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redgunamo
06-08-2016, 08:22 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfskgQ6Z_bA

Burney
06-08-2016, 08:38 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfskgQ6Z_bA

Never watch the modern Tom and Jerry, r. They both speak and - God help us - they're friends.

Needless to say, there are no laughs. :-(

It's enough to make you weep. :cry:

redgunamo
06-08-2016, 08:49 PM
The Doc is about somewhere, I think..


Never watch the modern Tom and Jerry, r. They both speak and - God help us - they're friends.

Needless to say, there are no laughs. :-(

It's enough to make you weep. :cry:

The Jorge
06-08-2016, 09:45 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfskgQ6Z_bA

I bought a massive box set of those, peerless stuff. Even the racialist bits.

17 Oscars apparently, who knew?

redgunamo
06-09-2016, 07:38 AM
Well done the NAACP for spoiling it all :-|


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e36kMwopPI0


I bought a massive box set of those, peerless stuff. Even the racialist bits.

17 Oscars apparently, who knew?

Ash
06-09-2016, 12:20 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfskgQ6Z_bA

Magnificent stuff all round. And featuring the finest of stringed instruments too. :cloud9:

The Jorge
06-09-2016, 12:22 PM
Magnificent stuff all round. And featuring the finest of stringed instruments too. :cloud9:

Indeed, lovely stuff

http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/7700000/Tom-tom-and-jerry-7752677-714-572.jpg

Dr Headgear - Wannabe viking
06-09-2016, 12:23 PM
What's all this jazz-love today?

I thought I was the only one allowed to stroke my chin and say niiiiiiice.

Dr Headgear - Wannabe viking
06-09-2016, 12:25 PM
Oh I can beat that.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CQmKmF9pBw

The Jorge
06-09-2016, 12:28 PM
Oh I can beat that.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGaaxlvP-BA

You could if we were allowed to watch it. Music from the beard, is it?

http://static.stuff.co.nz/1233108507/103/763103.jpg

Dr Headgear - Wannabe viking
06-09-2016, 12:32 PM
You could if we were allowed to watch it. Music from the beard, is it?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CQmKmF9pBw

http://static.stuff.co.nz/1233108507/103/763103.jpg

You can. Link is fixed.
****ing anti-embedding ****s.

Ash
06-09-2016, 12:32 PM
What's all this jazz-love today?

I thought I was the only one allowed to stroke my chin and say niiiiiiice.

Swing is cool, man.

I bet you listen to some right pervy stuff though. The really dischordant cauterwaul that makes Sonic Youth sound like The Beatles.

Ash
06-09-2016, 12:35 PM
I bought a massive box set of those, peerless stuff. Even the racialist bits.

17 Oscars apparently, who knew?

As a kid I remember the Fred Quimby ones were the best.

The Jorge
06-09-2016, 12:35 PM
Swing is cool, man.

I bet you listen to some right pervy stuff though. The really dischordant cauterwaul that makes Sonic Youth sound like The Beatles.

:vsign: Leave Sonic Youth out of this, and dont tell me youve never dug a bit of feedback driven a-tonality

Dr Headgear - Wannabe viking
06-09-2016, 12:50 PM
Well typically I'd be more likely to go for something like this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmwsQ_dHrFM


There are some avant garde "discordant" pieces I like, but it's a rare mood.

Ash
06-09-2016, 01:22 PM
Well typically I'd be more likely to go for something like this:

[/noodly stuff]

Does it get better when you know it well? Anticipating the path of the solos is crucial, I imagine, when there are about nine of them, and all, to the untutored ear, on pretty random notes not really affiliated with any of the nice keys.

I'm not saying you should never play off the nice notes, but I prefer it done in passing, and on the way to the harmomic stuff rather than a destiny itself. I heard it said once that the Beatles resurrected proper classical music, with an adherence to the mathematical laws that make western music harmonic, which had been abandoned by 20th century classical and jazz's experimentalism. I like the nice notes, you see. Played in a line, as melody, on together, as harmony.

Now, some more of what I like that can be considered in the jazz camp.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDQpZT3GhDg

Ash
06-09-2016, 01:32 PM
:vsign: Leave Sonic Youth out of this, and dont tell me youve never dug a bit of feedback driven a-tonality

:hehe: Works. Every. Time.

I used to be able to listen to European Sun when I was young and very stoned. I can't any more. I prefer feedback-driven tonality (Jesus and the Mary Chain).

The Jorge
06-09-2016, 01:46 PM
:hehe: Works. Every. Time.

I used to be able to listen to European Sun when I was young and very stoned. I can't any more. I prefer feedback-driven tonality (Jesus and the Mary Chain).

