What is it with these lefties and the Jew-baiting?

[Burney]

One of the leaders of Momentum appears to have been criticising the use of the word Holocaust to define the death of 6 million Jews, claimed more Gypsies per head of population were killed; said she cannot find a definition of 'anti-semitic' she's happy with and criticised Holocaust Memorial Day for not recognising 'other Holocausts'.

Shami Chakrabarti's gonna need a bigger bucket of whitewash. :hehe:

[Sir C]

One of the leaders of Momentum appears to have been criticising the use of the word Holocaust to define the death of 6 million Jews, claimed more Gypsies per head of population were killed; said she cannot find a definition of 'anti-semitic' she's happy with and criticised Holocaust Memorial Day for not recognising 'other Holocausts'.

Shami Chakrabarti's gonna need a bigger bucket of whitewash. :hehe:

It must stem from when they got into bed with radical Islam, perhaps?

Of course, one might be tempted to say that it simply reinforces the point that National Socialism was a, erm, socialist doctrine. But I'd never do so.

[Burney]

It must stem from when they got into bed with radical Islam, perhaps?

Of course, one might be tempted to say that it simply reinforces the point that National Socialism was a, erm, socialist doctrine. But I'd never do so.

Isn't it as much to do with its foundational hatred of international capital and the Jewish role therein? I think the radical Islam thing was just a meeting of minds.

The funny thing is that they just cannot leave it alone. It's pathological.

[Sir C]

Isn't it as much to do with its foundational hatred of international capital and the Jewish role therein? I think the radical Islam thing was just a meeting of minds.

The funny thing is that they just cannot leave it alone. It's pathological.

Are you listening to the Dear Leader? :hehe:

This is some sub-fifth form stuff.

[Mo Britain less Europe]

I think it comes from that very left-wing thing (see Hitler, A.) of assuming there is some giant Zionist conspiracy.

Of course the Gypsies alos suffered a holocaust but that can be pointed out without getting into my holocaust is bigger than yours territory.

[Burney]

Are you listening to the Dear Leader? :hehe:

This is some sub-fifth form stuff.

Following it on a feed. Bankers..blah...renationalise railways...blah...living minimum wage...hang on, did he just say he wants to remove the council spending cap and let them borrow against their housing stock? Ermmm...borrow from whom exactly? Would it be...banks? who, if not paid back would presumably be entitled to repossess council properties? :hehe:

Did he also suggest that he possesses a mandate and Theresa May doesn't? Dear God, he actually doesn't appear to understand how our political system works at all! :rolleyes:

[Sir C]

Following it on a feed. Bankers..blah...renationalise railways...blah...living minimum wage...hang on, did he just say he wants to remove the council spending cap and let them borrow against their housing stock? Ermmm...borrow from whom exactly? Would it be...banks? who, if not paid back would presumably be entitled to repossess council properties? :hehe:

Did he also suggest that he possesses a mandate and Theresa May doesn't? Dear God, he actually doesn't appear to understand how our political system works at all! :rolleyes:

He's like a kid in the lower sixth with a poster of Che on his wall who's doing politics in General Studies and has got right into it, man.

[Sir C]

He's like a kid in the lower sixth with a poster of Che on his wall who's doing politics in General Studies and has got right into it, man.

Wait, I'm doing hima disservice, he's got a completely new radical strategy:

Tax and spend, tax and spend, tax and spend.

The man is an economic genius.

[World's End Stella]

Following it on a feed. Bankers..blah...renationalise railways...blah...living minimum wage...hang on, did he just say he wants to remove the council spending cap and let them borrow against their housing stock? Ermmm...borrow from whom exactly? Would it be...banks? who, if not paid back would presumably be entitled to repossess council properties? :hehe:


I had a rather robust exchange with his Royal Highness Ian of Harvey on Facebook about the banking crisis. No matter how hard I tried I could never get him to understand, or at least admit he understood, that the banks who lent irresponsibly were lending to people who were borrowing irresponsibly, and that those people were also to blame.

Nope, it was the banks. People, provided they are working class, are always the victims. I expect Jeremy and Ian would get along famously.

[redgunamo]

Yes, I always blame myself if my customers decide not to pay their bills or ignore their debts :homer:

[Pokster]

I had a rather robust exchange with his Royal Highness Ian of Harvey on Facebook about the banking crisis. No matter how hard I tried I could never get him to understand, or at least admit he understood, that the banks who lent irresponsibly were lending to people who were borrowing irresponsibly, and that those people were also to blame.

