A fair effort, all things considered but it's obvious we're incapable of doing much better than last

[7evens]

16 with this ensemble and by implication, this manager.
What bothers me is that I'm not sure we're barely scraping in to the second tier of the top European clubs either.
If we're having to throw on Flamini, and Per and Giroud are considered to be the best in their positions at the club, I'd suggest we've still got some distance to catch up to the likes of Juve, Inter and a few others.

['Neg]

Championship side putting a valiant, but in the end futile, effort against a far superior team, 1.5 leagues higher up.

And it happens all the time. And not just to us. I think that is strange.

[Rich]

little more surmountable, I'm sure you'd agree.

[Billy Goat Sverige]

Anyway, still a very good chance to do the double so not all bad.

['Neg]

and Iniesta and Xavi and the 31-year old Mascherano.

[Rich]

league runners up.

[Billy Goat Sverige]

[7evens]

Plenty of ex players, now at other clubs who would have probably spilled something by now.
They are a supreme set of players and a defeat was pretty much a racing certainty.
Interesting that Juve managed to claw back a two goal deficit to our other nemesis.
If we manage to get a result on Sunday, something I'm not looking at with any great sense of confidence, it'll go a long way to restoring the belief in the players.

[7evens]

Honestly...

[7evens]

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02381/rf_gety_2381958k.jpg

[redgunamo]

Southampton managed to put four past us :shrug:

[Billy Goat Sverige]

any of their first/second choice full backs, De Gea might not make it, Rooney and Schweingsteiger are out, Fellaini is out, Lingaard is out, Jones and Rojo are out. They've got a lot of injuries, basically.

[71 Guns - channeling the spirit of Mr Hat]

We'll lose.

[Pokster]

and we finish second in the league to Spurs

[7evens]

Not in a mathematical sense but a defeat would make us look serious chokers..

[Billy Goat Sverige]

[redgunamo]

unwarrantedly propitious circumstances and conditions. It happens from time to time in many sports.

[Classic Jorge]

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/WZ3zZ-aWi6U/hqdefault.jpg

[71 Guns - channeling the spirit of Mr Hat]

[Classic Jorge]

[Classic Jorge]

A proper musical education imo

[Classic Jorge]

http://beaut.ie/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/bag-of-chips.jpg

[7evens]

http://images.sportinglife.com/12/11/800x600/PhilTaylorGrandSlamofDarts_2861608.jpg

[redgunamo]

Beating Barcelona at that there soccerball malarky, not so much.

['Neg]

underestimate the criminal elements floating around the football world. No-one ever spoke up in cycling, until some guys got busted by the justice system and needed to save their arses.

Arsene is one of the few who say something publically, but it is quite clear he nose much more than what he can say.

[Rich]

[redgunamo]

to say, you say it to the FBI, not L'Equipe.

[Berni]

It's got Jewish caricatures, cockernees, strumpets, violent thuggery and all sorts - and some great tunes.

It's essentially what Charles Dickens should have written if he hadn't been so boring.

[Classic Jorge]

No, I'm afraid it's Blues Brothers for me, and at a push Hairspray or Little Shop of Horrors.

Bloody Oliver, Disney Cockneys and Racialists, do me a favour

[eastgermanautos]

the league is a basic standard. after it, we can afford the luxury and swagger of the CL.

[redgunamo]