For the first time since I got them I'm seriously contemplating giving up my season tickets.

[Mo Britain less Europe]

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

Assuming you can afford them with no massive hardship.

Surely the whole point of football support and subsequent attendance is just that, support. You can’t turn this off simply because a run of results is poor.

[Luis Anaconda]

[IUFG]

but where else can you sit quietly and gently seethe on a Saturday afternoon?

[Mo Britain less Europe]

Kronke's ownership has bestowed on us. I have no hardship in keeping the tickets and not using them if it comes to that. But I'm not sure I want to be another contributor to the wealth fund of a guy who gives not a **** about Arsenal.

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/stan-kroenke-i-didn t-buy-arsenal-stake-to-win-trophies-a3202046.html (http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/stan-kroenke-i-didnt-buy-arsenal-stake-to-win-trophies-a3202046.html)

[Red N White Army]

[Ashberto]

She said it would take her a week to get over it. By contrast when I left the ground yesterday I just felt a bit numb, as if there was no pain left, and losing felt completely normal.

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

I even answered the phone when it rang on Saturday evening as I knew it would be her Ma or Da. You have to enjoy these moments.

[Luis Anaconda]

considering the shellacking we are going to get on Wednesday.


I must say I like the word "shellacking"

[Paul Vaessen's moment of glory]

its matchday employees, while some greedy pigs feast on millions upstairs. i do greatly miss away games though, they were always the best. Of course I would support the team in any league, as you say, I first started going when we were rather **** anyway, though being 10th in the old 1st Division certainly isn't a disaster. (Actually my first full season was 81/82 when we were in the top 5 I think, so I didn't start being a fan amidst misery and ravage).

[Luis Anaconda]

because George North might not have been in touch near the end. Strangely failed to mention the lack of card for the bloke trying to claw Dan Cole's face off

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

Very easy to blame and to point fingers at yet none of us really know the involvement of said people. We have no evidence of meddling, no evidence of withholding funds, no evidence of putting obstacles in the way of those who do run the day to day football.

Management of the football club is a different matter and in this case we do know where the buck stops, if a can use an American phrase to tie in with the Kroenke reference.

We may yet turn things around though I am less sure than normal.

[Rich]

to London quite often.

What sort of f**king helicopter does this bloke have?!

[Mo Britain less Europe]

exploiter runs the show.

[Luis Anaconda]

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

However I don’t confuse ownership as a business man with support as a supporter.

His business is doing very well. There probably is an argument that further player investment is or was needed however we need to understand the fundamental reason why this did not happen.

a) Did Kroenke / The Board deny funds to Wenger when he wanted to sign players A, B and C.
b) Did Wenger decide that purchasing players A, B and C was not necessary and never made moves instead placing his faith and trust in players Giroud, Walcott and …… etc.

We were 7 points clear in January, the collapse since then is not linked to Stanley Kroenke.

Nobody was complaining about him then.

[2 Strikers?]

instances he mentions (Utd and MJordan) is that both brands were hyper-extended on the back and a foundation of on pitch/court success. nothing less will do, sponsors, investors and new fans follow winners. Period.

[Mo Britain less Europe]

[Mo Britain less Europe]

don't seem to be aware of Wolves, Forest, Wednesday, Huddersfield or the Old bleeding Carthusians.

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

You are of course 100$ entitled to do so.

I tend not to look too much beyond the management and playing side of a football club in the absence of very obvious meddling by owners/board.

I have absolutely no evidence of said meddling.

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

Are you a yankee 2?

[Mo Britain less Europe]

"fees", no interest in looking at own or third party investment in club.

[redgunamo]

avoid blaming Wenger.

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

He is a multi-millionaire business man who lives in America, I would imagine on this basis he is a busy man with many interests. There are season-ticket holding Arsenal supporters who live in London who do not attend games.

In terms of the ambition accusation again (to me) it is totally unfounded. Wenger was backed on Ozil, backed on Sanchez and backed on many others who cost much less.

We went through the entire summer of 2015 and did not buy one outfield player to add to the squad, only the keeper, a rather fortuitous signing as it goes. Are you accusing Kroenke as being complicit in this?

I’m afraid that comes down to one person for me (while accepting that transfers are probably not just as easy and straight forward to complete as you or I may think).

[2 Strikers?]

just using his vernacular

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

Good man.

Carry on.

[Mo Britain less Europe]

[Mo Britain less Europe]

definitely Kronke's fault for not holding him to account.