Hmm. People seem strangely keen to push the 'mental illness' angle on this stabbing

[Burney]

I wonder if it's because the mentalist in question also just happens to be a muslim, too? :sherlock:

[Rich]

I wonder if it's because the mentalist in question also just happens to be a muslim, too? :sherlock:

I thought exactly the same. Bloody leftie, apologist wimps.

That being said, I don't actually know if he's an Allan. Does he have sandy skin?

[Pokster]

I wonder if it's because the mentalist in question also just happens to be a muslim, too? :sherlock:

Is he a Muslim? As far as I'm aware what religion he is or exactly where he was from hasn't been released yet

[Monty92]

I wonder if it's because the mentalist in question also just happens to be a muslim, too? :sherlock:

Have you seen this? It is quite, quite remarkable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HYLiMaj9Ak

It now actually seems we might be at a point where ISIS ramp up their terror attacks out of their frustration with the PC left's denial that their hatred for us derives from their religion.

[Mo Britain less Europe]

On my patch. I was watching Bridge of Spies whilst all the excitement happened. Good film.

[Monty92]

Is he a Muslim? As far as I'm aware what religion he is or exactly where he was from hasn't been released yet

We don't know. I think Berni's point was that the authorities have made frequent attempts to conceal the religious identity of many Islamic terrorists and therefore it would not be surprising if they were doing so on this occasion, as well.

[Monty92]

On my patch. I was watching Bridge of Spies whilst all the excitement happened. Good film.

Here is a link to the actual magazine, containing the relevant article "Why we hate you"

http://www.clarionproject.org/factsheets-files/islamic-state-magazine-dabiq-fifteen-breaking-the-cross.pdf

[Pokster]

We don't know. I think Berni's point was that the authorities have made frequent attempts to conceal the religious identity of many Islamic terrorists and therefore it would not be surprising if they were doing so on this occasion, as well.



"Early indications suggest that mental health is a significant factor in this case and that is one major line of inquiry.

"But of course at this stage we should keep an open mind regarding motive and, consequently, terrorism as a motivation remains but one line of inquiry for us to explore," he said.

Seems like they aren't trying to conceal anything

[Mo Britain less Europe]

I wonder if it's because the mentalist in question also just happens to be a muslim, too? :sherlock:

Actually what they are doing is what they frequnelty did, and do, with murder. The assumption is normal humans don't go about killing other humans. If you do you are abnormal and since the concept of evl doesn't exist in our secular society it follows you must be mad. Conveniently the pronouncements are vague enough so eventually you are "cured" and released and hopefully don't reoffend. May work with the odd lucre motivated criminal, doesn't work with the religious murderer.

[Pat Vegas]

I wonder if it's because the mentalist in question also just happens to be a muslim, too? :sherlock:

What is really beginning to annoy me is how the BBC and other organisations (but especially the BBC) are always pushing this side of things.

But what do they really expect? Day after day we are fed news stories of 'So Called' Islamic State. We see them doing backflips, Even the way the BBC reporters talk annoys me their tone of voice.

Then you have images of the new Metropolitan police storm trooper division blasted all over the papers. You have experts saying its not 'if' it's when.

Then when something happens they are surprised that people may jump to conclusions :shrug:

I will start calling them BBC So called News.

[Burney]

Here is a link to the actual magazine, containing the relevant article "Why we hate you"

http://www.clarionproject.org/factsheets-files/islamic-state-magazine-dabiq-fifteen-breaking-the-cross.pdf

Apologists who wibble on about Iraq need to be made to write this passage out 1,000 times


What’s important to understand here is that although some might argue that your foreign policies
are the extent of what drives our hatred, this particular reason for hating you is secondary, hence the33
reason we addressed it at the end of the above list. The
fact is, even if you were to stop bombing us, imprisoning us, torturing us, vilifying us, and usurping our lands, we would continue to hate you because our primary reason for hating you will not cease to exist until you embrace Islam. Even if you were to pay jizyah and live under the authority of Islam in humiliation, we would continue to hate you. No doubt, we would stop fighting you then as we would stop fighting any disbelievers who enter into a covenant with us, but we
would not stop hating you.

[Burney]

What is really beginning to annoy me is how the BBC and other organisations (but especially the BBC) are always pushing this side of things.

But what do they really expect? Day after day we are fed news stories of 'So Called' Islamic State. We see them doing backflips, Even the way the BBC reporters talk annoys me their tone of voice.

Then you have images of the new Metropolitan police storm trooper division blasted all over the papers. You have experts saying its not 'if' it's when.

