That Kids Company doc last night was rather interesting

[Classic Jorge]

It turns out that she genuinely is as mad as a hedgeful of coleslaw and it wasnt an act.

Best line was "I didnt think the media would focus on the swimming pool, anyway it's not a luxury one!"

[IUFG]

[7evens]

to see she lived in the land of la la.

Was she quite sweet but dotty or a scheming and plotting old harridan ?

[Classic Jorge]

I was amazed how genuinely unconnected with the real world she seemed though, I felt very, very sorry for that poor press flunkie but then again he was probably minting it, if her driver was anything to go by.

[Monty91]

The World War Three enactment documentary was decent.

[Classic Jorge]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/fastshow/wallpaper/images/colin_640.jpg

[Herbette Chapman - aged 15]

[redgunamo]

good intentions. Not if we're paying attention.

People are always far more prudent and responsible with their own money :nod:

[7evens]

that bleeds the life away from you.
Ha a mate who did quite well chauffeuring ( none of that kids puking in the back stuff mind ) mainly airport runs and horse racing. No stress, worked when he wanted, smiled at all the executive anxiety. Paid sod all tax.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-j4E9oDzWbQQ/TojWEPdVXSI/AAAAAAAAErk/5FCl7G2mp5I/s1600/3%2BL.jpg

[Herbette Chapman - aged 15]

[Berni]

a cretin.

Bit disappointed by how many voted not to press the button. Surely our obligations to our allies mean we absolutely must press the button in the event of a nuclear exchange? To do otherwise would be wildly irresponsible.

[Berni]

And the swimming pool, obvs.

[Classic Jorge]

[Berni]

comes. To cop out because you want to die with your precious bloody conscience clear is just pathetic moral cowardice.

[Classic Jorge]

The massive failing wasnt on her part, in many ways she was a wildly successful front man for the charity and raised many multiples of what anybody would have reasonably expected. The real failing was in the governance, both corporate and financial.

Well that and the fact that someone inside government clearly wanted her defenestrated and made sure it happened using the only surefire smart bomb possible, sexual abuse allegations.

Eeerily like that Julian Bureau de Change bloke, really

[Classic Jorge]

Come on, you grew up in the 70s and 80s just like I did, nobody needs this pathetic mexican stand off. The only people it helps are the armies and the armorers.

[Classic Jorge]

********FREE SCHOOL FEES FOR THE KIDS LOOOOOOLLLLLL*********

[redgunamo]

it is worth billions in industry and employment.

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

of communist dictatorship?

Hmm?

[Classic Jorge]

[redgunamo]

it is worth billions in industry and employment.

[Berni]

Even if we can't save ourselves, by launching our missiles, we may be saving some of our allies from the same fate. In those circumstances, launching is the only honourable and ethical thing to do.

[Berni]

Mind you, it doesn't hurt that he looks like an escapee from the pages of Der Sturmer.

[Classic Jorge]

Obviously with a large soupscon of the US oustspending and arming themselves with more than 20 times the nuclear arsenal of the russians, bankrupting them to try and keep up.

Or perhaps it was David Hasselhoff

[Classic Jorge]

And do we really, honestly, have a moral obligation to kill millions in a futile gesture?

I'm really struggling with the morality of this.

[Berni]

purpose as well.

[redgunamo]

taking all our reaper money away and giving it to drug-addled single mothers or buying kidney machines with it instead.

[Classic Jorge]

That man makes me want to learn bayonetting so I could tie him to a fence and practice on him.

Big long streak of Walter the Softy looking c**t dribble.

[Berni]

We make alliances. We give our word to offer certain protections and in return we accept certain protections. That is honourable. To welch on that deal is dishonourable.

And the whole point is that it isn't a futile gesture to launch our missiles against key military sites because, by doing so, we could save millions of lives in allied countries by killing our and their enemies.

[redgunamo]

Have you been reading PJ O'Rourke again?

[Classic Jorge]

...we're basically f**ked anyway.

But just returning to this humanity business again, is there really any honour in firing a missile that you know will, at best, kill hundreds of thousands of people?

I'd say you're a murderer, a mass murderer, whatever the situation and pretty much by whatever moral code you are scum, the lowest of the low.

[Classic Jorge]

I always find he was a bit to fond of the busted hollywood flush with early onset dementia. He almost totally overlooked the part of the chap with the splodge on his head.

[Mo Britain less Europe]

[Berni]

Real moral courage is to weigh the numbers and behave rationally, not to look at individuals and let your emotions about individuals govern you.

So by all means be compassionate, but be compassionate large-scale, not small-scale.

Once the balloon goes up, it's sauve qui peut and if you can't save yourselves, your moral obligation is to do what you can to save your allies. It may not work, but you have to try.

[Berni]

had a choice. The West (by which I primarily mean the US) had upped the rhetoric, upped the action, upped the military spending and cut the grain supplies. Russia was f**ked because the west had stopped pussyfooting around and gone on the offensive. To his credit, Gorbachev could see that and acted accordingly, but the actions of the US brought it about and as a result freed millions from Soviet bondage.

wd the arms race imo.

[Classic Jorge]

I'm more concerned with the survival, however unlikely, of the whole human race. What if your missile was the one to wipe out the last humans on earth? How is that compassion?

Surely the only sensible thing to do is realise the whole thing is a fools errand. Of course, Oppenheimer had it right when he apologised for the horror which he had unleashed on the world.

From my point of view, the whole idea of not looking beyond sides and realising that death on any scale, let alone this vast one, is wrong and that without these most grim of reapers the world would be an immensely better place.

[Classic Jorge]

It's just great that we're all in the same chains now, that's what really matters.

[Berni]

If your weapon wiped out the last life on earth, it would be because the enemy had launched even more, so they deserve retribution for that, if nothing else.

Oppenheimer was a commie fag. Dropping the A-bomb on Japan was necessary and saved hundreds of thousands of lives. Not to use it would have been immoral.

[Classic Jorge]

[Berni]

Russians were running the place.

[Berni]

reprehensible about that.

[Classic Jorge]

[Berni]

[Mo Britain less Europe]

War.