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Sir C
01-16-2017, 09:59 AM
Perhaps it's true that the premerier league is simply much more competitive than Spain or Germany, and Pep is being liddle beet found out?

Billy Goat Sverige
01-16-2017, 10:05 AM
Perhaps it's true that the premerier league is simply much more competitive than Spain or Germany, and Pep is being liddle beet found out?

His City squad is also quite a bit worse than the Bayern and Barca ones.

Burney
01-16-2017, 10:12 AM
Perhaps it's true that the premerier league is simply much more competitive than Spain or Germany, and Pep is being liddle beet found out?

Maybe his dealer got nicked?

SWv2
01-16-2017, 10:13 AM
Perhaps it's true that the premerier league is simply much more competitive than Spain or Germany, and Pep is being liddle beet found out?

Everton played well yesterday and took the chances they created. City were very poor I thought, noticeable at how often they conceded possession, Silva noticeably a few times given his talent.

They've spent an enormous amount over the years and still have deficiencies right through the middle of the side - a clown in defence, no real midfield cover for Fernandinho, the loss of Gundogan is huge.

I wouldn't really pile onto the Pep is not a very good manager bandwagon just yet.

Sir C
01-16-2017, 10:14 AM
Maybe his dealer got nicked?

Yes, and from the little bit of the Manyoo Liverpool game I saw yesterday, Herr Klopp seems to have found the recipe which brings the pep.

Sir C
01-16-2017, 10:16 AM
Everton played well yesterday and took the chances they created. City were very poor I thought, noticeable at how often they conceded possession, Silva noticeably a few times given his talent.

They've spent an enormous amount over the years and still have deficiencies right through the middle of the side - a clown in defence, no real midfield cover for Fernandinho, the loss of Gundogan is huge.

I wouldn't really pile onto the Pep is not a very good manager bandwagon just yet.

I didn't suggest that he wasn't a good manager; I meant that there were those who suggested that he doesn't necessarily fart lightning and **** thunder, rather that he simply did a good job with by far the best squads in the Spanish and German leagues, but might find things in England a little trickier.

Sir C
01-16-2017, 10:17 AM
His City squad is also quite a bit worse than the Bayern and Barca ones.

Is he really still playing Sagna and Clichy?

:hehe:

SWv2
01-16-2017, 10:25 AM
I didn't suggest that he wasn't a good manager; I meant that there were those who suggested that he doesn't necessarily fart lightning and **** thunder, rather that he simply did a good job with by far the best squads in the Spanish and German leagues, but might find things in England a little trickier.

Oh I know you did not dismiss him but I expect many are just bursting to do so.

His achievements with Barcelona cannot be dismissed, especially the non-domestic success, but then I have seen his Barcelona team described as being the best ever, the players he had at that time all at their peak.

Thing is he started the season brilliantly and there was the now predictable nonsense in the media about his team going unbeaten for the year and since then silly peaks and troughs of play. If he loses at home next week against (a very good) Spurs then I suspect the Mancunian locals may become restless and with a week to go in the January window they will go again.

I like watching his teams but think it is very obvious that so many of his players have seen better days yet they don’t appear to have addressed the issue last summer.

Still, you know, perspective and all that. They are only 1-2 or whatever points behind us and at the same point in various cups as us, hardly a disaster just yet.

Luis Anaconda
01-16-2017, 10:26 AM
Is he really still playing Sagna and Clichy?

:hehe:

Didn't see the game but read that he is playing Zabaleta in midfield, which also seems to be a bit mental. Their recruitment policy is very odd. Quite how any one saw Stones as a 50miilion pound defender is baffling (talented as he is). They've needed a new left back for a while

SWv2
01-16-2017, 10:28 AM
Didn't see the game but read that he is playing Zabaleta in midfield, which also seems to be a bit mental. Their recruitment policy is very odd. Quite how any one saw Stones as a 50miilion pound defender is baffling (talented as he is). They've needed a new left back for a while

Zabaleta and Toure, worked a dream last week v West Ham. Less so yesterday.

Perhaps he sees PZ and he saw Lahm when he first went to Bayern.

They have a big hole where Fernandinho and Gundogan should be operating and not a lot of real options to fill it.

Ash
01-16-2017, 10:40 AM
Everton played well yesterday and took the chances they created. City were very poor I thought, noticeable at how often they conceded possession, Silva noticeably a few times given his talent.


Dribbly players often do concede posession though. See also Alexis Sanchez. Suarez even.

Luis Anaconda
01-16-2017, 10:42 AM
Zabaleta and Toure, worked a dream last week v West Ham. Less so yesterday.

Perhaps he sees PZ and he saw Lahm when he first went to Bayern.

They have a big hole where Fernandinho and Gundogan should be operating and not a lot of real options to fill it.

Meh - cup games. As I said, their recruitment policy is odd and left them short in several positions

SWv2
01-16-2017, 10:50 AM
Dribbly players often do concede posession though. See also Alexis Sanchez. Suarez even.

True though if I was to compare Silva to any member of the Arsenal family it would be Ozil who (no statistics to prove this) I suspect concedes possession a lot less than then Chilean.

Very bad day at the office for them, kind of how we were at Bournemouth on 60 mins before the marvellous turnaround, City simply never looked like getting back into the game at any point.

My City sources are more finger pointy at very powerful people in the background than at PG, the Begiristain and Sorrano people who have presided over many transfer windows of very underwhelming acquisitions which in turn has left them with a very suspect back 4 who are mostly all aged (Sagna, Kolarov), average (Clichy), ****ing useless (Otamendi) or banjaxed (Kompany).

A rum mix for any manager, even a “genius” one.

The two players he specifically asked for in the months leading to his arrival he got neither

Luis Anaconda
01-16-2017, 10:54 AM
True though if I was to compare Silva to any member of the Arsenal family it would be Ozil who (no statistics to prove this) I suspect concedes possession a lot less than then Chilean.

Very bad day at the office for them, kind of how we were at Bournemouth on 60 mins before the marvellous turnaround, City simply never looked like getting back into the game at any point.

My City sources are more finger pointy at very powerful people in the background than at PG, the Begiristain and Sorrano people who have presided over many transfer windows of very underwhelming acquisitions which in turn has left them with a very suspect back 4 who are mostly all aged (Sagna, Kolarov), average (Clichy), ****ing useless (Otamendi) or banjaxed (Kompany).

A rum mix for any manager, even a “genius” one.

The two players he specifically asked for in the months leading to his arrival he got neither
The Bilbao centre half? And which other one?

SWv2
01-16-2017, 11:26 AM
The Bilbao centre half? And which other one?

Our very own Hector.

He knew the defence needed to be addressed so they signed Sane, Nolito, Gabriel Jesus and others.