Blimey, the two members of the public who confront the Allan in this video

[Monty92]

Brave or stupid? I would have ****ing legged it.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/video/2016/jun/02/new-footage-leytonstone-knife-attacker-tasered-video

[The Jorge]

Brave or stupid? I would have ****ing legged it.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/video/2016/jun/02/new-footage-leytonstone-knife-attacker-tasered-video

It seems more the case that they're understandably reluctant to turn their back on him

[Monty92]

It seems more the case that they're understandably reluctant to turn their back on him

What? They had every chance to run. And then one of them returned and physically engaged him.

[Sir C]

What? They had every chance to run. And then one of them returned and physically engaged him.

Pair of cowards. How come they waited for the police to put him down?

That's what 70 years of socialism does to a society. No moral fibre. Shirk the responsibility and wait for the civil servants to do the dirty work.

[7sisters]

Brave or stupid? I would have ****ing legged it.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/video/2016/jun/02/new-footage-leytonstone-knife-attacker-tasered-video

Did someone back at the nick switch the tazer for a BB gun ? That thing seemed pretty bloody useless tbh
Surely once fired, the victim should be rolling around like Pepe in a cup final.

[Burney]

Pair of cowards. How come they waited for the police to put him down?

That's what 70 years of socialism does to a society. No moral fibre. Shirk the responsibility and wait for the civil servants to do the dirty work.

Even more disappointing that, once the civil servants turned up, they didn't have the means to just blow the ****'s head off and save us the expense of trying and imprisoning him.

[Norn Iron]

I've no sound but did the first police man on the scene not have a taser? Or was he just useless?

It's seems silly that the Police in England don't carry guns given the terrorist threat. What's the argument against it? It works fine in Northern Ireland.

[The Jorge]

I've no sound but did the first police man on the scene not have a taser? Or was he just useless?

It's seems silly that the Police in England don't carry guns given the terrorist threat. What's the argument against it? It works fine in Northern Ireland.

When they're allowed guns they tend to shoot the wrong bloke and then have to make up tedious justifications for why they shot them.

[Burney]

When they're allowed guns they tend to shoot the wrong bloke and then have to make up tedious justifications for why they shot them.

No such thing as shooting the wrong bloke, j. Everyone's guilty of something.

[The Jorge]

No such thing as shooting the wrong bloke, j. Everyone's guilty of something.

Bit draconian for Fare Avoision though

[Sir C]

When they're allowed guns they tend to shoot the wrong bloke and then have to make up tedious justifications for why they shot them.

Yes, how many would you say they've killed this week? Around the 300,000 mark, I'd guess?

[The Jorge]

Yes, how many would you say they've killed this week? Around the 300,000 mark, I'd guess?

Not many, they arent allowed guns

[Burney]

Bit draconian for Fare Avoision though

Not at all. Pour encourager les autres and all that.

[Jake]

Brave or stupid? I would have ****ing legged it.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/video/2016/jun/02/new-footage-leytonstone-knife-attacker-tasered-video

Definitely stupid. The fella on the left start swinging his blue offy bag as if he was going to use it and its contents as a ****ing flail :hehe:

[Fast Eddie]

Pales in comparison to the doo-doo's continuous front, assault and slaughter of Palestinian children.

Mr. Allan's anger is understood when one actually looks at how the West has systematically intervened and carved up the Middle East to the benefit only of Zionism and Western oil interests.

[redgunamo]

I've no sound but did the first police man on the scene not have a taser? Or was he just useless?

It's seems silly that the Police in England don't carry guns given the terrorist threat. What's the argument against it? It works fine in Northern Ireland.

Oh, I think they've an acceptable level of armed readiness, all told.

[Burney]

Definitely stupid. The fella on the left start swinging his blue offy bag as if he was going to use it and its contents as a ****ing flail :hehe:

He may have been hoping that the alcohol would ward off an Allan as garlic does with vampires.

[Fast Eddie]

When they're allowed guns they tend to shoot the wrong bloke and then have to make up tedious justifications for why they shot them.

True.

I don't follow much coverage of Northern Irish politics much anymore, but I doubt that the PSNI will ever be allowed to fire a gun on any terrorist from both sides ever again, mainly because of the actions of the RUC. A baton rounds maybe. A water hose most indefinitely.

[The Jorge]

He may have been hoping that the alcohol would ward off an Allan as garlic does with vampires.

Not a keen fan of etymology then

[Burney]

Not a keen fan of etymology then

Clearly not. Although it is always fun at celebrations of sporting victory when the Champagne starts getting sprayed around watching the Allans scatter as though it's acid or something.

[redgunamo]

Clearly not. Although it is always fun at celebrations of sporting victory when the Champagne starts getting sprayed around watching the Allans scatter as though it's acid or something.

Good point actually. Did Mesut do that? He didn't, did he?!

[Monty92]

Pales in comparison to the doo-doo's continuous front, assault and slaughter of Palestinian children.

Mr. Allan's anger is understood when one actually looks at how the West has systematically intervened and carved up the Middle East to the benefit only of Zionism and Western oil interests.

Alternatively, Mr. Allan's anger is understood if you read the book he considers the immutable word of God.

[The Jorge]

Alternatively, Mr. Allan's anger is understood if you read the book he considers the immutable word of God.

Meh, not so much, and I've actually read both of them. As I have most of the other major religious texts.

[Burney]

Alternatively, Mr. Allan's anger is understood if you read the book he considers the immutable word of God.

Yes. Also, since the fellow in question was Somalian, what exactly did the Middle East have to do with him - other than his religion, of course?

[Fast Eddie]

Alternatively, Mr. Allan's anger is understood if you read the book he considers the immutable word of God.

In times of war, I believe it refers to. And war came to the 'Allans', not the other way about.

