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Monty92
09-20-2016, 09:41 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/20/donald-trump-jnr-compares-refugees-poisoned-skittles-twitter-reacted

given that it is clearly making the point that not all foreign people are bad, but some of them are?

I can understand it being considered in bad taste or simplistic, but racist? How is it racist?

Burney
09-20-2016, 09:43 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/20/donald-trump-jnr-compares-refugees-poisoned-skittles-twitter-reacted

given that it is clearly making the point that not all foreign people are bad, but some of them are?

I can understand it being considered in bad taste or simplistic, but racist? How is it racist?

It's racist because Trump says it. Same as saying a bomb was a bomb was racist and alarmist because it was him saying it.

This is the logic.

Sir C
09-20-2016, 09:45 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/20/donald-trump-jnr-compares-refugees-poisoned-skittles-twitter-reacted

given that it is clearly making the point that not all foreign people are bad, but some of them are?

I can understand it being considered in bad taste or simplistic, but racist? How is it racist?

Yes, I thought just that. It's a somewhat inelegant analogy, but it doesn't seem an unreasonable view.

SWv2
09-20-2016, 10:04 AM
Simply an attempt to dis-credit anything he does now as the supreme powers behind the scenes in the USA are petrified of him actually winning, a scenario that was always laughed at in the beginning as nobody ever foresaw him getting this far.

I kind of like the idea of President Donald, not from any political viewpoint but simply because he is a bit mad.

Sir C
09-20-2016, 10:09 AM
Simply an attempt to dis-credit anything he does now as the supreme powers behind the scenes in the USA are petrified of him actually winning, a scenario that was always laughed at in the beginning as nobody ever foresaw him getting this far.

I kind of like the idea of President Donald, not from any political viewpoint but simply because he is a bit mad.

Yes, I sort of feel the same way, but a tiny part of me is concerned that he is actually, literally, really, medically, mad. Like, insane, mental, bonkers, doollaly. Bat**** crazy. I know that his staff and the civil service will probably prevent him doing anything too whacky, but he'd definitely be unpredicatable. And he seems keen on Putin :-(

Burney
09-20-2016, 10:12 AM
Simply an attempt to dis-credit anything he does now as the supreme powers behind the scenes in the USA are petrified of him actually winning, a scenario that was always laughed at in the beginning as nobody ever foresaw him getting this far.

I kind of like the idea of President Donald, not from any political viewpoint but simply because he is a bit mad.

I'm now at the stage where I would actually love it if he won because the array of smug 'liberal' cùnts arrayed against him is far more offensive to me than anything he could possibly do or say. The idea of their distress if he won is simply too delicious not to desire it.

Either way, the US is in trouble. If he wins, you have the whole of establishment America going into pant-wetting meltdown, but if he loses, you've got 100 million-odd pissed off, heavily-armed white folks who'll be convinced it's a fix.

Fun and games.

Pat Vegas
09-20-2016, 10:17 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/20/donald-trump-jnr-compares-refugees-poisoned-skittles-twitter-reacted

given that it is clearly making the point that not all foreign people are bad, but some of them are?

I can understand it being considered in bad taste or simplistic, but racist? How is it racist?

I suppose the bit they don't like is that by saying there is a few bad, don't let any in.

SWv2
09-20-2016, 10:20 AM
Yes, I sort of feel the same way, but a tiny part of me is concerned that he is actually, literally, really, medically, mad. Like, insane, mental, bonkers, doollaly. Bat**** crazy. I know that his staff and the civil service will probably prevent him doing anything too whacky, but he'd definitely be unpredicatable. And he seems keen on Putin :-(

My exposure to and experience of US politics* suggests to me that he may not really be able to do a lot as there are various houses and Congress etc. where bills must ultimately be passed before becoming law.

What may be funny is when he talks as there is very little the boys in the background can do when he lets loose on whatever has annoyed him that day, from Mexicans to the female species to Skittles. While one does not agree with what he says one can enjoy the madness which he creates.

A wall on the Mexican border which they will pay for themselves, good man.

*House of Cards

Burney
09-20-2016, 10:23 AM
I suppose the bit they don't like is that by saying there is a few bad, don't let any in.

Hardly an unreasonable argument, is it, though? Assuming someone thinks 'none' isn't the right answer, just how many of your citizens' deaths should be considered an acceptable price to pay for accommodating refugees from a religious and ethnic background that demonstrably produces a disproportionate amount of international terrorism?

