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Pat Vegas
03-15-2016, 11:14 AM
Play like a pile of ****.

If I am not mistaken we have made some rather large transfers in the past few years.

The team is being badly managed that's why it's annoying as they are capable of much more. It's like they've replaced with dopplegangers

redgunamo
03-15-2016, 11:24 AM
I think the team is actually very well managed; it's just that it's a poor* team the manager has put together.


*Not so good as we'd like.

Rich
03-15-2016, 11:32 AM
See City's recent form.

Ashberto
03-15-2016, 11:34 AM
Leicester, Spurs, West Ham and Southampton top four?

redgunamo
03-15-2016, 11:34 AM
And if this discussion isn't about winning the league, then what is it about.

Pokster
03-15-2016, 11:43 AM
we were top of the table when we started our downward spiral it is more obvious than some others..... Man U have been fairly average all season rather than having a dodgy spell.

I still think we will finish outside the top 4

:wave: :wave: AW

Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler
03-15-2016, 11:48 AM
City who have, despite huge success, have decided to upgrade their manager from an affable engineer to the shiniest there is.

This is generally how football rolls now at the very top level which is where we strive to be.

redgunamo
03-15-2016, 11:49 AM

Billy Goat Sverige
03-15-2016, 11:55 AM

Rich
03-15-2016, 12:06 PM
pick up form at some point as we always inevitably do after a bad run.

Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler
03-15-2016, 12:25 PM
The coupling of the complete collapse of the other media styled big 4, our main rivals for the League title, and our new found belief and winning mentality borne from successive cup wins, triumphs which we were lead to believe showed once and for all the turning of a corner in terms of mentality, the stepping stones to real success.

It was as if the big clubs decided to take a year off for the old man, stood back and said here you go mate, one more before retirement.

However nobody worked the theory as far as the group of players who have demonstrated they are not good enough or that they are not managed in a way which produces the best results from their many combined talents.

Rich
03-15-2016, 12:43 PM
of City and Chelsea. United can and are in the process of doing this. That leaves us with the fourth most resources in the league, unless we choose to develop youngsters that become superstars.

While you have a point in that the competition has been lax this season, I don't think we can say that it's been a failure if we come 3rd. In fact, City/Chelsea/United fans should be angrier than ours because they have underachieved by a greater amount.

I am not against change, I'm merely suggesting that we may find ourselves in a situation where we have to forsake Champions League football for a few years as it has been shown than a change of a manager that has been there for a long time isn't always a simple transition.

Anyway, Wenger will go if he wants. If he wants to stay then he will. Whether you like it or not, that's how it is.

Luis Anaconda
03-15-2016, 12:51 PM
Oh...

Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler
03-15-2016, 12:54 PM
What we don’t have is possibly the manager who will manage the overall project of net spend, or possibly a board who will not sanction that level of spend.

I add the latter for balance as I appreciate a lot of people see Kroenke / Gazidis as being the root of whatever our issues are .

For the record I do expect him to be in charge in August and with one season left on his current deal I can understand why he would be.

Rich
03-15-2016, 01:22 PM
spending isn't always the answer as I'm sure you can understand.

My argument is that at the moment we have a manager who, at the end of the season, delivers results that meet or slightly exceed our expectations (our par position is 4th, given the resources available). Remove him and how likely are we to find a manager that exceeds them consistently?

Ashberto
03-15-2016, 01:32 PM
Unless there is a bizzare U-turn of form, of course, and we manage to sneak 4th or 3rd.

Rich
03-15-2016, 01:34 PM

Jake
03-15-2016, 01:38 PM

Rich
03-15-2016, 01:44 PM
that if we finish 3rd or higher we have achieved more than we arguably should have, given the resources our rivals can swamp us with.

redgunamo
03-15-2016, 01:50 PM
division this season each cost less than my daughter's mobile telephone bill.

Incidentally, one of these players has two dogs, Brady and Wilson. Can you guess which one :-|

Pokster
03-15-2016, 01:52 PM
This season is an abject failure, our points per game, our goalscoring record and the constant falling apart at some stage during the season are not due to our resources. It is due to a manager who refuses to spend the money we do have available, and also went down the route of overpaying bang average players which made them unsellable (Denilson, Almunia and NB to name but 3).

He has should go at the end of the season (probably won't) and let us try a different approach

Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler
03-15-2016, 01:54 PM
There was money to spend last summer yet AW saw fit to only sign one player, a magnificent signing to be fair but a slightly fortuitous one that played into our hands.

I think there is a logical argument for player strengthening right down the middle of the team – defence, midfield, striker. Now I don’t mean bostonbrians, I mean top players to come in and play and at the same time “kill” the career of certain others, to use the phrase we all love to reference.

Mis-management essentially.

Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler
03-15-2016, 01:59 PM

Ashberto
03-15-2016, 02:18 PM
And so it is. Though one of his followers thinks they are named after Septic Footballers :-|



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Neil Young ‏@Neil_Young76 24 Oct 2014

@hkane28 are they named after Tom Brady and Russell Wilson??