SWv2]

At least we still have the home tie to come. We were told that was a good thing I seem to recall.

[Pokster]

At least we still have the home tie to come. We were told that was a good thing I seem to recall.

Now we have them just where we want them, they will be so over confident we can now go and smash them

[Burney]

At least we still have the home tie to come. We were told that was a good thing I seem to recall.

I'm looking forward to our traditional 3-0 victory. :cloud9:

[Pat Vegas]

I'm looking forward to our traditional 3-0 victory. :cloud9:

Lucas might even get to start a game.

Who'd want to play in that game :-( or even attend.

[Burney]

Lucas might even get to start a game.

Who'd want to play in that game :-( or even attend.

I reckon the sort of people who are constantly fewmin will attend in order to berate Wenger, Arsenal, etc.

[Pat Vegas]

I reckon the sort of people who are constantly fewmin will attend in order to berate Wenger, Arsenal, etc.

Wenger should have got some sort of touchline ban last night to avoid attending the 2nd leg.

It's so ****ing annoying. At half time I actually and the first few mins of the 2nd half I actually felt quite optimistic.

[Pat Vegas]

I reckon the sort of people who are constantly fewmin will attend in order to berate Wenger, Arsenal, etc.

and that woman 'come on you gunners' etc she'll be there no matter what.

[Herbette Chapman - aged 15]

I reckon the sort of people who are constantly fewmin will attend in order to berate Wenger, Arsenal, etc.
You mean like Sir C? :hehe:

[Alberto Balsam Rodriguez]

At least we still have the home tie to come. We were told that was a good thing I seem to recall.

We should have a sweep on how many turn up. Fans, not players....actually?

[redgunamo]

At least we still have the home tie to come. We were told that was a good thing I seem to recall.

The whole home advantage-thing is pure footballistic superstition, I'm afraid.

[Burney]

The whole home advantage-thing is pure footballistic superstition, I'm afraid.

Well yes. Apart from statistically and factually, you're correct.

[redgunamo]

Well yes. Apart from statistically and factually, you're correct.

OK. Good teams win games wherever they are played; **** teams lose games wherever they are played. Please show me the stats that refute this.

[Burney]

OK. Good teams win games wherever they are played; **** teams lose games wherever they are played. Please show me the stats that refute this.

http://www.economist.com/blogs/gametheory/2014/06/home-advantage-football

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/how-much-home-advantage-worth-4204033

[redgunamo]

http://www.economist.com/blogs/gametheory/2014/06/home-advantage-football

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/how-much-home-advantage-worth-4204033

I'm missing the bit where it shows good teams play good and rubbish teams are rubbish.

How about last season's Premier League table: http://www.soccerstats.com/homeaway.asp?league=england_2016

[Burney]

I'm missing the bit where it shows good teams play good and rubbish teams are rubbish.

How about last season's Premier League table: http://www.soccerstats.com/homeaway.asp?league=england_2016

It clerly shows that there is such a thing as home advantage whereby teams acquire more points at home than away. That of course doesn't transform **** teams into good ones, but it does mean that they are less **** at home than they are away.

[Pokster]

It clerly shows that there is such a thing as home advantage whereby teams acquire more points at home than away. That of course doesn't transform **** teams into good ones, but it does mean that they are less **** at home than they are away.

Burnley are a prime example this season

[IUFG]

I'm missing the bit where it shows good teams play good and rubbish teams are rubbish.

How about last season's Premier League table: http://www.soccerstats.com/homeaway.asp?league=england_2016

Blimey, I forgot how **** Manchester United were away from home.

[redgunamo]

It clerly shows that there is such a thing as home advantage whereby teams acquire more points at home than away. That of course doesn't transform **** teams into good ones, but it does mean that they are less **** at home than they are away.

I'd like to put that down as a consequence of playing at home, rather than an actual advantage of it (if there's any difference, or if indeed that actually makes any sense).

I will concede to your statistics though.

[Burney]

I'd like to put that down as a consequence of playing at home, rather than an actual advantage of it (if there's any difference, or if indeed that actually makes any sense).

I will concede to your statistics though.

:hehe: I fear you have crossed the oh-so-fine line between sophistry and utter bôllocks there, r, but it may just be that I'm too dim to grasp your meaning.

[redgunamo]

:hehe: I fear you have crossed the oh-so-fine line between sophistry and utter bôllocks there, r, but it may just be that I'm too dim to grasp your meaning.

:hehe: Yes, I see what you mean.

Thing is though, we have a pretty decent home record yet I'm reliably informed our home support is rubbish.

So, what gives; are we simply a decent team after all then?

[redgunamo]

Burnley are a prime example this season

And Crystal Palace are practically the opposite (comfortable mid-table away, bottom of the home mini-league).

Question is, why? Is it merely the venue or are there other contributory factors. And what can anybody do about it.