Then when something happens they are surprised that people may jump to conclusions :shrug:

Yes. Someone on twitter posted a pic of the Met squad all tooled up with the line 'Reassuring to see the Met's new mental health division are ready for action' :hehe:

[Pat Vegas]

"Early indications suggest that mental health is a significant factor in this case and that is one major line of inquiry.

"But of course at this stage we should keep an open mind regarding motive and, consequently, terrorism as a motivation remains but one line of inquiry for us to explore," he said.

Seems like they aren't trying to conceal anything

But at the same time the report it as the top story and breaking news! Stabbings happen everyday in London and are not reported in the same way.

[Burney]

"Early indications suggest that mental health is a significant factor in this case and that is one major line of inquiry.

"But of course at this stage we should keep an open mind regarding motive and, consequently, terrorism as a motivation remains but one line of inquiry for us to explore," he said.

Seems like they aren't trying to conceal anything

If you're not trying to conceal anything, why mention the mental illness aspect at all?

[Pat Vegas]

Yes. Someone on twitter posted a pic of the Met squad all tooled up with the line 'Reassuring to see the Met's new mental health division are ready for action' :hehe:

:hehe: but if he is turns out to be a nutter. Will the mental health organisation come out and say this has nothing to do with mental illness.

[Pokster]

If you're not trying to conceal anything, why mention the mental illness aspect at all?

Perhaps the mental illness is a known condition with this bloke???? Is motiveless stabbing/murder in the street an everyday occurance?

Perhaps it was mentioned just to stop people jumping to conclussions???

[Pat Vegas]

Perhaps the mental illness is a known condition with this bloke???? Is motiveless stabbing/murder in the street an everyday occurance?

Perhaps it was mentioned just to stop people jumping to conclussions???

I'm afraid as I mention before the BBC and other news organisations are highly responsible for people jumping to conclusions. I also believe they played a part in the Brexit outcome.

If they want to stop it don't report it as 'BREAKING NEWS' there is an incident in Russell square. Wait for some more facts first.

[Burney]

Perhaps the mental illness is a known condition with this bloke???? Is motiveless stabbing/murder in the street an everyday occurance?

Perhaps it was mentioned just to stop people jumping to conclussions???

If that were the case, they'd have to know who he is and if they know who he is, why would they not release his name or pics of him? Could it be by any chance because of his ethnicity the fact that he has a muslim name?

No, I think they're pushing the mental illness thing in order to stop people jumping to exactly the correct conclusions.

[Mo Britain less Europe]

If there were anyone with balls left in this country we'd go to the south London hospital where the guy is being kept, take him out and hang him.

[Pokster]

If there were anyone with balls left in this country we'd go to the south London hospital where the guy is being kept, take him out and hang him.

Well since he isn't in hospital GLWTP imo

[Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult]

What is really beginning to annoy me is how the BBC and other organisations (but especially the BBC) are always pushing this side of things.

It's not just them, Pat. It's not a BBC conspiracy. The Times is doing exactly the same thing and people are making the same comments as you underneath. Maybe the govt have demanded that the media cover these things in this manner?

[Alberto Balsam Rodriguez]

Is he a Muslim? As far as I'm aware what religion he is or exactly where he was from hasn't been released yet

No but it seems easier to assume he is a muslimist and work from there

[Ash]

No but it seems easier to assume he is a muslimist and work from there

I haven't seen a name published. Given that the mass murdering crazies, whether done for supposed religious reasons or not, probably want their name to become (in)famous, it makes some sense to not publicise the name.

[Pat Vegas]

I haven't seen a name published. Given that the mass murdering crazies, whether done for supposed religious reasons or not, probably want their name to become (in)famous, it makes some sense to not publicise the name.

Zakaria Bulhan

[Burney]

I haven't seen a name published. Given that the mass murdering crazies, whether done for supposed religious reasons or not, probably want their name to become (in)famous, it makes some sense to not publicise the name.

No, the name has been published. He's called Zakaria Bulhan. Here's the chubby-faced white fella.

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Oh, and this 'Norwegian national' has lived here since he was 5. I'm prepared to guess he doesn't speak a word of Norwegian.

[Pat Vegas]

No, the name has been published. He's called Zakaria Bulhan. Here's the chubby-faced white fella.

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Oh, and this 'Norwegian national' has lived here since he was 5. I'm prepared to guess he doesn't speak a word of Norwegian.

That's where you are wrong Burney. He was screaming 'Gud er stor' 'Gud er stor' as he was stabbing people.

[Ash]

Zakaria Bulhan

Perhaps I needed to look a bit deeper than the BBC's most visible story.

[Pat Vegas]

Perhaps I needed to look a bit deeper than the BBC's most visible story.

It's strangely not showing at all on the BBC home page.