I watched that Late Show: No Nirvana special the other day. Sugar always make me think of you for some reason. Also, their drummer is impossibly dainty techniquewise.


https://youtu.be/BOrd1jNyXwY?t=1423

redgunamo
06-09-2016, 01:53 PM
What's all this jazz-love today?

I thought I was the only one allowed to stroke my chin and say niiiiiiice.

The new board has changed people, Doc. They were even praising Prince the other day, and not only by PM either :-|

Ash
06-09-2016, 02:08 PM
I watched that Late Show: No Nirvana special the other day. Sugar always make me think of you for some reason. Also, their drummer is impossibly dainty techniquewise.

Ooh, thanks for posting that. Haven't seen it for a couple of years. Gepetto :cloud9: Going to see Belly in a few weeks! At the Forum.

And yes, I could have cited Sugar as a harmonic feedback love. You are right, the drumming is exquisite, and their sound is stamped indelibly on my soul.

This song is what my mind actually sounds like.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrLcNWi94Wk

The Jorge
06-09-2016, 02:19 PM
Ooh, thanks for posting that. Haven't seen it for a couple of years. Gepetto :cloud9: Going to see Belly in a few weeks! At the Forum.

And yes, I could have cited Sugar as a harmonic feedback love. You are right, the drumming is exquisite, and their sound is stamped indelibly on my soul.

This song is what my mind actually sounds like.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrLcNWi94Wk

:clap: Early 90s grainy, jerky and artful videos. Everything is basically The Kids in the Hall's title sequence.

On the Bobster, have you heard this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe1HW4jlQl0

Dr Headgear - Wannabe viking
06-09-2016, 02:22 PM
Hmmmm....

Work Song was one of the more straight ahead hard bop tunes. Lot's of notes, sure, but very few breaking the harmonic underpinning of the tune, which is a basic 16 bar minor blues. I suspect if you transcribed the solos and played them on electric guitar with a bit of feedback they wouldn't sound out of place. Mostly pentatonic, with some blue notes that add colour and tension/resolution, and some chord substitutions (also to add colour and tension/resolution). It's well on the funkier/bluesier end of the jazz spectrum.

For a real masterpiece in tension and resolution, you can't beat Coltrane's A Love Supreme album. He doesn't actually play that many different notes, but has huge variation in his phrasing and combination of them. It's incredibly powerful, almost visceral. Definitely not noodling! You can hear pain, passion, ecstasy in every note. Also worth thinking about in terms other than harmony/melody/rhythm - the tonal texture, for instance, the soundscape. We're used to describing Phil Spectors "wall of sound", for instance, or understanding hard rock as something that blasts you away, but similar things were happening in jazz.

I don't think you'll like it, but I dare you to listen to it all the way through (or experience it, more let it wash over you - just like an acid trip, if you try too hard to understand, control or fight it you'll have a **** time). Just the first 4 parts (the rest is just extras), a little over half an hour.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clC6cgoh1sU

PS - yes it does grow on you. I didn't like it when I was younger, it's not particularly accessible or easy listening. Now I know almost every note by heart.

PPS - I love a bit of The Duke as well, cheers :-D

The Jorge
06-09-2016, 02:24 PM
Hmmmm....Jaaaaazzzzzz. Nice


I think I'm contractually obliged to post...

https://media.giphy.com/media/3o85xxRWBFKcZH524o/giphy.gif

Dr Headgear - Wannabe viking
06-09-2016, 02:25 PM
Jesus.

It's wrong. AWIMB was a bastion of musically retarded middle aged men with Springsteen fetishes and callow youths who thought they'd invented electronic dance music. They're not allowed to like jazz, or Prince.

Ash
06-09-2016, 02:29 PM
I don't think you'll like it, but I dare you to listen to it all the way through (or experience it, more let it wash over you - just like an acid trip, if you try too hard to understand, control or fight it you'll have a **** time). Just the first 4 parts (the rest is just extras), a little over half an hour.


Ok, will try and give it a go later. Had a quick shufti - The Sweeney at 1:04! Nice.

Ash
06-09-2016, 02:31 PM
:clap: Early 90s grainy, jerky and artful videos. Everything is basically The Kids in the Hall's title sequence.

On the Bobster, have you heard this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe1HW4jlQl0

No, I hadn't. Cheers. :thumbup:

Dr Headgear - Wannabe viking
06-09-2016, 02:41 PM
Thank you, Jorge. I feel better already.

The Jorge
06-09-2016, 02:42 PM
Thank you, Jorge. I feel better already.

Well you were clearly pining for the old awimb.

