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Monty91
03-03-2016, 10:13 AM
me started being very aggressive towards a chap who was minding his own business. The bloke shat himself and jumped off the train, at which point I considered doing the same as I didn’t fancy getting stuck in an enclosed tube train with an aggressive mental who may have a weapon and is presumably in the throes of some kind of psychotic episode.

Doors eventually close and we move off. About a minute later, the bloke starts on the chap next to me, who, being a feisty Irish sort, immediately fronted him out. Because of my position, I was clearly next in line so started to move down the carriage and jumped off at H&I amid lots of screaming.

You want to intervene, but how are you supposed to reason with an unhinged mental in an enclosed tube train? Is it best to stay out of it unless things escalate?

What would my fellow Awimbers have done in this situation?

Mo Britain less Europe
03-03-2016, 10:15 AM

Monty91
03-03-2016, 10:18 AM
Although by this time I had bravely ran away to the other end of the carriage :jewish:

redgunamo
03-03-2016, 10:18 AM
benders were frequenting gym classes, and befouling the landscape s****ing about the place in your jogging trousers, in preparation for :shrug:

Classic Jorge
03-03-2016, 10:18 AM
I think you handled it in a textbook fashion, as befits an experienced Londoner.

You obviously couldve done without wetting yourself but as you didnt immediately drop to the ground and offer to suck his dick in exchange for any small degree of mercy I think you handled the situation rather well.

Paul Vaessen's moment of glory
03-03-2016, 10:19 AM
a bit of a prat doing that. I think you did the right thing though - no point in unecessary altercations with psychos. If he was bothering an old lady or someone defenceless in front of you though, the right thing would have been to stay there and try to help. As you describe it, you did what most people would do. Did you - inmid-flight - wish cancer upon him at least?

Berni
03-03-2016, 10:20 AM

In Arsene we rust
03-03-2016, 10:21 AM
He must have been suicidal last night the poor thing :hehe:

Jake
03-03-2016, 10:21 AM
My usual move is to say f**k off and then walk off :smoothexit:

Berni
03-03-2016, 10:23 AM
Discretion is very much the better part of valour with the deranged and ****eing it is more socially acceptable than it might be in other circs.

Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler
03-03-2016, 10:23 AM
Always best to get your retaliation in before the event.

Self defence etc.

Sir Charlie of Nicholas
03-03-2016, 10:23 AM
What really disturbs me is your utter lack of shame in admitting to such cowardice.

In my day a chap would have done the decent thing and retired to his study with a revolver rather than be unmasked as a coward.

What has happened to this filthy world, that the likes of you roam shamelessly free? :-(

Monty91
03-03-2016, 10:24 AM
situation.

If he wants to fight you, the ability to throw a good punch, or restrain them with some fancy martial arts move, is what's going to help you, not strength.

IUFG
03-03-2016, 10:27 AM

redgunamo
03-03-2016, 10:29 AM

Monty91
03-03-2016, 10:30 AM
It's a stark reminder of what genuine mental illness looks like.

Berni
03-03-2016, 10:31 AM
doubtless call it.

Monty91
03-03-2016, 10:32 AM
in the face of aggression. That's about character.

Classic Jorge
03-03-2016, 10:32 AM

Sir Charlie of Nicholas
03-03-2016, 10:33 AM
All these reasons are simply excuses.

Are you a little bitch as well, b? Don't answer me. Answer yourself.

redgunamo
03-03-2016, 10:36 AM
Some sort of Clarke Kent Fantasy Delusion Syndrome seems to be at work.

Not enough rough play, climbing trees and fighting and whatnot in your formative years, I've always thought it must be.

Berni
03-03-2016, 10:37 AM
and for me and mine to remain unscathed? Absof**kinglootly not.

I have no wish to end up the subject of a 'Paranoid schizophrenic decapitates commuter and wears his head as a hat for 5 stops'-type story just to satisfy your concepts of masculinity thank you very much.

Sir Charlie of Nicholas
03-03-2016, 10:40 AM
It is you who must live with yourself. I wish you luck.

redgunamo
03-03-2016, 10:42 AM
Most of the women you know nowadays wouldn't turn their back in that situation.

Monty91
03-03-2016, 10:42 AM
equipped than those around you to deal with it, and are only likely to escalate the situation by intervening, then you do so.

Had the bloke started on me, I would have probably tried to walk away from him. Had he become physically aggressive with me, I’d have probably tried to diffuse it by talking in a calm soothing voice and offering him a biscuit.

But if it became clear he was not backing down, I would have fought him :shrug:

Just because you're someone who would do everything they can to avoid violence does not make you a physical coward.

IUFG
03-03-2016, 10:45 AM
sounds like sex offender behaviour to me :sherlock:

Berni
03-03-2016, 10:45 AM
womenfolk.

My 'responsibility' only kicks in when there is someone smaller, weaker or more female under threat. Until that time, it's every chap for himself.

Monty91
03-03-2016, 10:46 AM
When it’s just a drunk ****, all bets are off, and no-one would object to you sticking the boot in.

But what about when it’s a mental?

Classic Jorge
03-03-2016, 10:46 AM

IUFG
03-03-2016, 10:47 AM

Sir Charlie of Nicholas
03-03-2016, 10:47 AM

Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler
03-03-2016, 10:48 AM
However in any of these scenarios a line is crossed where your own health and wellbeing is at risk, or perhaps others with you. If you personally believe the line has been crossed then you need to act and in a very enclosed situation like a tube making a swift exit may not be an option.

It’s not nice but if the bloke is in your face giving you dogs then what is your option.

How did the fella react to the feisty, and let’s be honest quite possibly drunk, son of Ireland?

redgunamo
03-03-2016, 10:49 AM

Berni
03-03-2016, 10:54 AM

Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler
03-03-2016, 11:07 AM

redgunamo
03-03-2016, 11:08 AM

Classic Jorge
03-03-2016, 11:09 AM