As we all suspected, Vardy not coming..

[7sisters]

I'm not sure how to take this one.
I certainly never thought I'd see the day when a player from Lester blew out the opportunity to join a club like Arsenal.
The real kick in the bollox would be for him to now go somewhere else.
The only other example would probably be Le Tissier staying put at Southampton.

Onwards..

[eastgermanautos]

Well, I think you left out the fact that they won the Prem, and that Ranieri is a badass.

[redgunamo]

I'm not sure how to take this one.
I certainly never thought I'd see the day when a player from Lester blew out the opportunity to join a club like Arsenal.
The real kick in the bollox would be for him to now go somewhere else.
The only other example would probably be Le Tissier staying put at Southampton.

Onwards..

Well, he's not coming before the end of England's Euros, at any rate.

Wenger knows **** all, but He may've got that right.

Patience.

[7sisters]

Well, I think you left out the fact that they won the Prem, and that Ranieri is a badass.

Maybe he's also not too enamoured to sign for the specialist in failure :-(
I read today the old dinosaurs on the board were considering offering him a new two year extension..
You couldn't make it up.

[7sisters]

Well, he's not coming before the end of England's Euros, at any rate.

Wenger knows **** all, but He may've got that right.

Patience.

Reg.. dear Reg... If he was coming, he'd have leapt at it straight from the off.. I mean, what's seriously to consider here..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36571877

[redgunamo]

Reg.. dear Reg... If he was coming, he'd have leapt at it straight from the off.. I mean, what's seriously to consider here..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36571877

I'd put it the other way about; if he was staying, he'd have said so from the off.

[redgunamo]

Maybe he's also not too enamoured to sign for the specialist in failure :-(
I read today the old dinosaurs on the board were considering offering him a new two year extension..
You couldn't make it up.

It makes sense to have everyone believe that, imo. Especially if we want to make loads of mahooosive signings :-|

[ITSUPFORGRABSNOW]

Maybe he's also not too enamoured to sign for the specialist in failure :-(
I read today the old dinosaurs on the board were considering offering him a new two year extension..
You couldn't make it up.

Quoting that **** Mourinho, just **** off, Jesus FFS

[Alberto Balsam Rodriguez]

I'm not sure how to take this one.
I certainly never thought I'd see the day when a player from Lester blew out the opportunity to join a club like Arsenal.
The real kick in the bollox would be for him to now go somewhere else.
The only other example would probably be Le Tissier staying put at Southampton.

Onwards..


Hopefully, Arsenal are looking at other options regardless of whether Vardy is undecided on his move or not.

The one thing this might do is upset Wenger's summer plans. It is now clear to other clubs that we are in the market for a striker and this will make it harder for us to get our preferred options. It will probably end up with us having to spend more than we would have done, if Vardy choses to stay at Leicester. Don't forget, Wenger has been known to shy away from buying even if it does leave us short.

Even if he does join, I'm yet to be convinced that Vardy would be a success at Arsenal. Last season could have been a one off and he may have blown his load. Alternatively, he could have a couple of good seasons in him. One thing that is difficult to argue with, he doesn't appear suited to the way Arsenal play. This means that he either has to workout how to integrate better or, Arsenal need to change the way they play to accommodate him.

[redgunamo]

Hopefully, Arsenal are looking at other options regardless of whether Vardy is undecided on his move or not.

The one thing this might do is upset Wenger's summer plans. It is now clear to other clubs that we are in the market for a striker and this will make it harder for us to get our preferred options. It will probably end up with us having to spend more than we would have done, if Vardy choses to stay at Leicester. Don't forget, Wenger has been known to shy away from buying even if it does leave us short.

Even if he does join, I'm yet to be convinced that Vardy would be a success at Arsenal. Last season could have been a one off and he may have blown his load. Alternatively, he could have a couple of good seasons in him. One thing that is difficult to argue with, he doesn't appear suited to the way Arsenal play. This means that he either has to workout how to integrate better or, Arsenal need to change the way they play to accommodate him.

If I may respectfully disagree, Vardy would be perfect for us, imo.

Not saying he's the best striker in the world or anything but goals, pace and Yorkshire grit, movement and grunt and pace and touch and pace and goals; what's not to like :shrug:

[Alberto Balsam Rodriguez]

If I may respectfully disagree, Vardy would be perfect for us, imo.

Not saying he's the best striker in the world or anything but goals, pace and Yorkshire grit, movement and grunt and pace and touch and pace and goals; what's not to like :shrug:


You and I are going to have to agree to disagree on one or two things, red.

