Shall I?

[Monty91]

http://www.theguardian.com/money/2016/apr/05/new-parents-hav e-you-taken-shared-parental-leave (http://www.theguardian.com/money/2016/apr/05/new-parents-have-you-taken-shared-parental-leave)

[redgunamo]

So to speak..

[IUFG]

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

[Monty91]

Anyway, there’s not much in it nowadays as I'm absolutely rinsing the freelancing :cloud9:

[Ashberto]

Fact.

[Classic Jorge]

Luckily enough male privilege, and her working in the education system, has remasculated me. :hehe:

[Monty91]

as most of them are in fairly menial jobs, so if their partner is earning less, it's assumed they must be on really **** money (which is, of course, worthy of ridicule).

[IUFG]

you'll be begging to go back to work after a week ;-)

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

I mean, if my was earning 7.50 an hour flipping burgers, and I was making less than that, I'd feel a little sheepish about my career progression.

On the other hand, were Mrs Sir Charlie making 7 figures, I'd be as pleased and as proud as punch and, under such circumstances, would very probably be making nothing whatsoever, for I would be sat on my fat arse enjoyig the fruits of her labours. Amen.

[Monty91]

I did a month's shared parental leave first time round and it was not for me, Clive.

[Ashberto]

Eh?

[Monty91]

I doubt many of us have director level partners/wives

[IUFG]

;-)

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

My comment was simply that it was commonly known on here that you are the lesser earning of your coupling.

I think my Mrs may earn more than me on a pro-rata basis.

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

I understand that's the modern way of things?

What about the transes? Should they earn the same as women?

[IUFG]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

No offence.

[IUFG]

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

[Ashberto]

in which one might have a respectable career.

[IUFG]

[redgunamo]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

[IUFG]

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/feb/12/gender-pay-ga p-reporting-big-firms-start-2018 (http://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/feb/12/gender-pay-gap-reporting-big-firms-start-2018)

[Monty91]

routinely hold "respectable" jobs.

And Awimb doesn't often feel like a middle class bubble, though maybe I'm a poor judge of (online) character.

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

is as important as the next. The lady who brings me my coffee, for example, frees my mind from worrying about the transportation of liquid caffeine and allows me to get on with making money; in this way she is as important to the operation as I?

wd coffee-bringing chick.

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

My version does not work on Fridays and uses this day to do all the housework such as ironing, hoovering and whatever else – leaving me free to do more or less f**k all on the weekend.

Quite often I will return home on Friday evening after a hard day in the office and she has beers in the fridge for me.

Get. f**king. In.

[Ashberto]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

[Monty91]

for 3 days. That’s a nice balance that allows us to keep earning the big bucks without feeling like someone else is bringing up our kid.

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

Not raise them surely.

[IUFG]

though the housework things doesn't get done in mine.

She's probably doing yours. You *******.

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

[Ashberto]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

Obviously her voluntering for these additional , ahem, duties is remembered at christmas time, so everyone's a winner. My pipes are blown through every day, and she gets a Bernard Matthews frozen turkey crown.

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

It's like something from Mills & Boon.

[Billy Goat Sverige]

me to take an extra 30 days :****er:

[redgunamo]

Of course, there's going to be a certain amount of that sort of thing but it must not be overdone.

Ultimately, I must be responsible for them.

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

[Ashberto]

look after them full time while the wife goes out to work. You can then insist that she buys you cars, nice clothes and jewellry too. :-)

[redgunamo]

to such an establishment, if he's not been raised properly in the first place.

[redgunamo]

interested in raising families. Unless the price is right.

This is why we invented women's lib.

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

[redgunamo]

So, basically, the wife and I are in the iron & steel business; she does the ironing, I do the stealing

:cooper:

[redgunamo]

[redgunamo]

pushing pencils about in a white collar insurance company cubicle *or* earning minimum wages scanning TV dinners at a supermarket checkout has neither the inclination nor the time to raise a decent-sized family (just as a similarly occupied man wouldn't) and all that honest breeding and raising goes out the window.

And if good people don't have enough children, then only the bad ones do and you end up having to get hordes of undesirable, redgunamo-types in to make up the shortfall.

You can see for yourself right now what a rubbish idea *that* is.

[Brentwood]

Most of my UK friends had 1 or 2 weeks leave when their baby was born, then went back to work, leaving all of the childcare duties to their wives.

My Norwegian friends and I all had to take 14 weeks leave at least within the first 2 years (or you lose it)

My UK friends don't seem to be able to perform the most basic of tasks alone when they are with their kids. They can't change them , get them bathed, dressed, make their lunch, without showing some really high levels of stress, which the kids pick up on. I don't find this to be the slightest problem, because I got used to doing it alone. As a result, my friends' wives cannot do anything fun, because they have to be there all the time as their kids have built up a strong dependency on them

I used to think the idea of shared parental leave was a nonsense, because kids need the mothers (of course they do when they are in the newborn stage), but being given the opportunity to try it myself has really helped me have a closer relationship with my daughter

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

Are you sure you're in the right place?