Nope, it was the banks. People, provided they are working class, are always the victims. I expect Jeremy and Ian would get along famously.

The banks are supposed to do checks so they don't lend to people who are borrowing irresponsibly... that is why it has all been tightened up as they weren't doing the checks

[World's End Stella]

The banks are supposed to do checks so they don't lend to people who are borrowing irresponsibly... that is why it has all been tightened up as they weren't doing the checks

Yes, that's true, but that doesn't change the fact that people who borrow irresponsibly are part of the problem as well.

[Burney]

I had a rather robust exchange with his Royal Highness Ian of Harvey on Facebook about the banking crisis. No matter how hard I tried I could never get him to understand, or at least admit he understood, that the banks who lent irresponsibly were lending to people who were borrowing irresponsibly, and that those people were also to blame.

Nope, it was the banks. People, provided they are working class, are always the victims. I expect Jeremy and Ian would get along famously.

Well if socialists believed in individual responsibility, they wouldn't be socialists, would they? The fact that Mr Harvey is a Corbynista can hardly surprise anyone, can it? It's as though Labour had shaped the party perfectly to fit him.

[Burney]

Wait, I'm doing hima disservice, he's got a completely new radical strategy:

Tax and spend, tax and spend, tax and spend.

The man is an economic genius.

This National Investment Bank appears to be the new name for the Magic Money Tree.

A bank run by socialists - can you imagine? :hehe:

[Pokster]

Yes, that's true, but that doesn't change the fact that people who borrow irresponsibly are part of the problem as well.

You can only borrow if people/banks are willing to lend it to you... if they lend to people who (if they had done their checks) will struggle to repay the loan, then it can't be a shock when those people default

[Luis Anaconda]

Well if socialists believed in individual responsibility, they wouldn't be socialists, would they? The fact that Mr Harvey is a Corbynista can hardly surprise anyone, can it? It's as though Labour had shaped the party perfectly to fit him.

I miss Peter

[redgunamo]

One of the leaders of Momentum appears to have been criticising the use of the word Holocaust to define the death of 6 million Jews, claimed more Gypsies per head of population were killed; said she cannot find a definition of 'anti-semitic' she's happy with and criticised Holocaust Memorial Day for not recognising 'other Holocausts'.

Shami Chakrabarti's gonna need a bigger bucket of whitewash. :hehe:

Perhaps they want to appear more European? My in-laws talk that way all the time.

[redgunamo]

You can only borrow if people/banks are willing to lend it to you... if they lend to people who (if they had done their checks) will struggle to repay the loan, then it can't be a shock when those people default

True, but banking is a business not a social service.

[Pokster]

True, but banking is a business not a social service.

So lending to a bad risk customer without doing the checks is a bad business idea.....

[redgunamo]

So lending to a bad risk customer without doing the checks is a bad business idea.....

If they don't pay up, then yes. Obviously. However, if even feckless ********s like me always make sure to pay their bills on time and in full, it's clear a certain amount of risk is more than worth it. Otherwise it's probably the *wrong* business, rather than merely bad business.

[Burney]

I miss Peter

Me too. He hates Corbyn and his ilk far more than I ever could.

[World's End Stella]

Me too. He hates Corbyn and his ilk far more than I ever could.

If I recall correctly, that Jorge chap hated Blair because he wasn't left wing enough :hehe:

He must be creaming himself over what Corbyn is doing to Labour. Mind you, so am I.

[Burney]

If I recall correctly, that Jorge chap hated Blair because he wasn't left wing enough :hehe:

He must be creaming himself over what Corbyn is doing to Labour. Mind you, so am I.

Last time I checked he was fully on board with Jez, yes. Believed there was a Mainstream Media conspiracy against him - as if anyone would bother :hehe:

[Ash]

If I recall correctly, that Jorge chap hated Blair because he wasn't left wing enough :hehe:


Blair was a Tory who was admired by Margaret herself. Of course anyone on the left would consider him not left wing enough. :weneedadecentrolleyessmiley:

[Burney]

Blair was a Tory who was admired by Margaret herself. Of course anyone on the left would consider him not left wing enough. :weneedadecentrolleyessmiley:

Don't think she ever said she admired him. She said he was her greatest achievement in the sense that she had re-structured the political landscape to such an extent that she had forced the Labour Party to swing right if it ever wanted to get elected again. Not quite the same.