Grunt, yes
Pace, yes
Goals, so far
Movement, yes
Touch, inconsistent
Holds the ball up, unknown

[redgunamo]

You and I are going to have to agree to disagree on one or two things, red.

Grunt, yes
Pace, yes
Goals, so far
Movement, yes
Touch, inconsistent
Holds the ball up, unknown

If he signs for us, we'll all have to give him, and Wenger, the benefit of any doubt.

[Just Trent]

The summer taking a familiar turn. Only two questions remain.
1. What will be Wenger's excuse after transfer deadline day?
2. Where on earth will he take off to on transfer deadline day?

[redgunamo]

The summer taking a familiar turn. Only two questions remain.
1. What will be Wenger's excuse after transfer deadline day?
2. Where on earth will he take off to on transfer deadline day?

In fairness, we did get Xhaka early enough. For a decent chunk of money too.

[The Jorge]

In fairness, we did get Xhaka early enough. For a decent chunk of money too.

Yeah, I mean we have one, in many ways harder, part of the jigsaw sorted. Vardy not coming isnt the end of the world. Certainly not this early on in the summer. It wouldve solved a problem, and saved us a few quid to boot, but we'll have to just use a bigger war chest.

WAR CHEST!

[redgunamo]

Premier League winning strikers have proved easier for us to sell, rather than buy, for quite some time now :shrug:


Yeah, I mean we have one, in many ways harder, part of the jigsaw sorted. Vardy not coming isnt the end of the world. Certainly not this early on in the summer. It wouldve solved a problem, and saved us a few quid to boot, but we'll have to just use a bigger war chest.

WAR CHEST!

[Alberto Balsam Rodriguez]

If he signs for us, we'll all have to give him, and Wenger, the benefit of any doubt.

Of course we will.

[The Jorge]

Premier League winning strikers have proved easier for us to sell, rather than buy, for quite some time now :shrug:

He represented a bargain, not necessarily a striker that would win us the PL. Past performance is not an indicator of future performance and all that.

Relax, it's Arsene's last season. He's got the bit between his teeth this summer.

[redgunamo]

There *is* no striker who would necessarily win us us the PL, is there, especially if we're not allowed look at past performances :shrug:


He represented a bargain, not necessarily a striker that would win us the PL. Past performance is not an indicator of future performance and all that.

Relax, it's Arsene's last season. He's got the bit between his teeth this summer.

[Luis Anaconda]

The summer taking a familiar turn. Only two questions remain.
1. What will be Wenger's excuse after transfer deadline day?
2. Where on earth will he take off to on transfer deadline day?

We got one of our major targets very quickly and had a bid accepted for another one - can't legislate for his weird option to remain
We're hardly having a disastrous time - window isn't even open yet ffs

[SWv2]

Can I simply say that in respect of the proposed decision of Vardy to not come to Arsenal that I am not in the slightest bit bothered.

That is not a petulant ‘not bothered’ because he had the nerve to turn us down, simply that I am not bothered.

[PSRB]

I'd put it the other way about; if he was staying, he'd have said so from the off.

:nod: Also, the quotes coming from AW sound to me like they're putting him under pressure to hurry up and make a decision

[Luis Anaconda]

Can I simply say that in respect of the proposed decision of Vardy to not come to Arsenal that I am not in the slightest bit bothered.

That is not a petulant ‘not bothered’ because he had the nerve to turn us down, simply that I am not bothered.
I feel the same way - wouldn't have minded him coming, quite happy we can look elsewhere

[7sisters]

:nod: Also, the quotes coming from AW sound to me like they're putting him under pressure to hurry up and make a decision

Wenger's right in this situation. I wouldn't be too happy if we were allowing ourselves to be dicked around by him.
Other fish to fry and all that..

[SWv2]

I feel the same way - wouldn't have minded him coming, quite happy we can look elsewhere

I wouldn’t 100% rule it out as being dead just yet, Wenger’s comment is very much in line with how he has always spoken on transfers.

In the summer when every man and child knew that players like Nasri and Fabregas would leave he was always adamant that he “expected” players to stay, the basis of which I assume is that they were under contract. Had he in any way deviated from such a statement he would have stoked the media into an even bigger story.

I do think the boy Vardy has been a bit of a huge **** about the whole thing. Stay/leave, just come clean but then be up front with the media that he will not speak on the topic again until the Euros are over, so next weekend.

More time to think about it, do **** off.

