The BBC thing about Brexit voting demographics

[Billy Goat Sverige]

It's a bit silly to suggest someone with a degree is better qualified to make the "right" decision.

[Burney]

It's a bit silly to suggest someone with a degree is better qualified to make the "right" decision.

Well of course it is. It relies on the idea that someone straight out of East London Poly with a BA in media studies is somehow better able to grasp the ramifications of geopolitics and international finance than someone with no degree who has run a successful business for 20 years. It's simply a naked attempt to undermine the validity of the vote through sheer snobbery.

[Pat Vegas]

It's a bit silly to suggest someone with a degree is better qualified to make the "right" decision.

The whole problem with the whole thing is that none of us are qualified to vote on it.
Nobody knows what the outcome would be. sure there was plenty of shouting from both sides but nobody really seemed to come out with any actual facts.

Even the experts didn't have a clue.

[redgunamo]

The whole problem with the whole thing is that none of us are qualified to vote on it.
Nobody knows what the outcome would be. sure there was plenty of shouting from both sides but nobody really seemed to come out with any actual facts.

Even the experts didn't have a clue.

That's the point, I think. Experts are experts on **** all, as Jake Green would say.

[redgunamo]

There really *is* such a thing, isn't there? :-(


Well of course it is. It relies on the idea that someone straight out of East London Poly with a BA in media studies is somehow better able to grasp the ramifications of geopolitics and international finance than someone with no degree who has run a successful business for 20 years. It's simply a naked attempt to undermine the validity of the vote through sheer snobbery.

[Burney]

The whole problem with the whole thing is that none of us are qualified to vote on it.
Nobody knows what the outcome would be. sure there was plenty of shouting from both sides but nobody really seemed to come out with any actual facts.

Even the experts didn't have a clue.

The whole 'we weren't qualified to make the decision' thing is a complete red herring, f. It fundamentally attacks the nature of democracy, since we aren't really 'qualified' to make any democratic decision - including who will govern us best. We make these decisions on a mixture of knowledge, prejudice, gut instinct and experience. And that's fine, because that's what democracy is.
The idea that we shouldn't vote on anything without a clear vision of how it will turn out is tantamount to saying we oughtn't be allowed to vote on anything.

[redgunamo]

The whole 'we weren't qualified to make the decision' thing is a complete red herring, f. It fundamentally attacks the nature of democracy, since we aren't really 'qualified' to make any democratic decision - including who will govern us best. We make these decisions on a mixture of knowledge, prejudice, gut instinct and experience. And that's fine, because that's what democracy is.
The idea that we shouldn't vote on anything without a clear vision of how it will turn out is tantamount to saying we oughtn't be allowed to vote on anything.

Right. And we all know how *that* ends up.

[World's End Stella]

Well of course it is. It relies on the idea that someone straight out of East London Poly with a BA in media studies is somehow better able to grasp the ramifications of geopolitics and international finance than someone with no degree who has run a successful business for 20 years. It's simply a naked attempt to undermine the validity of the vote through sheer snobbery.

All true, but imagine what the BBC reporting that will do to Charles? :-)

I can feel Kent overflowing with outrage from here.

[Pat Vegas]

The whole 'we weren't qualified to make the decision' thing is a complete red herring, f. It fundamentally attacks the nature of democracy, since we aren't really 'qualified' to make any democratic decision - including who will govern us best. We make these decisions on a mixture of knowledge, prejudice, gut instinct and experience. And that's fine, because that's what democracy is.
The idea that we shouldn't vote on anything without a clear vision of how it will turn out is tantamount to saying we oughtn't be allowed to vote on anything.

It's just how I felt when I voted.
I did try to look to see what info I could find. but in this case I just saw to sides calling each other liars.

[Burney]

Right. And we all know how *that* ends up.

Well essentially it ends up with the EU Commission. :shrug:

[redgunamo]

Well essentially it ends up with the EU Commission. :shrug:

Indeed. Nice work if you can get it.

[Ash]

Indeed. Nice work if you can get it.

Especially when you can't win an election. #kinnock

[Ash]

It's a bit silly to suggest someone with a degree is better qualified to make the "right" decision.

A rehash of the charge made against the Chartists in the 1830s/40s. "Stupid oiks don't know what's best for 'em". Pure class snobbery basically.

[Sir C]

Well of course it is. It relies on the idea that someone straight out of East London Poly with a BA in media studies is somehow better able to grasp the ramifications of geopolitics and international finance than someone with no degree who has run a successful business for 20 years. It's simply a naked attempt to undermine the validity of the vote through sheer snobbery.

30 years :-(

[SWv2]

A rehash of the charge made against the Chartists in the 1830s/40s. "Stupid oiks don't know what's best for 'em". Pure class snobbery basically.

Closer to home one could align this concept with Arsenal supporters and the Wenger in / Wenger out debate where some will choose to label or group those who want “out” as being thick and perhaps uneducated.

[IUFG]

spot on, SW. :thumbup:

[redgunamo]

Closer to home one could align this concept with Arsenal supporters and the Wenger in / Wenger out debate where some will choose to label or group those who want “out” as being thick and perhaps uneducated.

Oh, I say. That's rather perceptive.

For you.

[Sir C]

Closer to home one could align this concept with Arsenal supporters and the Wenger in / Wenger out debate where some will choose to label or group those who want “out” as being thick and perhaps uneducated.

14 seconds on Arsenalfan TV will sort that out for you, sw.

[eastgermanautos]

Well of course it is. It relies on the idea that someone straight out of East London Poly with a BA in media studies is somehow better able to grasp the ramifications of geopolitics and international finance than someone with no degree who has run a successful business for 20 years. It's simply a naked attempt to undermine the validity of the vote through sheer snobbery.

Didn't you people run your country for 400 years on sheer snobbery? If common-as-dirt Shakespeare hadn't come along to piss on your chips, you'd be in a right state. But that's all right, I am benefiting from the fcked-up pound. Keep it comin' dumbasses. Just keep doin what you're doin.

[redgunamo]

14 seconds on Arsenalfan TV will sort that out for you, sw.

Lots of money on display there though, or "support", if you like. All those match tickets and season tickets, all that club shop replica tat, a worldwide audience too.

Verily, those lads must be the club's favourite people. Well done. them, imo.

[redgunamo]

It's a bit silly to suggest someone with a degree is better qualified to make the "right" decision.

That's true, especially if there's no intention to actually demonstrate those qualifications. Or, indeed, say what they might be.

LIVs are LIVs whether they have a degree or not.