Those controversial Turf Moor handball decisions in full.

[Ash]

Not the goal. We know that wasn't deliberate so the ref made the correct decision.

Were any of these deliberate?

The one that bounces of Keane's hand for a corner.
https://gfycat.com/AdmirableZigzagIbizanhound

The one Keane seems to pat down from Walcott.
https://gfycat.com/TemptingGlitteringLark

[TheCurly]

Not the goal. We know that wasn't deliberate so the ref made the correct decision.

https://gfycat.com/AdmirableZigzagIbizanhound

https://gfycat.com/TemptingGlitteringLark

First won - never in a million years
Second won - wtf??

[Pat Vegas]

Not the goal. We know that wasn't deliberate so the ref made the correct decision.

Were any of these deliberate?

The one that bounces of Keane's hand for a corner.
https://gfycat.com/AdmirableZigzagIbizanhound

The one Keane seems to pat down from Walcott.
https://gfycat.com/TemptingGlitteringLark

I think we were fortunate.
If it had happened down the other end of the pitch we'd have been going bonkers.

[Ash]

Second won - wtf??

:hehe: If the lad had had Big Pat's hands he would have caught it.

[TheCurly]

I think we were fortunate.
If it had happened down the other end of the pitch we'd have been going bonkers.

Disagree.The second one I would have been asking about our defender's rank stupidity

[Ash]

I think we were fortunate.
If it had happened down the other end of the pitch we'd have been going bonkers.

Oh yes, we were very fortunate that the ref applied the laws of the game for our goal. Whether that should be the law is another matter. Morally, the goal shouldn't have stood because Ox ****ed it up by kicking Kos's foot so that the ball is going out of the stadium until it hits Kos's hand. There should be something about gaining an advantage in there, to balance the intent bit and to go with the unnatural position bit.

[Mc Gooner]

We all know that if we win the league by 1 or 2 points this controversy will get brought up (even more than it already will)

I wonder whether the ref 'reflected' on the 2nd incident (WTFBTW?) and looked favourably on the Ox/Kos goal

Anyway, COYG and fück 'em :vsign:

[Mo Britain less Europe]

We all know that if we win the league by 1 or 2 points this controversy will get brought up (even more than it already will)

I wonder whether the ref 'reflected' on the 2nd incident (WTFBTW?) and looked favourably on the Ox/Kos goal

Anyway, COYG and fück 'em :vsign:

Do you mean like the two handballs that won Liverpool the FA Cup against us keep not being brought up?

[redgunamo]

Do you mean like the two handballs that won Liverpool the FA Cup against us keep not being brought up?

Right. There *is* a mild anti-Arsenal conspiracy in the media, I think, but we shouldn't mind it because it mostly actually works in our favour. Arguably, we get more coverage than we deserve.

[Alberto Balsam Rodriguez]

Not the goal. We know that wasn't deliberate so the ref made the correct decision.

Were any of these deliberate?

The one that bounces of Keane's hand for a corner.
https://gfycat.com/AdmirableZigzagIbizanhound

The one Keane seems to pat down from Walcott.
https://gfycat.com/TemptingGlitteringLark


Regardless of whether it should have been a handball or not..... we were fortunate the ref gave it our way. Most referees would have given that as a handball.

[Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult]

Oh yes, we were very fortunate that the ref applied the laws of the game for our goal. Whether that should be the law is another matter. Morally, the goal shouldn't have stood because Ox ****ed it up by kicking Kos's foot so that the ball is going out of the stadium until it hits Kos's hand. There should be something about gaining an advantage in there, to balance the intent bit and to go with the unnatural position bit.

But where do you draw the line with gaining an advantage?

In the first of those gifs, the ball would have gone straight to one of our players. In the 2nd, you can't really tell, but it may have been a pass or it may have been him turning past the defender. Either way, we'd have been in a good position.

I can see the argument for not allowing a goal to be scored with the hand/arm, but what if the accidental hand ball clearly stops an obvious goal scoring opportunity?