My caveat on the whole issue is that having now admitted that we know there is a need to address the forward area that we 100% now do so. Previous summers have seen us enter the water and then run back out again. By looking at Vardy he has told the world that he is not completely happy with Giroud as his primary option, to not now have plan B options to act on would be unacceptable.

[Pokster]

My caveat on the whole issue is that having now admitted that we know there is a need to address the forward area that we 100% now do so. Previous summers have seen us enter the water and then run back out again. By looking at Vardy he has told the world that he is not completely happy with Giroud as his primary option, to not now have plan B options to act on would be unacceptable.[/QUOTE]

I agree, i would say with 99% probability that we will sign a striker this summer with the aim that he will be no.1 choice at the start of the season.

[redgunamo]

My caveat on the whole issue is that having now admitted that we know there is a need to address the forward area that we 100% now do so. Previous summers have seen us enter the water and then run back out again. By looking at Vardy he has told the world that he is not completely happy with Giroud as his primary option, to not now have plan B options to act on would be unacceptable.

I agree, i would say with 99% probability that we will sign a striker this summer with the aim that he will be no.1 choice at the start of the season.[/QUOTE]

Either Vards or a fifty million quid one, do you mean?

[PSRB]

Can I simply say that in respect of the proposed decision of Vardy to not come to Arsenal that I am not in the slightest bit bothered.

That is not a petulant ‘not bothered’ because he had the nerve to turn us down, simply that I am not bothered.

Ditto, I was struggling to word it correctly, so I'll just go with what you said

[Pokster]

Yes!

Either Vards or a fifty million quid one, do you mean?[/QUOTE]

[Rich]

I wouldn’t 100% rule it out as being dead just yet, Wenger’s comment is very much in line with how he has always spoken on transfers.

In the summer when every man and child knew that players like Nasri and Fabregas would leave he was always adamant that he “expected” players to stay, the basis of which I assume is that they were under contract. Had he in any way deviated from such a statement he would have stoked the media into an even bigger story.

I do think the boy Vardy has been a bit of a huge **** about the whole thing. Stay/leave, just come clean but then be up front with the media that he will not speak on the topic again until the Euros are over, so next weekend.

More time to think about it, do **** off.

My caveat on the whole issue is that having now admitted that we know there is a need to address the forward area that we 100% now do so. Previous summers have seen us enter the water and then run back out again. By looking at Vardy he has told the world that he is not completely happy with Giroud as his primary option, to not now have plan B options to act on would be unacceptable.

I really do think he will be a disaster if he comes here. Arsenal do not play in a way that would help him thrive. Giroud can have a good season with us if he hits some form. He brings others into the game very well and has a good touch for a big man. Vardy's touch/passing is ****e.

[Alberto Balsam Rodriguez]

I wouldn’t 100% rule it out as being dead just yet, Wenger’s comment is very much in line with how he has always spoken on transfers.

In the summer when every man and child knew that players like Nasri and Fabregas would leave he was always adamant that he “expected” players to stay, the basis of which I assume is that they were under contract. Had he in any way deviated from such a statement he would have stoked the media into an even bigger story.

I do think the boy Vardy has been a bit of a huge **** about the whole thing. Stay/leave, just come clean but then be up front with the media that he will not speak on the topic again until the Euros are over, so next weekend.

More time to think about it, do **** off.

My caveat on the whole issue is that having now admitted that we know there is a need to address the forward area that we 100% now do so. Previous summers have seen us enter the water and then run back out again. By looking at Vardy he has told the world that he is not completely happy with Giroud as his primary option, to not now have plan B options to act on would be unacceptable.


I tried to say the same above but you put it in a better way. By admitting we are in the market, we should not be walking away empty handed.

We also don't want a similar situation to last year where we were apparently looking then Wenger told us that Welbeck was deaded for a few months the morning after the windows closed.

[SWv2]

I tried to say the same above but you put it in a better way. By admitting we are in the market, we should not be walking away empty handed.

We also don't want a similar situation to last year where we were apparently looking then Wenger told us that Welbeck was deaded for a few months the morning after the windows closed.

I have no idea what Wenger’s next step is in relation to a striker. Had he really wanted Morata (just to use him as an example) then he would have gone for him by now. I don’t think you have a plan A at £20m and then a plan B at £30m, does not tend to work like that.

[Billy Goat Sverige]

I have no idea what Wenger’s next step is in relation to a striker. Had he really wanted Morata (just to use him as an example) then he would have gone for him by now. I don’t think you have a plan A at £20m and then a plan B at £30m, does not tend to work like that.