[Monty92]

Good point actually. Did Mesut do that? He didn't, did he?!

What has he had to celebrate recently?

171

[redgunamo]

Meh, not so much, and I've actually read both of them. As I have most of the other major religious texts.

Even this one?

http://www.zvab.com/Saluki-Book-British-Champions-1923-73-Supplement/9299284677/buch

[Monty92]

In times of war, I believe it refers to. And war came to the 'Allans', not the other way about.

Right. That'll also be why the various denominations of the same religion are slaughtering each other across the Muslim world? Nothing to do with a devout belief in what is written in their holy book?

And that'l also be why educated muslims who have never experienced poverty or war think that blowing themselves up is a good idea?

[redgunamo]

What has he had to celebrate recently?

171

Exactly. He's about 95% German, I reckon. Possibly more.

[Burney]

In times of war, I believe it refers to. And war came to the 'Allans', not the other way about.

As ever, your history is totally ****ing wrong. Islam was explicitly and deliberately spread by the use of warfare and imposed by conquest. Indeed, the first, classical doctrine of jihad was 'jihad bil-saif' (jihad of the sword).

And, of course, they invaded Christian Europe long before we invaded them (Al-Andalus, the Battle of Tours, etc, etc). The idea that Islam just stayed peacefully where it was until evil whitey came along and attacked them is utterly laughable.

[Monty92]

Meh, not so much, and I've actually read both of them. As I have most of the other major religious texts.

Come now. There's playing devil's advocate and then there's just being a dick.

[The Jorge]

Come now. There's playing devil's advocate and then there's just being a dick.

I'm just pointing out that most islamic anger doesnt come from the

[Fast Eddie]

Right. That'll also be why the various denominations of the same religion are slaughtering each other across the Muslim world? Nothing to do with a devout belief in what is written in their holy book?

They're totally radicalised and it's got out of hand, far more than the West instigated it to be. The West opened a vacuum.

ISIS stands for Iraq and Syria for a reason.

[redgunamo]

They're totally radicalised and it's got out of hand, far more than the West instigated it to be. The West opened a vacuum.

ISIS stands for Iraq and Syria for a reason.

It's mostly just for show though, like a toddler having a temper-tantrum.

[Monty92]

They're totally radicalised and it's got out of hand, far more than the West instigated it to be. The West opened a vacuum.

ISIS stands for Iraq and Syria for a reason.

You’re a thick **** - **** off (which is what I’d say to Jorge if I didn’t think there was a chance he’d chuck me some work at some point)

[Fast Eddie]

As ever, your history is totally ****ing wrong. Islam was explicitly and deliberately spread by the use of warfare and imposed by conquest. Indeed, the first, classical doctrine of jihad was 'jihad bil-saif' (jihad of the sword).

And, of course, they invaded Christian Europe long before we invaded them (Al-Andalus, the Battle of Tours, etc, etc). The idea that Islam just stayed peacefully where it was until evil whitey came along and attacked them is utterly laughable.

Nerve touched LOL.

My history isn't that of British Imperialism which raped and carved up the planet and radicalised the natives.

Tell me good Sir, when you were shaking hands with Bin Laden and financing and arming the Taliban, were you justifying Islamist violence towards the invader? Why did you invade Afghanistan despite the main culprits being Saudis? (Who use horrifying violence as punishment, but that's OK as your Monarchy greet them and raise flags in honour when members of their Monarchy dies :rolleyes: )

Don't give me that **** that you oppose the 'Allans'.

[Fast Eddie]

You’re a thick **** - **** off (which is what I’d say to Jorge if I didn’t think there was a chance he’d chuck me some work at some point)

More nerves touched :D

Truth hurts.

Invader/Infidel.

[Fast Eddie]

Third major base of ISIS is Libya.

Go figure :eek:

But the blind think it's all a coincidence and nothing to do with Western/Zionist interventionism LOL

[7sisters]

Nerve touched LOL.

My history isn't that of British Imperialism which raped and carved up the planet and radicalised the natives.

Tell me good Sir, when you were shaking hands with Bin Laden and financing and arming the Taliban, were you justifying Islamist violence towards the invader? Why did you invade Afghanistan despite the main culprits being Saudis? (Who use horrifying violence as punishment, but that's OK as your Monarchy greet them and raise flags in honour when members of their Monarchy dies :rolleyes: )

Don't give me that **** that you oppose the 'Allans'.

Right.. so you just want to move the historical goalposts when it suits your argument then ?
British Imperialism = bad.
The Muslim invasion of Europe led by the Umayyad Caliphate, making it the fifth largest empire in history = good ?

[Fast Eddie]

Right.. so you just want to move the historical goalposts when it suits your argument then ?
British Imperialism = bad.
The Muslim invasion of Europe led by the Umayyad Caliphate, making it the fifth largest empire in history = good ?

I'm not moving historical goalposts at all. I'm happy to stay in present time, which is why I brought up Iraq, Syria, Libya, The Taliban, Bin Laden.... All which the West intervened and or created.

And it wont stop there. More Middle Eastern lands will be used as a geopolitical training ground by the Military Industrial Complex and be blindly supported by shills like Berni and Monty and when it comes back they'll play victim, as usual.

[devongunner]

They're totally radicalised and it's got out of hand, far more than the West instigated it to be. The West opened a vacuum.

ISIS stands for Iraq and Syria for a reason.

ISIS actually stands for Islamic State in Syria just as its original name ISIL stood for Islamic State in Levant

ps You do talk crap

[Fast Eddie]

ISIS actually stands for Islamic State in Syria just as its original name ISIL stood for Islamic State in Levant

Do a bit of research and you'll find that ISIS is also an acronym for Islamic State of Iraq and Syria.


ps You do talk crap

:eek: :( Please expand (not like Burney's waist size)