After brexit I had a big clear out of people on facebook etc.

[Pat Vegas]

I might need another.

I never read such ridiculous *******s.

The world is over, Can't believe what you have done, etc etc.
And the sentiment on twitter is the same old ****, everyone is a racist, sexist. :yawn:

Perhaps people are fed up with the constant bull**** being thrown at them.
I don't particularly like trump but I am sick of these comments that everyone who voted that way is a moron it was the same for the brexit. If anybody looks stupid right now are the people making these comments.

[Burney]

I might need another.

I never read such ridiculous *******s.

The world is over, Can't believe what you have done, etc etc.
And the sentiment on twitter is the same old ****, everyone is a racist, sexist. :yawn:

Perhaps people are fed up with the constant bull**** being thrown at them.
I don't particularly like trump but I am sick of these comments that everyone who voted that way is a moron it was the same for the brexit. If anybody looks stupid right now are the people making these comments.

This is why the term 'generation snowflake' exists. A lot of young people are unable to deal with anything they don't like with anything other than pant-wetting hysteria because they've been taught from early on that it's right and proper to react in that way to anything that 'threatens' you - even if that 'threat' just consists of words and ideas.

[Pat Vegas]

This is why the term 'generation snowflake' exists. A lot of young people are unable to deal with anything they don't like with anything other than pant-wetting hysteria because they've been taught from early on that it's right and proper to react in that way to anything that 'threatens' you - even if that 'threat' just consists of words and ideas.

Also it's funny how everyone is now a US political expert. I see plenty of people who have never mentioned US politics or come to think of it the United states in general, but they've are now all hysterical as that's what they've been told to be.

They need their pussys grabbed.

[Billy Goat Sverige]

People have been sucked in by all the bull**** and now you get the hyperbolic reactions like "the world isn't as safe a place today" etc...I'm sick of reading all the ****. Even on twitter i've seen people retweeting quotes about him having access to the nuke codes, like he can just log on to a PC and launch some nukes. ****ing idiots.

[Pat Vegas]

People have been sucked in by all the bull**** and now you get the hyperbolic reactions like "the world isn't as safe a place today" etc...I'm sick of reading all the ****. Even on twitter i've seen people retweeting quotes about him having access to the nuke codes, like he can just log on to a PC and launch some nukes. ****ing idiots.

:hehe: Which leads to 'He'd try to launch them on his PC but it would crash, wouldn't happen on a mac'

[Sir C]

People have been sucked in by all the bull**** and now you get the hyperbolic reactions like "the world isn't as safe a place today" etc...I'm sick of reading all the ****. Even on twitter i've seen people retweeting quotes about him having access to the nuke codes, like he can just log on to a PC and launch some nukes. ****ing idiots.

:hehe: He's got an app on his iPad, you know. He might be taking a ****, try to open a Sodoku, miss, and obliterate Moscow :-(

[Pat Vegas]

:hehe: He's got an app on his iPad, you know. He might be taking a ****, try to open a Sodoku, miss, and obliterate Moscow :-(

I find the image of him there sitting with an iPad playing sudoku quite amusing.
then Melania goes to bed and he starts looking at porn. 'yeah grab her pussy' 'big league her'

[Monty92]

This is why the term 'generation snowflake' exists. A lot of young people are unable to deal with anything they don't like with anything other than pant-wetting hysteria because they've been taught from early on that it's right and proper to react in that way to anything that 'threatens' you - even if that 'threat' just consists of words and ideas.

The thing is, it's not just younger people. I'm 36 and many of m peers are heading towards 40 and the vast majority of them recoil in horror at even the most timid suggestion that identity politics are not actually a good idea.

[Pat Vegas]

Oh yes. Most of the people going nuts on my facebook are 1 generation before me.

People are even saying it's 9/11 today :shrug:

[Burney]

The thing is, it's not just younger people. I'm 36 and many of m peers are heading towards 40 and the vast majority of them recoil in horror at even the most timid suggestion that identity politics are not actually a good idea.

Yes, but you live in North London (Finchley) and work in the media. Of course your peers are like that. They are a tiny bubble in national terms.

[Burney]

:hehe: He's got an app on his iPad, you know. He might be taking a ****, try to open a Sodoku, miss, and obliterate Moscow :-(

No great loss. Plus, a completely accidental pre-emptive nuclear strike would be the last thing Putin would expect. Shrood imo.