:miver: :****blanket:

Dr Headgear - Wannabe viking
06-09-2016, 02:44 PM
You'll hate it ;-)

Incidentally, when we're talking about noise, atonality, walls of sound etc - where do you stand on, say, Velvet Underground?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFLw26BjDZs

7sisters
06-09-2016, 02:46 PM
Hmmmm....

Work Song was one of the more straight ahead hard bop tunes. Lot's of notes, sure, but very few breaking the harmonic underpinning of the tune, which is a basic 16 bar minor blues. I suspect if you transcribed the solos and played them on electric guitar with a bit of feedback they wouldn't sound out of place. Mostly pentatonic, with some blue notes that add colour and tension/resolution, and some chord substitutions (also to add colour and tension/resolution). It's well on the funkier/bluesier end of the jazz spectrum.

For a real masterpiece in tension and resolution, you can't beat Coltrane's A Love Supreme album. He doesn't actually play that many different notes, but has huge variation in his phrasing and combination of them. It's incredibly powerful, almost visceral. Definitely not noodling! You can hear pain, passion, ecstasy in every note. Also worth thinking about in terms other than harmony/melody/rhythm - the tonal texture, for instance, the soundscape. We're used to describing Phil Spectors "wall of sound", for instance, or understanding hard rock as something that blasts you away, but similar things were happening in jazz.

I don't think you'll like it, but I dare you to listen to it all the way through (or experience it, more let it wash over you - just like an acid trip, if you try too hard to understand, control or fight it you'll have a **** time). Just the first 4 parts (the rest is just extras), a little over half an hour.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clC6cgoh1sU

PS - yes it does grow on you. I didn't like it when I was younger, it's not particularly accessible or easy listening. Now I know almost every note by heart.

PPS - I love a bit of The Duke as well, cheers :-D

As a side note, McCoy Tyner's haunting staccato piano work contribution is worth a mention.

Ash
06-09-2016, 02:52 PM
You'll hate it ;-)

Incidentally, when we're talking about noise, atonality, walls of sound etc - where do you stand on, say, Velvet Underground?


I already mentioned European Sun above. I was ok with the Velvets when young and stoned. Less so now, but still like some songs.

Dr Headgear - Wannabe viking
06-09-2016, 02:58 PM
I already mentioned European Sun above. I was ok with the Velvets when young and stoned. Less so now, but still like some songs.

Oops! Sorry, missed that entire branch of the thread.

Dr Headgear - Wannabe viking
06-09-2016, 02:59 PM
Yes, love his playing. Lays down huge block chords.

This piece from his own trio is one of my favourites. Gorgeous. Seems purpose built for Joe Henderson's tone.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xafJW_VtA8w

7sisters
06-09-2016, 03:19 PM
Did you ever hear Robert Glasper's nod to Miles Davis.
I like Glasper, although many may see it as an abomination.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJnIpohlNVY

Dr Headgear - Wannabe viking
06-09-2016, 03:22 PM
I tried to listen to that the other day. Not keen at all, think I may just not like his beats.

Dr Headgear - Wannabe viking
06-09-2016, 03:24 PM
Indeed.

I may have to abuse bernie for being a disgusting flatviewer. Totally ****s up any and every threaded view, the ****.

SWv2
06-09-2016, 03:44 PM
Hmmmm....

Work Song was one of the more straight ahead hard bop tunes. Lot's of notes, sure, but very few breaking the harmonic underpinning of the tune, which is a basic 16 bar minor blues. I suspect if you transcribed the solos and played them on electric guitar with a bit of feedback they wouldn't sound out of place. Mostly pentatonic, with some blue notes that add colour and tension/resolution, and some chord substitutions (also to add colour and tension/resolution). It's well on the funkier/bluesier end of the jazz spectrum.

For a real masterpiece in tension and resolution, you can't beat Coltrane's A Love Supreme album. He doesn't actually play that many different notes, but has huge variation in his phrasing and combination of them. It's incredibly powerful, almost visceral. Definitely not noodling! You can hear pain, passion, ecstasy in every note. Also worth thinking about in terms other than harmony/melody/rhythm - the tonal texture, for instance, the soundscape. We're used to describing Phil Spectors "wall of sound", for instance, or understanding hard rock as something that blasts you away, but similar things were happening in jazz.

I don't think you'll like it, but I dare you to listen to it all the way through (or experience it, more let it wash over you - just like an acid trip, if you try too hard to understand, control or fight it you'll have a **** time). Just the first 4 parts (the rest is just extras), a little over half an hour.

PS - yes it does grow on you. I didn't like it when I was younger, it's not particularly accessible or easy listening. Now I know almost every note by heart.

PPS - I love a bit of The Duke as well, cheers :-D

Jesus ****ing christ.