Hang on. We were after Higuain before we went for Suarez, who was more expensive. Surely the Vardy signing was more opportunistic than anything else? Wenger probably thought he could get better value, but now he can't so has to pay the inflated figures for Morata/Lacazette/Batshuayi etc...

[SWv2]

Hang on. We were after Higuain before we went for Suarez, who was more expensive. Surely the Vardy signing was more opportunistic than anything else? Wenger probably thought he could get better value, but now he can't so has to pay the inflated figures for Morata/Lacazette/Batshuayi etc...

I would rather not reflect on the whole summer of Suarez if it is okay with you, but you may have a point.

However I do seem to recall us having an agreement in place for Higuain at an initial price lower than €40m, then they hiked the price up at which point we swerved and made fools of ourselves.

[redgunamo]

I would rather not reflect on the whole summer of Suarez if it is okay with you, but you may have a point.

However I do seem to recall us having an agreement in place for Higuain at an initial price lower than €40m, then they hiked the price up at which point we swerved and made fools of ourselves.

Right. We ended up with Mesut Özil :-(

[Alberto Balsam Rodriguez]

I have no idea what Wenger’s next step is in relation to a striker. Had he really wanted Morata (just to use him as an example) then he would have gone for him by now. I don’t think you have a plan A at £20m and then a plan B at £30m, does not tend to work like that.

I would like to think that Wenger has a few targets in mind. It does appear that Vardy was an option that popped up and was offering good value so was worth a punt. Of course, Wenger might have played his hand and we are waiting to see what happens.

[Alberto Balsam Rodriguez]

Right. We ended up with Mesut Özil :-(

Wasn't the whole Suarez thing the year the summer after we signed Ozil?

You might be right actually.

[Alberto Balsam Rodriguez]

Either Vards or a fifty million quid one, do you mean?

Or a striker who may or may not turn out to be any good in 3 years time :shrug:

[Luis Anaconda]

Wasn't the whole Suarez thing the year the summer after we signed Ozil?

You might be right actually.

It doesn't seem that long ago but it was the same summer before the world cup - then we signed Sanchez the following year as well

[SWv2]

It doesn't seem that long ago but it was the same summer before the world cup - then we signed Sanchez the following year as well

Loads of time, still only June.

[Alberto Balsam Rodriguez]

It was while he had the domestic ban for biting the Chelsea player. The following year he got the Fifa ban from the World Cup and had moved to Barca.

[redgunamo]

Or a striker who may or may not turn out to be any good in 3 years time :shrug:

Nobody minds that, so long as he wins us the league.

[eastgermanautos]

We got one of our major targets very quickly and had a bid accepted for another one - can't legislate for his weird option to remain
We're hardly having a disastrous time - window isn't even open yet ffs

Wenger needs to fvcking retire to his bar in the Alsace. He's a damn vampire on our historic, time-hallowed club. Fuvk that guy.

[redgunamo]

I wouldn’t 100% rule it out as being dead just yet, Wenger’s comment is very much in line with how he has always spoken on transfers.

In the summer when every man and child knew that players like Nasri and Fabregas would leave he was always adamant that he “expected” players to stay, the basis of which I assume is that they were under contract. Had he in any way deviated from such a statement he would have stoked the media into an even bigger story.

I do think the boy Vardy has been a bit of a huge **** about the whole thing. Stay/leave, just come clean but then be up front with the media that he will not speak on the topic again until the Euros are over, so next weekend.

More time to think about it, do **** off.

My caveat on the whole issue is that having now admitted that we know there is a need to address the forward area that we 100% now do so. Previous summers have seen us enter the water and then run back out again. By looking at Vardy he has told the world that he is not completely happy with Giroud as his primary option, to not now have plan B options to act on would be unacceptable.

Yeah, it's perfectly understandable he'd want to concentrate on England just now, imo. Wenger seems to see the justice in that too.

As you say elsewhere, no hurry.

[Tony C]

Break the bank for the beast.....LUKAKU

The lad can't be the best striker in Europe playing with us....and I'm sure our team could use his strength and power up front....can play with any of our strikers on on his own...knows the premier league in side out.....champions league football.

Got to be the main target now.

IMO

Can't believe the lad is still only 23 too....even account for dodgy birth certificate that still impressive.....26-28 age range?

That will do...most of the top strikers in Europe are that age group any ways.....

What we talking here....£40m to £50m Max price range.....fair enough. Not sure what Arsene is expecting in today's market but that's pretty much the going rate.