[Monty92]

Yes, but you live in North London (Finchley) and work in the media. Of course your peers are like that. They are a tiny bubble in national terms.

But the point is, these people were educated at a time that was still relatively free of identity politics.

For me, subscribing to the basic tenets of identity politics is the natural choice for people who aren't truly politically engaged but have a nebulous (and often hypocritical) belief in concepts of equality and progress. That is, the majority of people. I don't think eradicating it from our institutions would even work - what is needed is to encourage a far greater degree of critical thinking in areas of education other than the Sciences. Basically, reprogramme how most people think and hope that evolution does the rest.

[Burney]

But the point is, these people were educated at a time that was still relatively free of identity politics.

For me, subscribing to the basic tenets of identity politics is the natural choice for people who aren't truly politically engaged but have a nebulous (and often hypocritical) belief in concepts of equality and progress. That is, the majority of people. I don't think eradicating it from our institutions would even work - what is needed is to encourage a far greater degree of critical thinking in areas of education other than the Sciences. Basically, reprogramme how most people think and hope that evolution does the rest.

I studied English at university between 1991 and 1994. Believe me when I tell you that identity politics was absolutely fücking rife back then. I remember being kept behind after a tutorial and being angrily lectured on homophobia because I had dared to introduce the fact that WH Auden was gay into a discussion of one of his poems. Another time I was all but accused of racism for pointing out that maybe the reason a lot of post-colonial literature wasn't as widely read as 'the canon' was that it actually wasn't much good.
In fact, the sheer quantity of identity politics bullshït at university was very much what confirmed me in the view that I was right wing. But if you expose a more left-leaning soul than myself to it at an impressionable age and then combine that with a career in media or the creative arts in London, where such attitudes can be almost de rigeur and it doesn't surprise me in the least that your peers would be like that. Even so, they are far from representative.

[redgunamo]

Yes, but you live in North London (Finchley) and work in the media. Of course your peers are like that. They are a tiny bubble in national terms.

Right. Something to do with the Founder Effect; works for hounds, just as it does for people.

[Brentwood]

:hehe: Which leads to 'He'd try to launch them on his PC but it would crash, wouldn't happen on a mac'

He's going to reset the code to be 1234 isn't he

[eastgermanautos]

I studied English at university between 1991 and 1994. Believe me when I tell you that identity politics was absolutely fücking rife back then. I remember being kept behind after a tutorial and being angrily lectured on homophobia because I had dared to introduce the fact that WH Auden was gay into a discussion of one of his poems. Another time I was all but accused of racism for pointing out that maybe the reason a lot of post-colonial literature wasn't as widely read as 'the canon' was that it actually wasn't much good.
In fact, the sheer quantity of identity politics bullshït at university was very much what confirmed me in the view that I was right wing.

But if you expose a more left-leaning soul than myself to it at an impressionable age and then combine that with a career in media or the creative arts in London, where such attitudes can be almost de rigeur and it doesn't surprise me in the least that your peers would be like that. Even so, they are far from representative.

I'm with you on the Auden thing but I can't go with you on the post-colonial fiction. The problem is not the quality of post-colonial fiction -- whether it's good or sh!t -- but rather that it deprives us of a good way of assessing colonial fiction. We're always looking to put those works up on a pedestal, make them the standard. I had a similar discussion about Fanon vs Conrad. Things Fall Apart vs. Heart of Darkness. And while HoD wipes the floor with Things Fall Apart, we don't use Conrad effectively if we think of him as SO FVCKING GREAT. He's good. He's damn good. But he's also weird, and if I'm looking to adapt him to a movie or even just to talk about him, I want to come at him in a more nuanced way.

[dismalswamp]

Well said. The Trump accessing the
nuke codes is the most ignorant statement anyone could possibly make. The other candidate has already threatened Iran and would quite likely escalate the new cold
war Obama has started into an actual war. Tthe quite frankly ridiculous plan
to impose a no fly zone over Syria likely leading to the downing of a Russian aircraf. Trump is the most anti war President that the Republican party has had in living memory.
Do any of these idiots, especially in the UK, defending Clinton, actualy know what she did with regards to Libya, Benghazi etc? Do they know what happened with the FBI or what the DNC have been up to?
I am fine with political opinions but anyone arguing must be able to back it up.