Speaking of cheating - as MotD2 showed last night, Leicester would never have got

[Luis Anaconda]

near winning the title if the authorities had cut down on grappling at set-pieces a year earlier. And poor old Stoke - apparently not being able to constantly cheat is costing them points

[Sir C]

near winning the title if the authorities had cut down on grappling at set-pieces a year earlier. And poor old Stoke - apparently not being able to constantly cheat is costing them points

It's quite a relief that Leicester's win last year is being confirmed as a blip, a freak event, an oddity, a one off. I hate gallant underdogs.

In an ideal world, the relegation places would be taken by Stoke, West Ham and Leicester.

[redgunamo]

It's quite a relief that Leicester's win last year is being confirmed as a blip, a freak event, an oddity, a one off. I hate gallant underdogs.

In an ideal world, the relegation places would be taken by Stoke, West Ham and Leicester.

Why don't you like underdogs?

[Burney]

It's quite a relief that Leicester's win last year is being confirmed as a blip, a freak event, an oddity, a one off. I hate gallant underdogs.

In an ideal world, the relegation places would be taken by Stoke, West Ham and Leicester.

Yes, I would dearly love to see West Ham and their massive, taxpayer-funded stadium languishing in the lower leagues.

[Sir C]

Why don't you like underdogs?

Well, the reason underdogs are underdogs is because they're ****, but because they have everyone's sympathy, they are enabled to eallow in their ****ness and try to make up for it by kicking better teams.

Fúck 'em, don't respect them for being ****, respect them when they're good.

[Burney]

Well, the reason underdogs are underdogs is because they're ****, but because they have everyone's sympathy, they are enabled to eallow in their ****ness and try to make up for it by kicking better teams.

Fúck 'em, don't respect them for being ****, respect them when they're good.

:nod: The instinct that leads to a fondness for underdogs is exactly the same instinct that leads to communism. FACT.

[Mo Britain less Europe]

Looks like we have a few Manu fans in the making here. Love Mourinho and hate underdogs :sherlock:

[redgunamo]

Well, the reason underdogs are underdogs is because they're ****, but because they have everyone's sympathy, they are enabled to eallow in their ****ness and try to make up for it by kicking better teams.

Fúck 'em, don't respect them for being ****, respect them when they're good.

Better than haughty, hubristic arrogance though, ain't it?

[Sir C]

Better than haughty, hubristic arrogance though, ain't it?

Haughtiness and arrogance have their place, if they simply mean an acknowledgement of how good one is.

[redgunamo]

Haughtiness and arrogance have their place, if they simply mean an acknowledgement of how good one is.

A recognition that one must fight for every ball because one is not good enough not to also has its place, imo.

[redgunamo]

Well, the reason underdogs are underdogs is because they're ****, but because they have everyone's sympathy, they are enabled to eallow in their ****ness and try to make up for it by kicking better teams.

Fúck 'em, don't respect them for being ****, respect them when they're good.

When Ronaldo had been at Real Madrid awhile, he commented that he was delighted with Spanish football because even the small teams tried to play, they didn't just try and kick you, as he felt was the case in England.

I remember thinking, yeah, for all the good it does them.

[Mo Britain less Europe]

It's also simply not true. They kick you in different ways that's all. And the big two are ultra-protected by the referees.

I'd have liked to see him play the infamous Granada team of the seventies.

[redgunamo]

Real Madrid still won half-a-dozen league titles in the Seventies. That's the point :shrug:

[Luis Anaconda]

It's also simply not true. They kick you in different ways that's all. And the big two are ultra-protected by the referees.

I'd have liked to see him play the infamous Granada team of the seventies.
Coronation Street was a lot more gritty in those days

[Mo Britain less Europe]

Of course they did. With the referees on board they couldn't fail to do so.

Have a look at this. The end of Amancio's career.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0TvKOxhDCM

[redgunamo]

Of course they did. With the referees on board they couldn't fail to do so.

Have a look at this. The end of Amancio's career.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0TvKOxhDCM

La Liga needs an awful lot more and better of that sort of thing, imo. Last time I checked Real and Barca had about fifty titles between them.

[Mo Britain less Europe]

Must be more than that? Atletico Madrid have a handful, Bilbao 3 or 4, Real Sociedad, Depor and Valencia probably five between them and in the early days Betis won a couple. Madrid and Barcelona have won all the others.

[Luis Anaconda]

Must be more than that? Atletico Madrid have a handful, Bilbao 3 or 4, Real Sociedad, Depor and Valencia probably five between them and in the early days Betis won a couple. Madrid and Barcelona have won all the others. 56 in fact - out of 85

R Madrid 32
Barca 24
A Madrid 10

Bilbao actually have 8! And Valencia 6

[Ash]

Of course they did. With the referees on board they couldn't fail to do so.


Did you see the story about Anderlecht bribing the Spanish ref against Forest in 1984? UEFA knew about it for several years without doing anything about it, and Anderlecht's stadium is still named after the man who did it.

Belgians.

[Mo Britain less Europe]

Here's the lot:


Club Winners Runners-up
Real Madrid 32 23
Barcelona 24 24
Atlético Madrid 10 8
Athletic Bilbao 8 7
Valencia 6 6
Real Sociedad 2 3
Deportivo La Coruña 1 5
Sevilla 1 4
Real Betis 1 0

[redgunamo]

56 in fact - out of 85

R Madrid 32
Barca 24
A Madrid 10

Bilbao actually have 8! And Valencia 6

FC Nürnberg have the second most Bundesliga titles, last one in '68 and

I'll never get tired of reading that stat.


Foreigners, you see. Good at football, no idea about fair play.

[Luis Anaconda]

Did you see the story about Anderlecht bribing the Spanish ref against Forest in 1984? UEFA knew about it for several years without doing anything about it, and Anderlecht's stadium is still named after the man who did it.

Belgians.
Programme about it on tonight isn't it. The ref also died in mysterious circumstances *. The bit about the stadium is ludicrous





*well in a car crash

[Mo Britain less Europe]

And then only to lose the final against the scummers. What a waste. Forest would have wiped the floor with them.

[Pokster]

Did you see the story about Anderlecht bribing the Spanish ref against Forest in 1984? UEFA knew about it for several years without doing anything about it, and Anderlecht's stadium is still named after the man who did it.

Belgians.

The worse part of that is Spurs beat them in the final... they would more than likely have lost to Forest if it wasn't for that