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Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult
05-30-2016, 02:22 PM
we drop points and he doesn't score?

That would damage his confidence even more.

We need more goals. I just feel that it could be really horrible next year if we don't buy a top right winger and a striker. Esp with Jose at Man Utd.

If the crowd get on the team's back again, it could be another vile season.

Luis Anaconda
05-30-2016, 02:24 PM
we drop points and he doesn't score?

That would damage his confidence even more.

We need more goals. I just feel that it could be really horrible next year if we don't buy a top right winger and a striker. Esp with Jose at Man Utd.

If the crowd get on the team's back again, it could be another vile season.

Who are the top strikers you seek, GG? You keep mentioning a top striker but no names mentioned


We have more than enough players who can play "right wing" if such a position exists in our team as well

Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult
05-30-2016, 02:34 PM
Who are the top strikers you seek, GG? You keep mentioning a top striker but no names mentioned


We have more than enough players who can play "right wing" if such a position exists in our team as well

I know I'm think and don't get football, LA, but I'm not that thick.

I'm not saying we should buy Messi.

I'm saying that we aren't linked with any top strikers cos there aren't any out there, and this will cause us problems next year.

If that makes sense.

Luis Anaconda
05-30-2016, 02:41 PM
I know I'm think and don't get football, LA, but I'm not that thick.

I'm not saying we should buy Messi.

I'm saying that we aren't linked with any top strikers cos there aren't any out there, and this will cause us problems next year.

If that makes sense.

No offense meant, sir. And yes I agree with that point, gg and it does make sense - that's the problem. We almost have to get lucky to get that last piece of the jigsaw

redgunamo
05-30-2016, 02:51 PM
No offense meant, sir. And yes I agree with that point, gg and it does make sense - that's the problem. We almost have to get lucky to get that last piece of the jigsaw

Or just throw 70 or 80 million quid at it, we haven't tried that method yet.

And I ****ing *hate* jigsaws :furious:

Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult
05-30-2016, 02:52 PM
No offense meant, sir. And yes I agree with that point, gg and it does make sense - that's the problem. We almost have to get lucky to get that last piece of the jigsaw

Oh, none taken, obviously LA.

I think part of my point is that we haven't played a long enough game.

I mean, we used to collect strikers. Having Bergy and Anelka and buying Kanu. Or having Titi and Bergy and Skiltord and JAR and buying a young RVP.

Yet since we switched to 4-3-3 playing just one striker, he's collected lots of little No.10s and not bothered with the strikers as he can only play one, where he can play 4 or 5 no.10s.

So last year we had Ozil, Santi, Jack, Rambo and TR7, but we only had Olly and two players (Feo and Welbz) who could also play wide.

I think this is my point.

When we used to play 2 up front, we could have 3 world class strikers.

Since we only play 1, he only has one and cover who can also play wide.

So if that one isn't good enough or gets injured, we are in ****.

Do you agree about not collecting enough strikers while over collecting no.10s?

And do you think that the change to a lone striker has had any bearing on this?

Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult
05-30-2016, 02:56 PM
Or just throw 70 or 80 million quid at it, we haven't tried that method yet.

And I ****ing *hate* jigsaws :furious:

I think the point is that there's no-one to throw money at.

I would like to know if FLC would have taken £55mil for Suarez or RM the same for Higuain.

If so, we missed a trick there.

There are less strikers now everyone plays just a lone front man. So you really have to pay top dollar if one becomes available.

My post was less about buying someone as I haven't seen us linked with anyone any good.

It's whether the fans will blame Olly for AW not having found a top replacement. And what that will do to his confidence, esp with Welbz out all season, and Feo proved to be ****.

I like Olly, but I fear the fans will blame him every time we drop points and he doesn't score. Which will **** his confidence.

Luis Anaconda
05-30-2016, 02:57 PM
Oh, none taken, obviously LA.

I think part of my point is that we haven't played a long enough game.

I mean, we used to collect strikers. Having Bergy and Anelka and buying Kanu. Or having Titi and Bergy and Skiltord and JAR and buying a young RVP.

Yet since we switched to 4-3-3 playing just one striker, he's collected lots of little No.10s and not bothered with the strikers as he can only play one, where he can play 4 or 5 no.10s.

So last year we had Ozil, Santi, Jack, Rambo and TR7, but we only had Olly and two players (Feo and Welbz) who could also play wide.

I think this is my point.

When we used to play 2 up front, we could have 3 world class strikers.

Since we only play 1, he only has one and cover who can also play wide.

So if that one isn't good enough or gets injured, we are in ****.

Do you agree about not collecting enough strikers while over collecting no.10s?

And do you think that the change to a lone striker has had any bearing on this?