Burney
09-20-2016, 10:25 AM
My exposure to and experience of US politics* suggests to me that he may not really be able to do a lot as there are various houses and Congress etc. where bills must ultimately be passed before becoming law.

What may be funny is when he talks as there is very little the boys in the background can do when he lets loose on whatever has annoyed him that day, from Mexicans to the female species to Skittles. While one does not agree with what he says one can enjoy the madness which he creates.

A wall on the Mexican border which they will pay for themselves, good man.

*House of Cards

The US President has very little hard domestic power, but has pretty much a free hand when it comes to foreign policy. Barring signing treaties or declaring war, he doesn't need Congress's approval for any overseas adventures.

Sir C
09-20-2016, 10:25 AM
My exposure to and experience of US politics* suggests to me that he may not really be able to do a lot as there are various houses and Congress etc. where bills must ultimately be passed before becoming law.

What may be funny is when he talks as there is very little the boys in the background can do when he lets loose on whatever has annoyed him that day, from Mexicans to the female species to Skittles. While one does not agree with what he says one can enjoy the madness which he creates.

A wall on the Mexican border which they will pay for themselves, good man.

*House of Cards

Yes, one supposes that he'll be kept under control, but what if he visits UK and calls Her Majesty a ****?

We'll have to invade the fúckers.

Anyway, after he's shut the Mexicans out he might start on the Irish.

Burney
09-20-2016, 10:27 AM
Yes, one supposes that he'll be kept under control, but what if he visits UK and calls Her Majesty a ****?

We'll have to invade the fúckers.

Anyway, after he's shut the Mexicans out he might start on the Irish.

He wouldn't do a thing like that. Not our Donald.

Actually, one of the things his opponents don't seem to grasp is that, far from wanting to blow up the world, he's actually an old-fashioned US isolationist. In contrast to Hillary, he actually wants to reduce, not increase the US's overseas involvement.

You'd have thought the likes of j would be right behind that, but apparently not. :shrug:

SWv2
09-20-2016, 10:35 AM
Yes, one supposes that he'll be kept under control, but what if he visits UK and calls Her Majesty a ****?

We'll have to invade the fúckers.

Anyway, after he's shut the Mexicans out he might start on the Irish.

He loves us. He opened a hotel a few years ago in Doonbeg, Co Clare and when he arrived we quite literally rolled out a red carpet for him at Shannon Airport, sent down a Government Minister to welcome and shake his hand etc.

I could be wrong but I think we even laid on a few oul Irish dancers on the airport tarmac also.

Burney
09-20-2016, 10:38 AM
He loves us. He opened a hotel a few years ago in Doonbeg, Co Clare and when he arrived we quite literally rolled out a red carpet for him at Shannon Airport, sent down a Government Minister to welcome and shake his hand etc.

I could be wrong but I think we even laid on a few oul Irish dancers on the airport tarmac also.

To be fair, though, Ireland will give the red carpet treatment to pretty much anyone who throws a few quid their way. At least when the UK abases itself in such fashion, it's for proper amounts of cash (China and Saudi spring to mind).

George Morrell's Tache
09-20-2016, 11:19 AM
Although quite a lot can be achieved with executive orders. The use of these to bypass Congress, increased considerably under Bush and Obama.

Tony C
09-20-2016, 11:28 AM
should've pulled out a bag of minstrels and waved two fingers at the BLM lot imo :glazer:

World's End Stella
09-20-2016, 12:29 PM
I'm now at the stage where I would actually love it if he won because the array of smug 'liberal' cùnts arrayed against him is far more offensive to me than anything he could possibly do or say. The idea of their distress if he won is simply too delicious not to desire it.

Either way, the US is in trouble. If he wins, you have the whole of establishment America going into pant-wetting meltdown, but if he loses, you've got 100 million-odd pissed off, heavily-armed white folks who'll be convinced it's a fix.

Fun and games.

If he wins the Yanks are all going to rush north to Canada, Burney.

And just as I was thinking of moving back at some point :-(

Alberto Balsam Rodriguez
09-20-2016, 07:22 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/20/donald-trump-jnr-compares-refugees-poisoned-skittles-twitter-reacted

given that it is clearly making the point that not all foreign people are bad, but some of them are?

I can understand it being considered in bad taste or simplistic, but racist? How is it racist?

Racist, probably not however, it is symptomatic of how out of touch tune trump campaign and the USA, in general, are with the rest of the world

Or..... Is that :noah: ?