I do see your point and appreciate it - but you are talking to the wrong man. Red will love it. Personally, I don't think you can have enough No 10s :)

Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult
05-30-2016, 03:07 PM
I do see your point and appreciate it - but you are talking to the wrong man. Red will love it. Personally, I don't think you can have enough No 10s :)

Oh, I know what you mean. We've been blessed with the quality of the football since we started playing tika taka.

But last year we had one striker and 6 No.10s (Ozzy, Santi, Jack, Rambo, Alexis and TR7.)

Don't you think a 2/5 split of those seven players would have been better?

Though we still come back to the same problem that there aren't any to buy.

Is this all down to the change from 4-4-2 to a lone striker? The fact that top teams could have 3 top drawer strikers while now they mostly have one?

I just hope our fans are as understanding as you next year, and don't blame Olly. Or even better, that Olly has his best ever season like RVP did when he came back from injury and scored 30 in that calender year.

redgunamo
05-30-2016, 03:17 PM
I think the point is that there's no-one to throw money at.

I would like to know if FLC would have taken £55mil for Suarez or RM the same for Higuain.

If so, we missed a trick there.

There are less strikers now everyone plays just a lone front man. So you really have to pay top dollar if one becomes available.

My post was less about buying someone as I haven't seen us linked with anyone any good.

It's whether the fans will blame Olly for AW not having found a top replacement. And what that will do to his confidence, esp with Welbz out all season, and Feo proved to be ****.

I like Olly, but I fear the fans will blame him every time we drop points and he doesn't score. Which will **** his confidence.

You can't fool me, I'm a married man; there's *always* something to throw money at!

Alberto Balsam Rodriguez
05-30-2016, 03:36 PM
Hmmmm..... I'd argue that a hatful of number 10s without a quality number 9 to finish it all off is like an incomplete jigsaw, somewhat puzzling!

Alberto Balsam Rodriguez
05-30-2016, 03:38 PM
Give it to me :-)

I might struggle to score 20+ goals a season, especially being in my 40s. I could use the money though.

eastgermanautos
05-30-2016, 03:38 PM
Oh, I know what you mean. We've been blessed with the quality of the football since we started playing tika taka.

But last year we had one striker and 6 No.10s (Ozzy, Santi, Jack, Rambo, Alexis and TR7.)

Don't you think a 2/5 split of those seven players would have been better?

Though we still come back to the same problem that there aren't any to buy.

Is this all down to the change from 4-4-2 to a lone striker? The fact that top teams could have 3 top drawer strikers while now they mostly have one?

I just hope our fans are as understanding as you next year, and don't blame Olly. Or even better, that Olly has his best ever season like RVP did when he came back from injury and scored 30 in that calender year.


fyi all six no. 10s were injured last campaign. However, apart from that, we should get on giroud. He's a clown with his fourteen game scoring drought. I mean, seriously. Get a clue. Messi is disappointed if he only scores two per game.

redgunamo
05-30-2016, 03:53 PM
we drop points and he doesn't score?

That would damage his confidence even more.

We need more goals. I just feel that it could be really horrible next year if we don't buy a top right winger and a striker. Esp with Jose at Man Utd.

If the crowd get on the team's back again, it could be another vile season.

It's more the other way around anyway. Your striker is *supposed* to be the scapegoat, that's his job. Thing is, you hope he scores enough to avoid that particular slur or jibe.

Either he is good enough for what you think you need or he isn't. Spending alot of money on one doesn't guarantee anything, naturally, but it *does* mean the chap has absolutely no place to hide; if he's the real deal, the high pricetag won't matter to him one bit.

redgunamo
05-30-2016, 03:56 PM
I do see your point and appreciate it - but you are talking to the wrong man. Red will love it. Personally, I don't think you can have enough No 10s :)

I love #10s too. So long as they score 300 goals :shrug:

eastgermanautos
05-30-2016, 04:20 PM
Need, in any case, a real goal-scoring number 10. when sanchez went off the boil we were seriously lacking. A lampard type who will reliably give you 20 goals.

PSRB
05-31-2016, 08:54 AM
we drop points and he doesn't score?

That would damage his confidence even more.

We need more goals. I just feel that it could be really horrible next year if we don't buy a top right winger and a striker. Esp with Jose at Man Utd.

If the crowd get on the team's back again, it could be another vile season.

Bless him, apparently scored a blinder last night and then misses a 1 on 1.....very Olivier.

The 3 strikers I'd go for are Benzema, Higuain or Lukaku......I know I've said before that I'm not sure about Lukaku but I certainly think he has potential and in a better side that's in CL then he'll only improve

I did like the lad that came on for Atletico, Carrasco

Fast Eddie
05-31-2016, 08:57 AM
Giroud hit a nice goal last night for France, but he ain't the be all and end all, time to put to use that wage salary Arsene and scouts but not on 7 goal Morata :yikes: